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My prognostication is that intel will release Sandy Bridge late January or early February.

Apple will wait 2 to 3 months before embracing the chipsets, meaning a potential May release date for an updated MBP.

During the time between intel releasing the chipset, and apple updating their line, tons of threads will be posted asking/complaining/whining about apple's next refresh. Those that complain will threaten to buy a Dell/HP/Asus if apple doesn't get its act toghether.

When they finally do update the MBP line, many people will complain about the update, or some minor facet stating that apple blew it and they're going to buy a Dell/HP/Asus laptop.
 
It will have the same display as the Air has. It will have a disk drive, the 13' will not get scrapped and it will likely have SB. It may have flash memory, but will still have a HD. I would expect the baseline model to move upto atleast a 320GB Hard Drive. It will be made to be able to run Lion as it will probs be the same model line up that Lion debuts on.

That I'm guessing will probs be it.
 
I may be alone here, but I want them to "Air-ize" the Pro, or to extend the Air line. I want a 3.5 pound 15" and 4.0 pound 17". Why does a big screen imply I'm going to be uber-heavy duty processing?

I couldn't give a hoot if it "doesn't look pro". What does that mean, anyway? You can never be too thin or too light!
 
yes, you can. I would dump apple if they got rid of a "pro" line. The gpu in the pros isn't good now, i can't imagine what they would put in there to be able to thin it out.

You are not the majority here.
If you want thin go for 13"
Do you know how hot the 15" pro gets as it is? if they did that it would fry itself, or they would have to take a major hit on specs.
 
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Apple's strategy yet probably for us consumers is not right, it does allow them to constantly have profitable financial quarters... Let me explain, They seem they never leak a product release, a timeframe for an upgrade or any honest speculations; plus they get very upset on their own forum boards if anyone speculates or guesses.

Let's say Apple leaked that an update was coming to the MacBook Pro line, MacBook Air line or even iPad line in the near future; let's say feb
 
The reason why they don't include the i3 at the moment is because it would tie them to Intel's crappy graphics chip (which is not only bad in terms of hardware but also has incredibly bad drivers).

Heat is not the big problem. The TDP of the i3 is lower than that of the C2D+320M. And besides: If Sony is able to pack a Core i7 into a 13" enclosure, why shouldn't Apple be able to do it with a much lower power CPU?

The MacBook Pro 13" is their best-selling computer, why the hell would they discontinue it? The 13" MacBook Air existed even before the 13" MacBook Pro came out, so that can't be a reason.

if they don't upgrade the mbp 13 with a better processor than why should they not discontinue it? it's only advantage over the air 13 is storage space.

But I'm confident that the 13 will get upgraded so it will not get discontinued.
 
if they don't upgrade the mbp 13 with a better processor than why should they not discontinue it? it's only advantage over the air 13 is storage space.

But I'm confident that the 13 will get upgraded so it will not get discontinued.

right but how will they deal with the loss of C2D for the MBA? unless they are planning an upgrade for the air too?-- so a prediction: how many computer will be built using the C2D processor if the C2D processors are being discontinued?
 
The reason why they don't include the i3 at the moment is because it would tie them to Intel's crappy graphics chip (which is not only bad in terms of hardware but also has incredibly bad drivers).

Heat is not the big problem. The TDP of the i3 is lower than that of the C2D+320M. And besides: If Sony is able to pack a Core i7 into a 13" enclosure, why shouldn't Apple be able to do it with a much lower power CPU?

The MacBook Pro 13" is their best-selling computer, why the hell would they discontinue it? The 13" MacBook Air existed even before the 13" MacBook Pro came out, so that can't be a reason.
the 320M is way better than the Intel IGP. OS X loves OpenCL which SB doesn't support therefore Apple must go with either the Green or Red team not only Intel. The VAIO Z is thick and has massive vents
The reason why Sony can cram i7 in their Z series is due to form factor. Vaio Z is considerably thicker than a MacBook Pro 13" It has some serious grills on the sides to allow heat to escape. The Z also has poorer battery life than MBP. But I agree if Vaio Z comes with Mac OS X, it is probably the best All Round laptop ever and I would gladly buy one myself. Apple needs to step up their game seriously.
I concur
 
so what do you guys think the chances of MBP coming out with OSX Lion is.. i mean them coming out together..

one has a rumored update of Feb-april.
the other OSX lion is rumored and confirmed by the Jobs to be Summer of '11?
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20021658-64.html

Light Peak is now on track to appear in products in the first half of 2011--and likely earlier in the year than later, according to an industry source

But Apple is expected to back Light Peak, if past comments from Intel still hold. Shortly after its annual developer conference in 2009, Intel said that it had showed the technology to third parties, got feedback, then incorporated the feedback into the next design, adding, at that time, that "Apple is an innovating force in the industry." (Apple has reportedly claimed that it conceived the idea for Light Peak.)

