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MacBook, MacBook Pro To See Merom Upgrade Next Month?
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ariechel said:
Hi, forgive me if my statement is going to be stupid. but the price difference of an integrated graphics card and a dedicated one is quite a bit. Integrated graphics comes together with the motherboard (correct me please if i'm wrong) so it includes in the price of the motherboard. however, the dedicated graphics do costs quite a bit more. and screen size also makes a lot of difference in the pricing.
cyberdogl2 said:
i agree. merom will be the same pricing as the yonah, tho yonah will drop in pricing after a while. besides, even after the drop of yonah's pricing, the price of merom stays the same! so why wouldn't Apple change to merom and keep the price of the lappies the same? I don't really mind paying the same price for a merom chip and the new 965PM chipset. I'm all set to get the MB man!
Oh. there's one post saying he wants the best graphics card in his notebook? if i'm not wrong it'll be for gaming? why don't u game on a desktop?? nothing beats a desktop when you're talking about gaming performance. just my 2 cents =)
I've always done best waiting.
It's really tempting to buy a Refurb 2.0 MacBook Core Duo for $1099.00
but if Merom based models might be here within a month, I'm waiting to know all my possibilities.
New model or price drop either way I'll know my alternatives better.
It's really tempting to buy a Refurb 2.0 MacBook Core Duo for $1099.00
but if Merom based models might be here within a month, I'm waiting to know all my possibilities.
New model or price drop either way I'll know my alternatives better.
Reverend Wally said:
Welcome to the world of Mac. May you enjoy it.
One suggestion: Take a look at Parallels Desktop (http://www.parallels.com). You may like it better, as you don't have to reboot, and you can just keep a backup copy of the hard disk file for when Windows craps out on you.
I'm using it on my MacBook, and it's very fast, stable, and easy. Plus, I can boot windows in a few seconds, do what I have to do, and then shut it down w/o ever leaving OS X. Thog like.
AidenShaw said:
Well, after supporting Macs, PCs, and all sorts of UNIX boxes for a long, long time now, I would place Macs (especially laptops) well above PeeCees in reliability and stability (and I lived through System 5 and 7.5.3!).
I don't think build quality is as high as it was (for example, comparing my MacBook to my original iBook SE), but that's industry-wide.
mattrud said:
If you absolutely need a machine right now, then buy. If not, wait a month, it's not too long.
Just don't get caught playing the waiting game, or else you'll always be waiting and will never buy. You may want to wait for a Merom MacBook, but then once it comes you might say, "Oh, I'll just wait for iLife 07 to be included, it's only a couple months away". Then when that happens, it will be, "Oh, but Leopard's coming out soon, I'll wait for that to be pre-installed". After that, it will be, "Hmm, but Penryn is coming out soon, maybe I should just wait for that!" And before you know it, we're having this same chat a year from now.
thogs_cave said:Welcome to the world of Mac. May you enjoy it.
One suggestion: Take a look at Parallels Desktop (http://www.parallels.com). You may like it better, as you don't have to reboot, and you can just keep a backup copy of the hard disk file for when Windows craps out on you.
I'm using it on my MacBook, and it's very fast, stable, and easy. Plus, I can boot windows in a few seconds, do what I have to do, and then shut it down w/o ever leaving OS X. Thog like.
DeLorme Street Atlas 2007 won't run under Parallels. Especially with the BT GPS locater I use. And Route 66 is a joke.
AidenShaw said:
Fantastic for the size, probably not. Fantastic compared to the G5 quad, sure. Fantastic implementation of the drive sleds, yes. And maybe most importantly, fantastic for the price, definitely. Is there another quad xeon machine to be had at this price? If getting it this cheap means "only" four HD bays, I'm OK with that.
cyberdogl2 said:
I wouldn't be so sure that yonah will STAY the same price once merom machines start shipping, I expect them to drop. And I doubt PC makers will dump yonah, I expect it will remain in the cheapest models. If intel doesn't drop Yonah prices, how are they going to sell their remaining stock of them?
gnasher729 said:
No, as long as the Core 2 Duo model had a slightly different name. Or if they put in a clarification that excludes the new models when they are released. They're in the clear as long as they exclude the new models before anyone has a chance to order them. Don't forget, there's always the possibility that they'll announce the machines but not ship them for a couple weeks - if people can't actually buy the machines before the rebate ends, that effectively excludes them from the rebate.
milo said:
Whenever Apple announces new machines that don't ship immediately, they are always available for pre-order. As long as you ORDER them before the 16th (in the US, at least) you will be able to get the rebate, regardless of when you actually receive the machine. What matters is the date on the sales receipt.
