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Q: How do you recognize a Mac Book user at a distance?
A: One bag for the computer, one bag with all the adapters.
 
What about the "New" 17 laptops. (Apple has them listed as new as well.)
The ones that apparently have the old FAULTY Nvidia card in it.

This is something Im surprised hasnt come to the surface on the mains news/tech sites. Apple just admitted to the problem when everyone knew about it for months - and now they label it new and are trying to sell it.

Funny heh? ;)

Peace

dAlen

And what about it?

The GPUs that were faulty were manufactured from mid 2007 to october 2008 - not all of them, only a small portion. Many sources state that the issue is worked out by now.

I'm sure Apple has a good reason not to update the body of 17" just yet and you should be thankful that they added a load of nice stuff to it for now (standard HD display, larger HD and 4 GB RAM) that has been rather costly before this update. I don't see a reason why they shouldn't call it new.

And besides, its the only Apple laptop that you can order with a matte display if you really want one. And it has your FW400 port too.
 
which reminds me, i've been getting grounded with our Aluminum iMac recently, every time i touch the edges.

then i went to a café where you could use iMacs to surf, the aluminum keyboards stunned me too.

i wonder how that could be remedied.
 
Every release you've people complaining about stuff. Most like the looks of the new Macbooks, others prefer the original look, but that's really a personal matter.

Currently thinking of purchasing the 2.0 Macbook. In the Netherlands it costs Eur 1199,- for the 2.0 and 1499,- for the 2.4. With multiple student discounts I can get the 2.0 for EUR 1103,- or the 2.4 for EUR 1379,21.

I don't think it would be a wise choice to pay almost 300 EUR more for backlid, a better CPU and 90GB more hard disk space.

How easy is it for someone without much knowledge about the technical side of computers to upgrade a hard disk yourself? Im thinking of buying a 320GB Western 7200RPM hard disk for EUR 80 to upgrade the 5200 160GB.
 
How did they kill the MacBook Pro? Seriously. They gave it a better processor, a better GPU, a better design and still kept the prices the same. Like the glossy display or not, the MacBook Pro of today is still better than the one of yesterday.

That was IMO btw.. For me, the cons of the new MBP overweights the pros. I think the "old" one is better than the new.

I also prefer the spongy old keyboard. I have both (flat-buttons external), and after a lot of typing, the keys on the laptop is easier on the fingers. Feels like I write faster on the old keyboard also, but that might be an illusion.
 
I love the new Macbooks, but the one thing I don't understand is why the backlit keyboard is only available for the more expensive model.

The website says it's been a well-received addition to the Air and Pro in the past, and yet they don't want to roll it out across their entire range? I wouldn't mind as much if they gave it as an online upgrade option (like improving RAM or hard drive), but they don't even cater for that! It means your only option if you want that feature is to pay much more for that, slightly more processing power, and extra hard drive a regular Macbook user probably doesn't even need.

And why is their minimum hard drive space now 120GB? I have 80 and that is more than enough for a "normal" consumer I would have thought - it could save people a lot if they did a lower grade option. These new Macbooks just seem like they're for Macbook users who want to be a little more pro-y without getting a full-blown pro model.
 
Way too expensive!!! No FireWire=no video editing, get real on that!! Twice the price than a pc for the same hardware!!!, And don´t even has an apple remote control as used to have! LOL, overall is cute but it stinks!
 
I seriously sometimes don't understand how Apple works. Does the functionality of a backlit keyboard require that much additional space that it couldn't fit into a MacBook, or is it purely a "professional" feature?

They're aaaall about gouging money from the consumer. Some revisions are worse than others. :rolleyes:
 
I think I'm the only person here who really likes the new MacBook and MacBook Pro.

I love them. I have the current as of yesterday MacBook Pro and have loved it but the new ones look amazing. However, I understand why some people are upset about the FireWire, Matte, Backlit Keyboard, etc catches, and at the same time I understand from a business point of view why Apple left those things out.

I will be ordering the mid-level MacBook Pro very soon and selling this one I'm on now.

A few questions:

1) Did the Air and 17" MacBook Pro keep the same old track pads with buttons?
2) Why is the Apple online store still down??? :confused:
3) Can one run Motion on the MacBook now?
4) Is the new 24" Cinema Display the only one available now?
 
Great design and I really need a laptop to go with my Mac Pro when I'm out and about. The white MacBook will not be good enough for when Snow Leopard comes out. It's the no firewire that kills the sale for me.

Anyway most new machines when introduced tend to have problems. I have now decided NO new MacBook. I can wait another 6 months or a year for the speed bump, firewire and teething issues to be sorted. A MacBook pro would be totat overkill for me and a waste of money.

Respect to all those who buy a MacBook now, happy testing :D:p
 
thanks man. ;)


You're welcome. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I used Shazam on the iPhone to detect what tune it was while playing the manufacturing video on the MacBook. It sounded familiar since I'd seen the movie The Devil Wears Prada (which my significant other dragged me off to see) so I knew it was U2, but couldn't think of the name. Probably some things are better left unsaid :) Yeah, I'm a dork :cool: :p
 
You're welcome. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I used Shazam on the iPhone to detect what tune it was while playing the manufacturing video on the MacBook. It sounded familiar since I'd seen the movie The Devil Wears Prada (which my significant other dragged me off to see) so I knew it was U2, but couldn't think of the name. Probably some things are better left unsaid :) Yeah, I'm a dork :cool: :p
For the record... "Life in Techicolor" by Coldplay is the first song played at the beginning of the video. The U2 song is "City of Blinding Lights." I think those are the only two songs used, actually. There is some background music, but I believe it was specifically for the video.
 