An Intel demonstration in 2009 at its developer conference used a machine running Apple's Mac OS X.




This all is some evidence showing that is is possible.
 
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This thread makes me laugh. Most likely they will not update until late spring just like the mid 2010 release to go along with lion. Everyone and there mom will be on the site creating threads and clogging up the site.

Someone should create an Unofficial I'm waiting for SB.
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20021658-64.html

Light Peak is now on track to appear in products in the first half of 2011--and likely earlier in the year than later, according to an industry source

But Apple is expected to back Light Peak, if past comments from Intel still hold. Shortly after its annual developer conference in 2009, Intel said that it had showed the technology to third parties, got feedback, then incorporated the feedback into the next design, adding, at that time, that "Apple is an innovating force in the industry." (Apple has reportedly claimed that it conceived the idea for Light Peak.)

An Intel demonstration in 2009 at its developer conference used a machine running Apple's Mac OS X.




This all is some evidence showing that is is possible.

Apple is always late in adopting new things. I agree with Hellhammer, not going to happen this coming revision.
 
Light Peak in early 2011 is as absurd as Blu-Ray

This thread makes me laugh. Most likely they will not update until late spring just like the mid 2010 release to go along with lion. Everyone and there mom will be on the site creating threads and clogging up the site.

Someone should create an Unofficial I'm waiting for SB.

Okay I just started learning about computers two years ago. I'm fifteen and don't know everything. So when is sandy bridge coming out and what the difference from sb to current i processors?

Apple is always late in adopting new things. I agree with Hellhammer, not going to happen this coming revision.

This at least shows some sort of collaboration between both entities has happened and more will ensue
 
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Like the gazillion of threads talking about the new MBPs for 2011.

No one knows but since intel won't be releasing sandy bridge until late January or February AND apple always seems to sit on the side lines for months. I wouldn't expect to see a new MBP on the sandy bridge platform until April or May.

I'd also not expect to see LightPeak as well, since apple has been playing it safe and not going the bleeding edge route.

Like almost every other update to the MBP, many people here will be complaining that apple did not go far enough with the update.

In the meantime we'll start seeing threads complaining about the lack of a refresh and people threatening to go to dell/hp/acer unless apple gets it act straightened out and updates the MBP
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20021658-64.html

Light Peak is now on track to appear in products in the first half of 2011--and likely earlier in the year than later, according to an industry source

"Intel demonstrated 10Gbps Light Peak at the IDF in San Francisco, the company said chips for the optical interconnect will be available in 2011 and the first computers with Light Peak could hit the market in 2012."

http://www.guru3d.com/news/intel-light-peak-arrives-in-2012/

Official statement by Intel > "industry source"
 
"Intel demonstrated 10Gbps Light Peak at the IDF in San Francisco, the company said chips for the optical interconnect will be available in 2011 and the first computers with Light Peak could hit the market in 2012."

http://www.guru3d.com/news/intel-light-peak-arrives-in-2012/

Official statement by Intel > "industry source"


Your article came out in September mine came out in November. Therefore mine has the higher probability.
 
I would settle for an i3 in a 13" MBP. (Will be buying next May).

As already stated, Apple is always late with cutting edge enhancements. With that in mind I'll just buy what's available and not worry about being too premature in my purchase.
 
I would settle for an i3 in a 13" MBP. (Will be buying next May).

As already stated, Apple is always late with cutting edge enhancements. With that in mind I'll just buy what's available and not worry about being too premature in my purchase.

I am buying around may as well
 
Your article came out in September mine came out in November. Therefore mine has the higher probability.
Well, what Hellhammer meant was that an official statement from Intel has more probability than an "industry source". I could for example make up an article that USB 5.0 will be launched in Jan 2011, and stating that it comes from an "industry source". You see my point?
 
Your article came out in September mine came out in November. Therefore mine has the higher probability.

Date means nothing if the source is not reliable. My source is Intel, the designer of Light Peak. Yours is just a random article in the Internet with no reliable proofs supporting it.

Why did Intel say late 2011/2012 if they knew it's going to be ready in early 2011? Usually companies are very happy to announce that something is shipping earlier than expected but so far we haven't seen an official statement from Intel that says early 2011.

Don't believe everything you read in the Internet. Of course it's possible that LP comes in early 2011 but so far the official schedule is late 2011/2012.
 
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