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Yes, that’s why I’m promoting it 😁It's $850 for 512 Gb SSD.
Most people don't know about the refurbished store.
Yes, that’s why I’m promoting it 😁It's $850 for 512 Gb SSD.
Most people don't know about the refurbished store.
I actually had the $699 version of the Neo in my cart at Apple’s online store when my head cleared. Instead I ordered a refurbed M4 MBA 16/256 for only $50 more. Should I have ordered the same MBA back when I could get a brand-new example for the same price? Sure. But I was holding out hope that the Neo would be thinner and/or lighter. It turns out that it’s not. And who’s to say my “refurbished” MBA isn’t actually new with Apple dumping supply now that the M5 MBA is out?
You know.. you are right. I'm sitting here in a dimly lit room on my 15" Air and TBH, the backlit keyboard is a requirement as well.
I had a store credit, cancelled my order and when it is back I'll order a refurb. Nice to have MagSafe as well.
Don't think I am missing out on anything other than "the latest"
I'm curious to see how well VMware Fusion will run on it.
It runs well on my MB Air M1 8GB.👍
Head to head, the M4 Air is a better value (for my needs)It's a good thing you're giving Apple more money and helping them empty their surplus store.
I'm not judging. Do what you want to do, but how does the fact that they don't check make it not dishonest?$499 is the EDU price which can be gotten by anybody as Apple doesn't "check". Nothing dishonest about it at all so behave.
Probably for touchIDHmm looks like girls love blush and are buying it… Uh also why people buy 512gb? Aren’t they students?
If somebody wants to spend an extra 100 bucks to pretend to be "honest" then that's their choice. If that makes them think they're being honest then they're lying to themselves. Everybody is dishonest and those that pretend otherwise are lying to themselves.I'm not judging. Do what you want to do, but how does the fact that they don't check make it not dishonest?
If you ask me my age and I lie but you don't check my ID to confirm, does that mean I was honest? 🤔
Some people dont work in the darkno backlit keyboard in 2026 is shameful.
I was simply stating of fact: claiming a discount for students and educators when you are not a student or educator is by definition dishonest.If somebody wants to spend an extra 100 bucks to pretend to be "honest" then that's their choice. If that makes them think they're being honest then they're lying to themselves. Everybody is dishonest and those that pretend otherwise are lying to themselves.
iMac is also sold on the cheap, yes I do have to agree that I was surprised that the keyboard keys were colour coded and not just white like the iMac keyboard but that also complimented the white frame around the iMac display and is complimentary aesthetics.or, it might be that supplying and stocking color coded power cables costs more money on a "cheap as they can make it" device? I'm impressed that they actually color matched the keyboards.
Exactly what is your point? I’m not trying to “punish” anyone. I’m merely acting in my own interests.You punished Apple by giving them $50 more and helping them empty their surplus store.
Wish more people did this.
It's not a fact though, is it? You're applying your narrative and interpretation to the position. There is no qualifier of the definition of "dishonest" in any context here. One can easily postulate being a 'student of life' so "qualifies" for this discount. It all goes back to how people view the utility of their dollar. I make systems work for me but people can happily pay a 100$ tax is that makes them feel better.I was simply stating of fact: claiming a discount for students and educators when you are not a student or educator is by definition dishonest.
I couldn't care less if people choose to be dishonest in this regard, but call a spade a spade.
Just don’t run for elected office.It's not a fact though, is it? You're applying your narrative and interpretation to the position. There is no qualifier of the definition of "dishonest" in any context here. One can easily postulate being a 'student of life' so "qualifies" for this discount. It all goes back to how people view the utility of their dollar. I make systems work for me but people can happily pay a 100$ tax is that makes them feel better.
Some people dont work in the dark
For those of us who learned how to type on typewriters, computer keyboards have never been as intuitive. For a long time it was because most computer keyboards weren’t truly full-sized. But, even now, it just doesn’t come as naturally.You’ve got that right. And Dark or not, you’re supposed to be looking at the screen when you type, not the keyboard. There’s things called Home keys and they have marks on them for a reason. Don’t they teach proper typing techniques in schools anymore?
It's not a fact though, is it? You're applying your narrative and interpretation to the position. There is no qualifier of the definition of "dishonest" in any context here. One can easily postulate being a 'student of life' so "qualifies" for this discount. It all goes back to how people view the utility of their dollar. I make systems work for me but people can happily pay a 100$ tax is that makes them feel better.
I really depends on the kind of data you have. For most people, their photo library is the biggest data block and those get big quickly. If you don’t have a to of photos or if you don’t keep photos on the machine, then 256 becomes reasonable. If you turn on optimized storage, a lot of your data won’t be on the local storage.Buying a computer with a 256 GB SSD is a very bad idea for most people, including students.
And supplies are limited on the refurb store. Check the supply of Mac Mini’s right now.It's $850 for 512 Gb SSD.
Most people don't know about the refurbished store.
It’s not always so simple. Typing passwords or numbers is trickier if you can’t see the keyboard. Most of us are not so optimal at touch typing that we can always hit the 1 instead of the 2 or not mess up that oddly paired key combo for the password. Having a backlit keyboard removes that concern. Of course, so does turning on a light and while I would miss a backlit keyboard on these devices, I understand the tradeoff and consider it reasonable.You’ve got that right. And Dark or not, you’re supposed to be looking at the screen when you type, not the keyboard. There’s things called Home keys and they have marks on them for a reason. Don’t they teach proper typing techniques in schools anymore?
For those of us who learned how to type on typewriters, computer keyboards have never been as intuitive. For a long time it was because most computer keyboards weren’t truly full-sized. But, even now, it just doesn’t come as naturally.
In my personal case, all of this is aggravated by the fact that when I was learning how to type in high school, I was working in a radio newsroom on weekends. The proper way to learn typing is to use proper 10-finger technique and then build speed with time. But I had to bang out newscasts quickly on ancient Underwoods for two shifts every week. So I developed a strange hybrid using six-to-eight fingers. Half real typing and half hunt and peck. It got the job done for 51 years - even in network newsrooms.
Different people have different needs, whether the MacBook Neo is a good value or not depends on the needs of the user.Head to head, the M4 Air is a better value (for my needs)