So are we completely sure about the no backlit keys on the low end aluminium macbook?
(we say aluminium in Dutch as well ;))
I guess the strange thing is that the US shop sells it with backlit and the nl (and uk) shop sells it without...
 
Great design and I really need a laptop to go with my Mac Pro when I'm out and about. The white MacBook will not be good enough for when Snow Leopard comes out. It's the no firewire that kills the sale for me.

Anyway most new machines when introduced tend to have problems. I have now decided NO new MacBook. I can wait another 6 months or a year for the speed bump, firewire and teething issues to be sorted. A MacBook pro would be totat overkill for me and a waste of money.

Respect to all those who buy a MacBook now, happy testing :D:p
You know, it just occured to me that like Leopard, Snow Leopard also will not require a FireWire port, whereas Tiger did. This means that Tiger support is likely officially ending soon.
 
I'm going to be on the market for buying a new laptop in January, and I've been leaning for a mac (specifically a high-spec'd non-pro) since summer, when I made the decision to look for another computer. (I'm studying abroad in Japan right now and probably won't chance customs, though I'd like a visual kana keyboard) I knew there'd be a new macbook coming, so I decided to just wait on a new computer 'till winter. So, this announcement was Apple's bid, with my other major option being looking at a Latitude D/E. (current computer is a D610, never had a problem that support wouldn't fix next-day)

My opinion here is simple: it's so different, I can't make a decision until I actually get on one and test it myself. My "optimal" choices between the two companies are comparable in price, but I need to actually use this new macbook and understand just how it's different. I need to see if the buttons work well, how the trackpad works with Parallels/Fusion/Boot Camp, just how the graphics changes would affect the level I use programs like Photoshop.

In short, I like the changes, but many of the changes bring additions and changes that are beyond my experience with laptops, and until I can actually find a model to work on myself, I can't say definitively whether I'd get one.
 
How easy is it for someone without much knowledge about the technical side of computers to upgrade a hard disk yourself? Im thinking of buying a 320GB Western 7200RPM hard disk for EUR 80 to upgrade the 5200 160GB.

It looks easy—the panel opens at the slide of a switch. You take the battery out by pulling a tab, then use a Phillips screwdriver to unscrew one screw to release the hard drive. Unplug the connector cable, and you're set.

Pics and source here.
 
Speaking of which, for the one with the backlit keyboard, it's $1599 in America and $2009 in the UK. Including all possible taxes... Apple is totally shafting us. More than ever. Stuff them.

Strange enough, I've never seen anything here in Britain being sold for US dollars. What does your employer pay you, dollars or British pounds? Did you complain that your salary in dollars was reduced by ten percent?

And how is _Apple_ shafting you by adding 17.5 percent taxes in Britain? Don't complain to Apple, complain to Gordon Brown. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret: Americans don't actually get these MacBooks for $1599 either. They have to pay sales tax, which varies from state to state.
 
I'm going to be on the market for buying a new laptop in January, and I've been leaning for a mac (specifically a high-spec'd non-pro) since summer, when I made the decision to look for another computer. (I'm studying abroad in Japan right now and probably won't chance customs, though I'd like a visual kana keyboard) I knew there'd be a new macbook coming, so I decided to just wait on a new computer 'till winter. So, this announcement was Apple's bid, with my other major option being looking at a Latitude D/E. (current computer is a D610, never had a problem that support wouldn't fix next-day)

My opinion here is simple: it's so different, I can't make a decision until I actually get on one and test it myself. My "optimal" choices between the two companies are comparable in price, but I need to actually use this new macbook and understand just how it's different. I need to see if the buttons work well, how the trackpad works with Parallels/Fusion/Boot Camp, just how the graphics changes would affect the level I use programs like Photoshop.

In short, I like the changes, but many of the changes bring additions and changes that are beyond my experience with laptops, and until I can actually find a model to work on myself, I can't say definitively whether I'd get one.
I'm sure most of the Apple stores in your area already have the MacBook and MacBook Pro on demo. I'm not too optomistic about full trackpad support in Boot Camp, however. Apple never did fix the trackpad clicking in Boot Camp, and I feel that it's intentionally broken to "punish" users for using Windows on a Mac.
 
Strange enough, I've never seen anything here in Britain being sold for US dollars. What does your employer pay you, dollars or British pounds? Did you complain that your salary in dollars was reduced by ten percent?

And how is _Apple_ shafting you by adding 17.5 percent taxes in Britain? Don't complain to Apple, complain to Gordon Brown. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret: Americans don't actually get these MacBooks for $1599 either. They have to pay sales tax, which varies from state to state.
This is true. I live in California, which has an 8.25% sales tax, among the highest in the nation. The $1,599 MacBook actually costs me about $1,729 or so, as shipping is also factored into the cost.
 
You know, it just occured to me that like Leopard, Snow Leopard also will not require a FireWire port, whereas Tiger did. This means that Tiger support is likely officially ending soon.

When Tiger documentation says "needs Firewire" it doesn't mean it needs Firewire to work; it means that it needs what was then a newish Macintosh, and all the new ones that had Firewire added met the requirements, all the older ones that didn't have Firewire added don't meet the requirements. "Firewire" was just an easy way to identify those Mac meeting the requirements and those that didn't.
 
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