Macbook Pro 15inch 2011 ATI 6750m Game Benchmarks

[ajarnfalang]

As far as these Benchmarks, my initial statement stands.

You can get the same benchmarks out of a computer half the price.

Funny how Apple always benchmarks and compares to other Apple laptops. Why don't we compare it to one half the price with the same hardware?

Let them show the world why they are paying twice as much.

and let it be more than a Lightpeak port. prrrrreeeeeeeeaaaaassssseeeeeee

 

[computertechno]

As far as these Benchmarks, my initial statement stands.

You can get the same benchmarks out of a computer half the price.

Funny how Apple always benchmarks and compares to other Apple laptops. Why don't we compare it to one half the price with the same hardware?

Let them show the world why they are paying twice as much.

and let it be more than a Lightpeak port. prrrrreeeeeeeeaaaaassssseeeeeee

stay on the topic, what are your benchmarks? or what do you have to add? anything useful?

 

[aznguyen316]

the problem with these benchmarks is that they're run at different resolutions. The standard for 3dmark06 is like 1280x1024 I think, kinda hard to truly compare numbers. Although vantage does require you to run at a higher res (I believe).

I will add to the discussion though that my old Sager 2.8Ghz C2D + 260m GTX scored about 10,500 at the standard resolution of 1280x1024, so I don't think the 6750 compares to a 260m just yet, and the i7 CPU absolutely destroys the 2.8GhzC2D to add to the total marks.

Anyway, I do believe the 15" high-end has really started to show some true gaming potential, no matter the cost. Because before even the highest end MBP wasn't that great of a gaming machine. The 17" looks truly good.

 

[billgates99]

My 3dmark06 score was 10177

http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15472798

Can you run 3Dmark again at 1280x1024?

 

[ddoolin0]

As far as these Benchmarks, my initial statement stands.

You can get the same benchmarks out of a computer half the price.

Funny how Apple always benchmarks and compares to other Apple laptops. Why don't we compare it to one half the price with the same hardware?

Let them show the world why they are paying twice as much.

and let it be more than a Lightpeak port. prrrrreeeeeeeeaaaaassssseeeeeee

Those laptops are almost always clunky, ugly PoS'.

 

[lewdvig]

Those laptops are almost always clunky, ugly PoS'.

You are right. I can not find another all metal notebook with a 500:1 contrast screen, quad core, and decent dedicated graphics under an inch think and 6 lbs for less than the 15" MBP.

You can add the troll to your ignore list like I just did. It insures you get the last word. LOL

Also, the T420 has a crappy GPU. The W520 has a good one. But it won't cost less, and it is made of cheap creaky plastic (my old W510 was anyway).

Back on topic:

Mass Effect 2
900p
Everything max
min 40 avg 52
MSV Corsica mission until all the mechs are destroyed

 

[lewdvig]

Can you run 3Dmark again at 1280x1024?

I am too lazy and I don't have a DP adapter or DP monitor. Sorry

 

[billgates99]

You can not find another all metal notebook with a 500:1 contrast screen, quad core, and decent dedicated graphics under and inch think and 6 lbs for less than the 15" MBP.

How about 1.05" thick?

five out of six is almost good enough, right?

but the battery is really poor (about 2 hrs unless I use the extended slice battery) and there is no internal optical drive (I guess they needed the space in order to keep the 5830M card cool).

 

[wywern209]

I am too lazy and I don't have a DP adapter or DP monitor. Sorry

why don't you just run it on your built in monitor???

 

[lewdvig]

How about 1.05" thick?

five out of six is almost good enough, right?

but the battery is really poor (about 2 hrs unless I use the extended slice battery)

I had the Envy 14 it was a hunk of junk with a down-clocked 5650 and 3.5 hour battery (best case). The metal case was thin and dent prone. Only the discontinued radiance display was worth having, the 768p screen is TERRIBLE.

Mine had Corel Painshop Pro, newer builds have Adobe Elements. Neither is as good as iLife.

It was an open box return that cost me $1060 (from $1400) - like the original owner I also took it back to the store. Future Shop where I live has a cage full of Envy notebooks. So I was not the only person let down by the HP. If I were buying an HP I would get an Elitebook 8540w or 8560p.

Envy 14 is half the price of the MBP 15" and half the computer IMO.

I work hard for my money so I buy stuff that makes me happy. I am not screwing around with junk anymore.

On topic:

AC2 crashes in OSX when leaving the game. But while it runs, it is smoother than on my octo MP with 5770. Still not super smooth 900p, all details maxed, no AA.

why don't you just run it on your built in monitor???

Teach me your magic trick that enables 1280x1024 on a 900p screen???

 

[dagamer34]

I totally agree, native without AA, in my opinion, looks always better than any lower resolution with max AA But eg with Crysis you will need 1GB videoram for > 1280x720 (very high)



...and still there is no MacBook that can outmax the "so old" Crysis

Greetings

You could always game in 960x600 with tons of AA. Yay for pixel doubling!

