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Macbook Pro 15inch 2011 ATI 6750m Game Benchmarks

goldsaint said:
Alright ! finally a starcraft 2 win7 on the 6750 !
i can't wait seriously ! if tje video proves to run the game way better than my gt330, i'll just sell my 2010 and get again the new one !

then we'll call all this discussion a day ;)
p. s : did you apply thermal paste or something ?

i have read reports that users were litterally replacing the heatsink and apply a mx4 thermal paste to get the proper ventilation of the gpu.
that sounds too far fetched though, but nonetheless possible
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Yeah you'll have to do a quick run of SC2 yourself to compare. Do in utter darkness on ultra and your native res and let me know how it compares to my video. It's uploading now, it's 1GB in 720p lol so it'll be an overnight upload (my upload speed is like 600kbps ouch). I'll link it in the morning.
I did some iMovie edits to let you know the res or clocks I use through since I switch a few times. Overclocked 6750 is pretty beastly though, since I'm a sucker for hi-res it hurts the FPS a tad. At 1440x900 it'd run 5-10FPS better. I compare some resolutions too.

As for the thermal paste, yeah I re-did the thermal paste. I actually made a video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMxoHK0Os4 that several MR peeps have found useful. Put on MX-4.

But yeah my GPU usage is at full 100% every time SC2 is up. Not sure what's up with superkrups =T
 
aznguyen316 said:
Yeah you'll have to do a quick run of SC2 yourself to compare. Do in utter darkness on ultra and your native res and let me know how it compares to my video. It's uploading now, it's 1GB in 720p lol so it'll be an overnight upload (my upload speed is like 600kbps ouch). I'll link it in the morning.
I did some iMovie edits to let you know the res or clocks I use through since I switch a few times. Overclocked 6750 is pretty beastly though, since I'm a sucker for hi-res it hurts the FPS a tad. At 1440x900 it'd run 5-10FPS better. I compare some resolutions too.

As for the thermal paste, yeah I re-did the thermal paste. I actually made a video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMxoHK0Os4 that several MR peeps have found useful. Put on MX-4.

But yeah my GPU usage is at full 100% every time SC2 is up. Not sure what's up with superkrups =T
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MAN I AM SOOO JEALOUS! WTF IS WRONG WITH MY MACHINE?!?!?!?! LOL I almost want to try to reinstall Windows and see if that helps, but before I do that, what is the proper way to uninstall the ATI drivers and then reinstall them? I've been uninstalling the ATI drivers via the Device Manager, but I have a feeling that is not getting rid of everything. Nonetheless, if it comes to me reinstalling Windows, it's going to be a while. I only have time for that kind of procedure two weekends from now :/

I emailed ATI customer service too. I doubt they know whats up if you guys can't even figure it out, but it's worth a shot :/ Thanks for trying though, guys! I appreciate it. I can't wait until I figure out how to unleash the true power of this machine.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC3BBehrHmk

2:00 to show effect on FPS by resolution (I cut between some switches to save a few seconds)
4:30 for MSI afterburner GPU usage
6:40 for overclocked gameplay via MSI afterburner 780/900
11:18 for Extreme settings

There's my short SC2 video playing in Bootcamp with Ultra settings, on my hi-res screen. Fraps in upper right, keep an eye on it as I switch between resolutions and overclock. Map is In Utter Darkness. Definitely does NOT bring my laptop to a crawl, far from it. Really happy with boot camp performance.

When I get a chance today I'm going to load up "In Utter Darkness" on OSX and just briefly compare how it runs using the in-game FPS counter (cmd+option+F). Just out of my own curiosity.
 
