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MacBook Delays? Next Tuesday?
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ImAlwaysRight
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Let's see, unreliable TS missed yet another MacBook release date, so now you make the assumption that they are another 2-3 months away. 🙄MacRumorUser said:
AI has said since last Nov. that they would come April-May. Now they are saying the MacBooks are "due later this month." Stick around, you may learn something. 😱
I've had enough of waiting...I have to get one by mid June!
Come on Apple!,
MacBook 13.3" 1.66GHz/512/80GB/X1400 128MB/Super/iSight+FR
£950 H/E and I'm sold😛...I got a holiday to catch...
Come on Apple!,
MacBook 13.3" 1.66GHz/512/80GB/X1400 128MB/Super/iSight+FR
£950 H/E and I'm sold😛...I got a holiday to catch...
MacBook mockup
Just found this mockup posted on TS's forums:
http://www.filippocorti.com/podcast/page3/files/podcast_24.mov
Nice eh? Not sure, but based on the reflection of the cable it looks like they put a metal bottom on it, like the back of an iPod. I'd prefer all-black myself, but hey, I'd buy this one too.
Except for the lack of any ports on the sides.
Just found this mockup posted on TS's forums:
http://www.filippocorti.com/podcast/page3/files/podcast_24.mov
Nice eh? Not sure, but based on the reflection of the cable it looks like they put a metal bottom on it, like the back of an iPod. I'd prefer all-black myself, but hey, I'd buy this one too.
Except for the lack of any ports on the sides.
cloudblood84
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Multimedia
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Love The Shiny Black Mock Up
Oh I wish that were true. I love that look and would rather have that one than a MBP. 😱 The ports are all on the back which is where they all were when PowerBooks were Titanium. Not unrealistic at all.galton1.3 said:
galton1.3 said:
That is........... fantastic - I want one. Please let the Macbook be something like this!!! And if it isn't, then let Apple hire the guy who made it and put it into production as soon as possible!
mickhyperion
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galton1.3 said:
It's pretty, but looks like it would show every fingerprint and every speck of dust, not to mention scratches... especially on the shiny bottom.
galton1.3 said:
/fumbles for credit card
I'm hoping this is what the rumoured black version looks like. If not, why not!?!?!
Black MacBook
It's beautiful! But I'd stick with white over that any day. Same reason I've never owned a black car. It'll look nice for about 28 seonds. I have a feeling they'll be white with colored panels, like the original clamshells.
It's beautiful! But I'd stick with white over that any day. Same reason I've never owned a black car. It'll look nice for about 28 seonds. I have a feeling they'll be white with colored panels, like the original clamshells.
Wrong kind of publicity.surroundfan said:
I can see Apple launching a red iPod on that day. But launching an entirely new product that needs a launch event and its own publicity about itself? Nah. Essentially, nobody would talk about the "new consumer laptop from Apple with a 13" screen that looks absolutely stunning", they'd instead say "Motorola, the Independent, and Apple all took part in Bono's project, Motorola launching a red SLVR, The Indie going red and being edited by Bono for the occasion, and Apple releasing red versions of its best seeling iPod and a new laptop computer."
If Apple wants to take part in this, and I think they do, they'll not release MacBooks next tuesday, though when they finally do release MacBooks they may include a red model.
MRU
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ImAlwaysRight said:
Dont get me wrong. I'm waiting to order one of these baby's myself. If its true they'll be available in black i'm salavating in anticipation.... I'm praying for May, but wouldn't be too surprised (though dissapointed) if it was July before I got one...
Why??
Well the reason weve been given on the rumor sites it was put back was to build a stock.. But what was stopping Apple announcing them and just saying shipping in two weeks? They did that with the macbookpro's...
That makes me wonder if we will see them in May....
mickhyperion said:
exactly, that's my biggest worry. A macbook with iPod style casing would not be a good idea.
I don't care if they don't ship in May as long as I know-
What they actually are (Macbook/iBook etc)
What the specifications are
How much they cost
When they will ship
all this being stuck in limbo is driving me nuts!
Yes its fantastic when Steve Jobs can end the prosuct announcement with "They are shipping, now!" but in this case the product is so overdue in the eyes of the consumers (As is evident on this site) I wouldn't care if I had to wait a month for shipping.
Consumers and education purchasers need to be advised by Apple of what they can expect, when they can expect it and how much it will set them back per unit!
The waiting is now driving me completely and utterly nuts! (Plus I haven't got much longer before the returns period expires on my iBook G4 and I don't want to get stuck with it or have to take it back and be Mac-Less with a credit note until the new Macbook comes out😉
What they actually are (Macbook/iBook etc)
What the specifications are
How much they cost
When they will ship
all this being stuck in limbo is driving me nuts!
Yes its fantastic when Steve Jobs can end the prosuct announcement with "They are shipping, now!" but in this case the product is so overdue in the eyes of the consumers (As is evident on this site) I wouldn't care if I had to wait a month for shipping.
Consumers and education purchasers need to be advised by Apple of what they can expect, when they can expect it and how much it will set them back per unit!
The waiting is now driving me completely and utterly nuts! (Plus I haven't got much longer before the returns period expires on my iBook G4 and I don't want to get stuck with it or have to take it back and be Mac-Less with a credit note until the new Macbook comes out😉
Is there an event on 5/16 to announce the release at??
I just received an invite to the 5/19 store opening in NY. Isn't that the more likely venue?
I just received an invite to the 5/19 store opening in NY. Isn't that the more likely venue?
It's not certain Jobs will even be at the 5/19 store opening, despite Jobs being the one who funded a major part of it.Mersen said:
It's not impossible, it's an event, but I wouldn't say it's a greater than 50% chance.