Maybe you should check...
...if Windows XP Pro X64 is supported, since MEROM is a 64 Bit processor. The OS exists and can be bought.
ANy comments on this issue???
Reverend Wally said:I am a new guy here. Someone just took me out of the box. I hope they send my warranty in. LOL
I am definitely going to switch from PCs (yuck) to a MacBook Pro, but I am waiting for an insurance settlement to do so, and will also wait for the Merom version.
I do plan on running boot camp and Windows XP Pro, simply because that is the only way I can use DeLorme Street Atlas USA 2007. I have found Mac versions of just about every other software I am running in Windows.
Needless to say, I am sick of spending 3/4 of my time with Windows incompatibility and virus, trojan, spyware, and worm issues. I have been doing due diligence on the Macbook Pro for almost 2 months now, including going to Mac Authority, and CompUSA to put their floor units through torture tests. LOL
I am a university student (at 62 years old) and need a really dependable computer to study on, and Mac is it.
...if Windows XP Pro X64 is supported, since MEROM is a 64 Bit processor. The OS exists and can be bought.
ANy comments on this issue???
DeVizardofOZ said:...if Windows XP Pro X64 is supported, since MEROM is a 64 Bit processor. The OS exists and can be bought.
ANy comments on this issue???
XP 64 doesn't work on the mac pro. You need to run XP pro. I assume it will be the same on other 64 bit macs. I wouldn't expect them to bother getting XP 64 working, they'll just skip it in favor of vista.
milo said:
I agree - I don't see the point of getting 64-bit XP to work. Apple will just focus on getting Vista to work and leave it at that.
Daystar Industries offers current Powerbook owners upgrades to faster G4's I am sure they will upgrade Intel Macs as well. It may take some time.mashinhead said:
Cloatus said:
Thanks for that link, it does look possible tho:
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Reverend Walter M Dow
"I received a call from Apple yesterday and while I had the guy on the phone I asked him about the 2gb chips. He said the only reason he knew of that they were not saying 4gb would work is that the chips 1. Have not been tested by Apple ... and 2. They are fairly expensive. The 2 gig memory chips will work as long as they are within the DDR2 667 standards of the 1 gig chips that are used by Apple."
conradzoo said:
Exactly. What's interesting is that one 2 gig stick works, just not anything beyond that. One person claimed to have 4 gigs running in an imac but he hasn't provided any details (and nobody else has made it work) so some people are skeptical.
One interesting thing is that the 2 gig stick showed up in system profiler as 16 exabytes! Odd.
Not to get off topic about 2 gigs and 64 bit, but did you all see the report by Appleinsider about Merom?
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1975
I was just wondering if anyone thinks it is all true. I've heard of the Merom's going to TDP of 35 watts, but remember that CNET video where the battery lasted longer? So I suppose could anyone clarify?
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1975
I was just wondering if anyone thinks it is all true. I've heard of the Merom's going to TDP of 35 watts, but remember that CNET video where the battery lasted longer? So I suppose could anyone clarify?
poppe said:
I noticed this a while back and put it to the pack in another thread. I think the end result was somethng like yes, it uses more heat, and draws more power when running on full power, but because it is 10-20% faster while running at full power, it takes less time to complete designated tasks. It would therefore take less effort to boost a Yonah processor out of battery saving mode than a Merom one. So simply, the extra juice is more than compensated by less time spent drawing it during calculations.
Of course, like most things to do with computers, the more power you have, the more you use. You can just imagine someone trading up to a new processor, getting three times as much done due to extra speed in an hour on a new laptop, and then complaining because the new laptop battery only lasted for half the time of the old.
It is a pity the processors only throttle down to a gigahert. 500Mhz is easily enough for word processing or even some gaming (3D included. Quake 3 runs great on my cube: Emphasis here on 3. Not 4 of course ;-) 1 Ghz (and then dual core) is complete overkill for an "idle" state in my opinion. It would be good if one core could throttle to 500, and the other shut down completely.
Back to topic, is support of 2Gb RAM sticks something that could be added in a near future firmware update, or even 10.4.8?