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Yo Azn, Thanks so much for the video man ! it shows great results !

unfortunately, i can't replay the prophecy mission ;( (cause i have to re-do the whole campaign on brutal mode)

That sucks ;(

Can we test on the first map Liberation day ? in ultra i get 25-35fps 1440x900 res

Tell me how much you get please.
Great vid by the way and cool wallpaper :D

P.S : wait, i just found the map to dl, so i can test it out. from this site : http://www.d3scene.com/forum/starcr...rry-up-its-raid-night-1-3-2-a.html#post404795
 
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Alright, i did the utter darkness video like you Azn.
All on Ultra Settings, 1440x900 native res.

video is uploading (124Min) hopefully it will be in HD.

fps varies from Lowest : 25
Max : 54

not bad at all ;)
 
Nice. I'll have to run It in 1280x1024 res and see how it compares. Also if u don't mind testing again mind running the fraps fps recorder? I mean the one that benchmarks min max and avg. That way we can get better comparison numbers for fps. Id say record first five minutes, hotkey it so it doesn't record 0 fps when u alt tab back into game Lol this is fun.
 
aznguyen316 said:
Nice. I'll have to run It in 1280x1024 res and see how it compares. Also if u don't mind testing again mind running the fraps fps recorder? I mean the one that benchmarks min max and avg. That way we can get better comparison numbers for fps. Id say record first five minutes, hotkey it so it doesn't record 0 fps when u alt tab back into game Lol this is fun.
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no i dont mind at all. Explain me how to run the record (steps) in fraps ?
i never done this before.

video still uploading... taking a hella time :eek:
 
goldsaint said:
no i dont mind at all. Explain me how to run the record (steps) in fraps ?
i never done this before.

video still uploading... taking a hella time :eek:
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hahha yeah uploading takes forever, which is why I did it overnight =)

As for the recording. I know you have fraps since you've run it. Just go to the FPS tab and it will give you options for benchmarking like fps, Minmaxavg etc. Do that minmaxavg radio button, set the hotkey to something that works on the MacBook keyboard either an fn+F key or some other key like [ or ]. When in game, I suggest loading up the map first then after it's loaded and gameplay is available, start the benchmark via the hotkey. After say 5 minutes of playing, press that hotkey again to stop the auto recording of FPS. It will make a .txt file in your installed fraps folder under "benchmarks". Inside, it will have your min fps, max fps and then a calculated average.

I'll go do that now at a lower resolution. Also going to test how well highs run overall hehe
 
ok gotcha. as soon as the vid is loaded on youtube, i'll put the link 1st here, then do the recorded fraps thing.
 
oh to make it easier, I'm just going to check the tab "stop benchmark after xxx seconds" and I put in 240 seconds. So I'll just run the benchmark using "\" hotkey and let it run automatically and it will stop automatically. Then just use notepad to open the .csv files it generates.

Also your map you downloaded is the actual campaign stuff right? Not just some open playable map?

Alright, did two benchmarks. First one I let it run for about 5-6 minutes and stopped it. ULTRA settings, Overlocked and running at 1280x1024 resolution which is just a tad higher in pixels than 1440x900.

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
12570, 233737, 42, 64, 53.778

And then I ran it again for 4 minutes using the 240 second timer. This one was further into gameplay when I had an army size of 150-160 and battling through middle stages of the fight with the void rays =) You can see minimum fps went down just barely but my overall average is 53FPS which is damn good.


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
12909, 240000, 34, 66, 53.788
 
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aznguyen316 said:
oh to make it easier, I'm just going to check the tab "stop benchmark after xxx seconds" and I put in 240 seconds. So I'll just run the benchmark using "\" hotkey and let it run automatically and it will stop automatically. Then just use notepad to open the .csv files it generates.

Also your map you downloaded is the actual campaign stuff right? Not just some open playable map?

Alright, did two benchmarks. First one I let it run for about 5-6 minutes and stopped it. ULTRA settings, Overlocked and running at 1280x1024 resolution which is just a tad higher in pixels than 1440x900.