 

[lewdvig]

I totally agree, native without AA, in my opinion, looks always better than any lower resolution with max AA But eg with Crysis you will need 1GB videoram for > 1280x720 (very high)



...and still there is no MacBook that can outmax the "so old" Crysis

Greetings

And there was no card that could max it 5 years ago when I beat either. So what? It is not worth replaying. It's not even a good benchmark because it is poorly coded compared to Warhead and Crysis 2.

Speaking of which, the 6750 should run Crysis 2 very well - we will be able to test this in a few days.

 

[rachellarissa]

QUOTE]

why are you even here?

 

[cathyy]

Teach me your magic trick that enables 1280x1024 on a 900p screen???

I used to be able to do that in Windows XP. In fact I could run any resolution on my 1440x900 screen. The screen would just scroll to the side when I moved my mouse there. Not so sure how to do it anymore though.

 

[ddoolin0]

How about 1.05" thick?

five out of six is almost good enough, right?

but the battery is really poor (about 2 hrs unless I use the extended slice battery)

The Envy is my second-choice, just because it actually looks decent and performs at the same level, more or less. Maybe not in every aspect, but it's still good, and it looks great. I hate carrying around ugly laptops. I've had my fair share.

 

[gabeomatic]

I still have my "old" late 08 mbp OC'd and it games like a champ, honestly.

35-55 FPS ON SC2 all ultra except shadow and shaders on high (512mb 9600mgt) and it looks and plays beautiful. For an rts even 25fps is extremely playable

Plus my 2.8 C2D can run at 3.2 with temps stabilizing around 82-83C max..

I could squeeze so much out of this new mbp, though no need to oc the i7 as it does it automatically in low threaded applications.

Bootcamp btw, obviously.

So jealous of the guys who are playing with the new 6750m =P

 

[ddoolin0]

I still have my "old" late 08 mbp OC'd and it games like a champ, honestly.

35-55 FPS ON SC2 all ultra except shadow and shaders on high (512mb 9600mgt) and it looks and plays beautiful. For an rts even 25fps is extremely playable

Plus my 2.8 C2D can run at 3.2 with temps stabilizing around 82-83C max..

I could squeeze so much out of this new mbp, though no need to oc the i7 as it does it automatically in low threaded applications.

Bootcamp btw, obviously.

So jealous of the guys who are playing with the new 6750m =P

I'm actually pretty excited myself to see how much I can push the 600 MHz up. The heating is already bad apparently, so we'll see, but after re-applying the TP maybe I can get some better results.

I'm also excited about the CPU, too. It's not built for OC'ing but these Intel chips can still be pushed quite a bit!

 

[ajarnfalang]

stay on the topic, what are your benchmarks? or what do you have to add? anything useful?

I don't sit there and benchmark my own laptop.

My Asus has the exact same hardware as the Macbook Pro 2010 version. Only I have a 1GB Geforce and my screen is 14".

and it cost under $1,000.

You are right. I can not find another all metal notebook with a 500:1 contrast screen, quad core, and decent dedicated graphics under an inch think and 6 lbs for less than the 15" MBP.

You can add the troll to your ignore list like I just did. It insures you get the last word. LOL

Also, the T420 has a crappy GPU. The W520 has a good one. But it won't cost less, and it is made of cheap creaky plastic (my old W510 was anyway).

Back on topic:

Mass Effect 2
900p
Everything max
min 40 avg 52
MSV Corsica mission until all the mechs are destroyed

We can talk about how crap the old Powerbooks were too.

Why are you stuck on Thinkpads? I've given you 3 different laptops.

I own an ASUS.

You put an ASUS gaming laptop of the same price as a Macbook Pro and it'll SMOKE the hell out of it.

and if you want metal like the other guy, yes, you can get it in Metal under 6lbs.

I guess you guys are blinded by the Apple logo.'

For example, the ASUS N53SV

It's a beauty

Weighs 5.9lbs with the battery

FULL HD 15.6" screen 1920x1080

Intel® Core™ i7 2630QM

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM

Blu-Ray DVD Combo

and all the ports you want.

It smokes the Macbook anyday.

I really don't get why you people are so stuck on weight and how thin the laptop is.

Firstly, if it is too thin, the heat signature is less, so, like many people with Macbooks, you will have overheating issues. How many people have had their legs burnt to hell by their Macbooks.

Not to mention, they're metal. So it makes it worse.

Then the weight. Do you carry your laptop like a cell phone? No.

I wouldn't care if my laptop was 20 pounds. 99.9% of the time is on top of a desk. If not, is on top of a pillow on my lap (if I'm watching TV).

The most I carry it is from the car to the office and back to the car at the end of the day.

So, if the laptop is 3 inches ad weighs 7 pounds, WHO CARES! You can't carry 7 pounds from your car to your desk?

 

[ddoolin0]

We can talk about how crap the old Powerbooks were too.

Why are you stuck on Thinkpads? I've given you 3 different laptops.

I own an ASUS.

You put an ASUS gaming laptop of the same price as a Macbook Pro and it'll SMOKE the hell out of it.

and if you want metal like the other guy, yes, you can get it in Metal under 6lbs.