Mersen said:
You're bringing up a good point here. There definitely has to be a sub-$1500 laptop from Apple.
How can people expect to have all of these amazing features but still have the MBP at $2000? Look at the facts:
1) Only difference in most people's "dream" is the fact that it has a 13.3" screen. Yet, people mentioned that 13.3" screens are more expensive per inch than 15" screens. So, there can't be a huge price drop because of screen size.
2) Core Solo vs (potentially slower than 1.83ghz) Core Duo. This is where we'll find the largest difference.
3) Hard disk size. This isn't going to help, because one of the rules of hard disks is that there is not a linear "per byte" amount. Shaving 20% off the disk size may only mean you save 5% on the cost of the disk. (Microsoft learned this lesson the hard way by including the disk in every Xbox, which has been rumored to be the main reason they are losing so much on each Xbox sold and is also the reason they made it optional on the 360.)
4) Combo drive vs Superdrive. As others mentioned, this is what, a $10 difference in parts? Not enough.
5) Integrated graphics. So, yes, we come to it, folks. This is sufficient for most users and is really one of the only ways to lower the price.
6) Cheaper casing material. This will probably be included.
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So, my point is, you're not going to see a MacBook at $1500 with the same specs as a MacBook Pro that is $1999.
You're going to see one with integrated graphics.
Now, Apple should release a smaller notebook with powerful graphics. I think they will; the 12" powerbook was definitely a success. The new one just will be called a MacBook Pro and it won't be under $1500.
I really don't see how Apple can not replace the 12" PB. AFAIK, it sold well enough, which should prove there is a market for a small, premium laptop. I don't think the 12" G4 PB ever matched it's bigger siblings in spec ( VRAM springs to mind, my PB only has the 64MB nVidia, and I'm sure the 12" wasn't available with the 1.67Ghz G4 ), so, as long as it betters the "normal" MacBook ( dedicated GPU vs integrated ) while not quite matching the 15.4" MBP, I fail to see a reason why there shouldn't be a 13" MBP.
pjkelnhofer
macrumors 6502a
IscariotJ said:
That is a very good point. I am not sure why everyone is so sure that the 12 inch PB is going to be eliminated from the line-up.
Right now, what are the major differences between the G4 iBook and the G4 PB?
PowerBook vs. iBook
1.50 GHz vs. 1.33Ghz
80 GB HD vs. 40 GB HD
SuperDrive vs. Combo Drive
GeForce FX Go5200 with 64MB vs. Radeon 9550 with 32MB
mini DVI out vs. VGA out
Dual Display vs. Video mirroring only
Thinner/Smaller vs. Thicker/Bigger (25% more total volume)
Aluminum Case vs. Plastic Case
As far as I can tell those are the only differences, and in Apple's mind, those are worth a $500 price difference. So why not a 12.1 inch MacBook Pro at $1499 and 13.3 inch MacBooks at $999 and $1499. The important thing would be the Pro have BTO options that are not availible on the MacBook.
ImAlwaysRight
macrumors 6502a
Because Apple is going all widescreen. Look at the Intel iMac, Intel MacBook Pros. All widescreen. They are not going to offer an Intel 12" 4:3 MacBook/Pro. Sorry. 🙁 Plus simplification is another reason.pjkelnhofer said:
As for specs, it is very likely these specs will be in the top model:
1.66GHz Core Duo
512MB DDR2 SDRAM
80GB HDD
8x Dual Layer Superdrive (if thickness is over 1")
ATI Radeon 128MB Graphics
How can Apple sell this for $500 less than the 15.4" MBP? Simple.
- slower processor (1.67 vs. 1.83 GHz)
- smaller screen (13.3" vs. 15.4")
- memory is two 256MB modules instead of one 512MB DIMM
- could be slower x1400 instead of x1600
- could possibly be 64MB VRAM instead of 128MB (but I doubt it)
- MacBook would not support dual-link DVI output
- MacBook would not have ExpressCard/34 slot
- MacBook would not have backlit keyboard 🙁
Plus, looking at the 17" MacBook Pro that was just released, you can configure it the same as the 2.16GHz 15" model for about the same price, meaning that computers coming out now instead of 4 months ago already have decreased in price for the same features. 😎
Let's just hope the MacBook comes out Tue this next week. I plan to post pictures during the day whenever it comes out (and probably the insides, too, so we'll know whether socketed vs. soldered processor.)
stevep
macrumors 6502a
I don't think the 2 posters you were replying to actually meant they want Apple to produce an exact replacement for the original 12" PB - more likely that they're expecting Apple to come up with a 13" MB Pro, equivalent to the old 12" but updated, with a slightly better spec than the (rumored and hoped-for) 13" 'iBook replacement'.ImAlwaysRight said:
Like IscariotJ, I think the 12" PB was a big seller (maybe selling as many as the 17" PB ???) and I would think it strange if Apple knocked it on the head, as it would leave a big gap between the top of the MacBook range and the bottom of the MBPro range.
ImAlwaysRight said:
Why would Apple intentionally disable the dual-link DVI output? Isn't that standard on the X1600/X1400? I doubt they would do it just because iBooks currently aren't able to do spanning.
Also, the slower processor / smaller screen won't add up to $500 difference in price. The Expresscard/34 slot, RAM, and backlit keyboard features being left out would make it closer, however.
I still think we're looking at two separate models - the 13.3" MacBook Pro (with ATI Radeon and 1.83 - 2.16ghz Core Duo) and a 13.3" MacBook (with the items you mentioned and integrated graphics).
The 17" isn't much more expensive, I heard, because it's significantly larger, which means Apple has to spend less effort getting the smallest components.