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
12570, 233737, 42, 64, 53.778

And then I ran it again for 4 minutes using the 240 second timer. This one was further into gameplay when I had an army size of 150-160 and battling through middle stages of the fight with the void rays =) You can see minimum fps went down just barely but my overall average is 53FPS which is damn good.


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
12909, 240000, 34, 66, 53.788
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Alright, here is the link for the video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gk9rheV1ZM

i was recording with my iphone 4 on my left hand and playing with the right hand lol. Sometimes fps is cut out for a short period of time. sry for that.

Now trying the recording stuff
 
Alright, here are the info with recording fraps :

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
173, 3845, 44, 46, 44.993

overclocked gt330m, 1440x900, All ultra settings

Conclusion : you have like 10fps more than me Grr, but the 6750 is faster i have to admit it, and also smoother on framerate.
i think the difference is noticeable in Crysis 2 for example, where you get 70fps and i get 50fps. thats a good 20+ fps

Well, i am thinking if its worth spending another 800$ just to upgrade to the 2011... (to gain some fps)
What do you think ?
 
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I dunno if it's worth $800 for 10fps. If you're happy with 330m then I say just stick with it. If you can wait another year to upgrade, you know there will always be better hardware in the future. Plus Heart of the Swarm won't be released til 2012 anyway. By then you'll probably need/want to upgrade to run on high/ultra.
That's my opinion. I upgrade nearly every year though lol b/c I haven't found it hard to get what I want for asking price instead of paying $250 for applecare.

On another note, try recording Fraps for a bit longer. Your numberswon't really work for comparing. It looks like you didn't record very long at all compared to my frames/time. If it helps just do a manual start and stop or set that auto stop to 240seconds (4 minutes) which is what my time is. Play for like 5 minutes and then stop it. Cuz your time it looks very short (3 seconds!) which is why min/max isn't very different. That doesn't give true readings.
 
aznguyen316 said:
I dunno if it's worth $800 for 10fps. If you're happy with 330m then I say just stick with it. If you can wait another year to upgrade, you know there will always be better hardware in the future. Plus Heart of the Swarm won't be released til 2012 anyway. By then you'll probably need/want to upgrade to run on high/ultra.
That's my opinion. I upgrade nearly every year though lol b/c I haven't found it hard to get what I want for asking price instead of paying $250 for applecare.

On another note, try recording Fraps for a bit longer. Your numberswon't really work for comparing. It looks like you didn't record very long at all compared to my frames/time. If it helps just do a manual start and stop or set that auto stop to 240seconds (4 minutes) which is what my time is. Play for like 5 minutes and then stop it. Cuz your time it looks very short (3 seconds!) which is why min/max isn't very different. That doesn't give true readings.
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Ok right, i'll record the whole mission then.
 
thanks for taking the time to compare. I'll just say that was still 20seconds though haha but yeah. Glad we got some numbers. Nice vid too I'm sure people will appreciate the comparison numbers as I've seen SC2 and 2010 vs 2011 being pretty important for people.
 
Just out of curiosity can someone do a comparison of how well games run under OS X compared to Windows(no overclocking) with the 6750M (or 6490M)?

Mainly looking for Starcraft 2 and Source engine games. Thanks in advance.
 
aznguyen316 said:
thanks for taking the time to compare. I'll just say that was still 20seconds though haha but yeah. Glad we got some numbers. Nice vid too I'm sure people will appreciate the comparison numbers as I've seen SC2 and 2010 vs 2011 being pretty important for people.
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np man. i dunno why it says 20 sec as i recorded for a good 30-45min.
whatever...
so what conclusions you would take from the whole 6750 vs 330 ?
 