I guess you guys are blinded by the Apple logo.'

For example, the ASUS N53SV

It's a beauty

http://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/Gjsm3Kp4pjz9iJM1/P_500.jpg

Weighs 5.9lbs with the battery

FULL HD 15.6" screen 1920x1080

Intel® Core™ i7 2630QM

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM

Blu-Ray DVD Combo

and all the ports you want.

It smokes the Macbook anyday.

The only thing that it has over the MBP is an ugly plastic form factor bottom that ASUS can't seem to shake and a Blu-Ray drive for Blu-Ray discs that nobody buys. People here argue for the removal of an optical drive and here you are boasting about it. Seems kind of like you're talking to a brick wall. Hardly anybody WANTS an optical drive. Hardly anybody WANTS a billion useless ass ports.

The GT 540M is on par with the 6750M, not significantly higher, not significantly lower. They're easily mobile equivalents.

Processor...same thing.

For ASUS, it's all about how much crap you can fit into one computer. It always has been. All they do is cram more and more components.

 

[Kauai]

Someone has nothing better to do.

 

[vodan]

Nice - this is exactly the information that I've been trying to find.

Thinking about getting the higher end 15" to replace both my desktop and my laptop. I mainly play WoW and Rift (windows-only, so will need bootcamp).

So far most of the comments are about native resolutions though - how will performance decrease when using a larger screen? I'll be using a 24" monitor with Displayport, so probably will be running in closed clamshell mode.

Thanks

 

[grahamnp]

The only thing that it has over the MBP is an ugly plastic form factor bottom that ASUS can't seem to shake and a Blu-Ray drive for Blu-Ray discs that nobody buys. People here argue for the removal of an optical drive and here you are boasting about it. Seems kind of like you're talking to a brick wall. Hardly anybody WANTS an optical drive. Hardly anybody WANTS a billion useless ass ports.

The GT 540M is on par with the 6750M, not significantly higher, not significantly lower. They're easily mobile equivalents.

Processor...same thing.

For ASUS, it's all about how much crap you can fit into one computer. It always has been. All they do is cram more and more components.

Yes, people want the optical drive gone, I am one of them. Nobody wants it out because we all hate opticals discs, most people think the space is better used for more ports and better cooling both of which are problems with the MBP. There are no known cooling issues with this Asus and which idiot complains about having more ports? Asus does not force you to attach one peripheral per port, if you don't need it, don't use it.

There are plenty of good reasons to buy a Mac but you are being ridiculous. The Asus offers 90% of what the Mac does for half the price so don't knock it for lame reasons.

 

[billgates99]

I had the Envy 14 it was a hunk of junk with a down-clocked 5650 and 3.5 hour battery (best case). The metal case was thin and dent prone. Only the discontinued radiance display was worth having, the 768p screen is TERRIBLE.

Mine had Corel Painshop Pro, newer builds have Adobe Elements. Neither is as good as iLife.

It was an open box return that cost me $1060 (from $1400) - like the original owner I also took it back to the store. Future Shop where I live has a cage full of Envy notebooks. So I was not the only person let down by the HP. If I were buying an HP I would get an Elitebook 8540w or 8560p.

Envy 14 is half the price of the MBP 15" and half the computer IMO.

I work hard for my money so I buy stuff that makes me happy. I am not screwing around with junk anymore.

I was considering the 2010 MBP, but I went with the Envy 15, which is the only thin and portable laptop I'm aware of that can deliver decent frame rates for most recent games at 1920x1080 resolution, all detail settings maxed. The fact that it has 4 DIMMs and dual SSDs in Raid0 allows for great performance with CS5 apps, BD authoring and HD video encoding compared to most laptops. I've had it for about 12 months and so far no problems.

I'm not a fan of the Envy 14, which is thicker and heavier than the Envy 15 (due to the optical drive), and only offered these days with 1366x768 display and a ho-hum video card.

But on topic, is there anyone out there who can run some standard 1280x1024 3dmark scores for the 6750? I am considering one of the high end 15" as a gift for my little bro's upcoming b-day.

 

[Mealienprobeu]

SSD all the way

evidence that SSD gaming needs to be a priority.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2614/14


could anyone notice FPS changes with their ssd 2011 MBP? im thinking of just getting the 128 gig model ssd and upgrading later when the prices are cheaper. but where in these benchmarks (above link) would apples Samsung SSD slot in?

 

[billgates99]

evidence that SSD gaming needs to be a priority.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2614/14


could anyone notice FPS changes with their ssd 2011 MBP? im thinking of just getting the 128 gig model ssd and upgrading later when the prices are cheaper. but where in these benchmarks (above link) would apples Samsung SSD slot in?

interesting read, thanks for sharing this article. I had always thought that the only area where SSDs improve gaming is load times. Interesting to see there are benefits to minimum FPS in games with high res textures.

It seems they also make huge a difference is in heavily modded games with HD texture replacers. I have played a heavily modded version of Oblivion (150+mods with HD textures and graphics replacers) on my laptop and I wonder if perhaps the frame rate would not even have been playable without SSDs?