goldsaint said:
np man. i dunno why it says 20 sec as i recorded for a good 30-45min.
whatever...
so what conclusions you would take from the whole 6750 vs 330 ?
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to be honest I was never a fan of the 330m, only because I had an M11x with a 335m that is substantially better than the 330m and was bummed when apple went with it in their 2010 models. I am however impressed with the overclocking ability of the 330m and obviously the drivers are more mature and moddable. I do really like the 6750 a lot though and part of it is because it's paired with the quad cores. I was extremely annoyed how laggy SC2 would make my computer due to the dual core. I know that's not really GPU based. The 330m is still pretty solid GPU but I think in the next few months with more drivers and with newer games coming out, the 330m will show its age. I don't expect it to run The Witcher 2 very well etc. The 6750 isn't the best available now but at least it's geared toward higher graphics processing at the time of release than the 330m was at it's time of release.
 
aznguyen316 said:
to be honest I was never a fan of the 330m, only because I had an M11x with a 335m that is substantially better than the 330m and was bummed when apple went with it in their 2010 models. I am however impressed with the overclocking ability of the 330m and obviously the drivers are more mature and moddable. I do really like the 6750 a lot though and part of it is because it's paired with the quad cores. I was extremely annoyed how laggy SC2 would make my computer due to the dual core. I know that's not really GPU based. The 330m is still pretty solid GPU but I think in the next few months with more drivers and with newer games coming out, the 330m will show its age. I don't expect it to run The Witcher 2 very well etc. The 6750 isn't the best available now but at least it's geared toward higher graphics processing at the time of release than the 330m was at it's time of release.
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fair enough, so its useless for me to get the new one and spend an extra 800$... i will wait 2012 revision and i hope they come up with a 1st class gpu for their record.

i dont think upgrading to an ssd and 8gb ram would increase video perf either...
 
Hate to clutter up this thread anymore, but I guess it's all relevant. If I were you, I'd wait if you can wait. The 6750 is basically at the top of "mid-range" GPU if you wanna go by Notebook check, but I've had a 260m GTX in a Sager laptop and the 6750 from my benchmarks performs VERY similar. Comparing my old benchmarks they're damn near the same. I'd say it could be considered bottom of high-end GPU's.

See at the time the 2010 MBPs were released, the 330m was already a lower mid-range GPU so Apple really stepped it up on this release. Going back even the 9600m at time of release was still a lower end, mid-range GPU. So if Apple follows suit then yeah hopefully the 2012 will come with a higher end GPU like the 2011.
 
Evil Spoonman said:
No difference playing back HD content. I imagine the IGP is taking care of that decode anyways.
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That's not my real world experience. had the 265mb 2010 i5 2.4, there was frame dropping some times when playing full hd content. Youtube or .mkv/h.264/.avi now with the 2011 2.2 15" I don't see those problems any more. So yes, the 1gb graphics card sure make a difference, also in every day tasks.
 
monstar-x said:
Yesterday, i was on a LAN Party, we Played 12 Hour Call of Duty: BlackOps

1440x900
4x Anti Aliasing
Anisotropic Filtering 4x
All Settings on Ultra
GPU 770Mhz / RAM 1000Mhz

I have average 60 FPS/s, just when i Zoom on large Arrays the Frames drops down to 40 FPS/. I think this is a ATI Driver issue.

The Battery was drained to 74%.
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I have a feeling this is incorrect? I mean the settings are fine, I see how that could work it's even up on Youtube, but getting MORE than Apple's advertised battery life when TAXING the GPU and CPU seems a bit out of the question...
 
Killery96 said:
I have a feeling this is incorrect? I mean the settings are fine, I see how that could work it's even up on Youtube, but getting MORE than Apple's advertised battery life when TAXING the GPU and CPU seems a bit out of the question...
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I think what he meant posting the 74% was it was drained to that much WHILE plugged in, not on battery. I still find it annoying that it drains while plugged in. Yes you will have to play marathon sessions for it to drain completely, but that's ASSUMING you have it fully charged to start gaming. This isn't always the case for some people, although I'm almost always charged up. Just a tad bit annoying. Although for a 12 hour session is damn good, I'm guessing it wasn't straight 12 hours of full power.
 
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