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Date means nothing if the source is not reliable. My source is Intel, the designer of Light Peak. Yours is just a random article in the Internet with no reliable proofs supporting it.

Why did Intel say late 2011/2012 if they knew it's going to be ready in early 2011? Usually companies are very happy to announce that something is shipping earlier than expected but so far we haven't seen an official statement from Intel that says early 2011.

Don't believe everything you read in the Internet. Of course it's possible that LP comes in early 2011 but so far the official schedule is late 2011/2012.

Intel also said

Light Peak components are expected to begin to become available to customers in late 2010, and Intel expects to see Light Peak in PCs and peripherals in 2011.

http://techresearch.intel.com/ProjectDetails.aspx?Id=143
 
That was the schedule before IDF 2010. There Intel delayed it to late 2011

http://www.neowin.net/news/intel-light-peak-coming-in-2011-to-succeed-usb-30 (old info)

Okay we have been arguing something for hours. It could happen but is improbable.

I have been trying to decide if I should buy the current mbp or wait till 2011 version. Need it by may and would use it for abelton photoshop school programming work web surfing and media. I want a laptop that will last me 3 years.
 
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I have been trying to decide if I should buy the current mbp or wait till 2011 version. Need it by may and would use it for abelton photoshop school programming work web surfing and media. I want a laptop that will last me 3 years.

So the safe thing as like 5 other threads already started? :rolleyes:
 
From specs point of view, the new one should always have higher specs than the old one. What I hoped is new macbook comes with different colors, at least two like black and white, there used to be black macbooks.
When I was buying my current MBP 13"(2009) I wanted by to a macbook, but there is only white.
 
Pretty much the new features that were in the Macbook Air. So, umm, lets see ... built in SSD? Maybe?
 

went to the site got this link;
http://t-gaap.com/2010/11/24/apples-march-special-event?site_locale=en

but i have one question:
in the last paragraph this is mentioned:
In the same manner that the MacBook air did not replace the traditional 13" MacBook Pro, Apple is likely to leave one legacy 15" design in the lineup for those not yet comfortable with Apple's new direction. The traditional model is likely to slot into the $1,799 position with upgrade options available, while the new MacBook Pros will start at $1,999 and scale up according to configuration.
does this mean the new MBP 15" will be 1999 or it will start at 1999? (13 inch)
 
Next Generation Hardware Predictions?

Post your own here, or comment on someone else's. These are my predictions on what the next MacBook Pro will have.

CPU
13" - i3 Sandy Bridge 2.2Ghz and 2.5Ghz
15" - i5 Sandy Bridge 2.5Ghz, 2.66Ghz and 2.8Ghz
17" - i7 Sandy Bridge 2.8Ghz and 2.66Ghz

RAM - 4GB or 8GB DDR3-1066 SO-DIMM

Graphics - I'm not sure.

Battery - boosted as usual

Storage - Here's the biggie. Apple will make the transition to SSD's, using multiple MBA SSD's to achieve high capacities. For example, 512GB will use 2 256GB cards, 320GB will use 1 256GB and 1 64GB cards.

Optical drive - SuperDrive, and if a SuperDrive-BD develops in time that will be in.

Dimensions - Slimmer, new stainless steel-aluminum alloy coated with nitride.

By the time the new MBP comes out, Intel will start supporting USB 3.0, so the new ones will have 2 USB 3.0 ports backwards compatible, and will retain the FireWire 800.

Will ship with Mac OS X Lion and iLife 11.
Prices will rise $100-200 overall.
 
13" MBP

Intel Core i3 (specs are unknown but I'd guess 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz)
Intel IGP or nVidia GF GT 415M/420M or ATI 6xxxM ("Seymour" based?) if optical drive is removed (possible even with ODD?)
4GB of RAM
320GB HD in low-end, 500GB in high-end

15" MBP

Intel Core i5-2520M in low-end, i5-2540M in mid-level and i7-2620M in high-end
Intel IGP + nVidia GF GT 425M/435M or ATI 6xxxM ("Whistler" based?)
4GB of RAM
500GB in low-end, 640GB in others

17" MBP

Intel Core i5-2540M with option for i7-2620M (maybe even for i7-27xxQE or i7-2xxQM?)
Same as in 15"
4GB of RAM
640GB

Possibly nVidia GF 5xxM if they are released before the update. I doubt there is space for SSD unless the ODD is removed, the logic board isn't that big. Battery life will remain pretty much the same or increase if ODD is removed. No changes in external design. No USB 3.0 since Intel doesn't support it.
 
13"
Core i3
Nvidia GT 415M/420M or low end AMD Mobility 6xx0 (probably Seymour)
4GB RAM
probably still HDD based 320GB or 500GB
Possibly dropping ODD

15"
Core i5-2520, Core i5-2540, Core i7-2620
Nvidia GT 425M/435M or AMD Mobility 6xx0 (probably Whistler)
4GB RAM
probably still HDD based 500GB or 640GB

17"
Intel Core i5-2540M, i7-2620M as upgrade
Nvidia GT 425M/435M or AMD Mobility 6xx0 (probably Whistler)
4GB RAM
probably still HDD based 500GB or 640GB

What I want
All drop ODD and come with an external Superdrive
13" moves to 2xSSD Stick starts at 256GB option for 512GB
15"/17" move to 4xSSD Stick starts at 512GB option for 1TB
RAID Controller in each MBP, by default set to RAID 0

for GPU I want a downclocked GT 445M or the AMD Mobility 6xx0M Equivalent of the 5830
 
13"
-i3 or i5
-256 gb ssd
--32 gb for os
-4 gb ram
-light peak
-FireWire
-higher resolution screen
-larger trackpad
 
2011 MBP rumors. Yea or nea

I think the new mbp rumors are weird. I like an optical drive. I want i processors. I want ssd. And light peak. But a 2k starting price. No way. What do yall think
 
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The optical drive must go. Its tying the whole machine's capability down and it takes up a ton of space inside a compact laptop. 90% of people barely ever use it, and could manage just fine with an external.
 
I don't want my computer to have seasonal affective disorder! And I won't judge you based on what computer part you love.


My guess, optical drive stays for 15"+ (not sure about 13"), USB 2 (yes 2) and the iX processors.
 
What I want
All drop ODD and come with an external Superdrive
13" moves to 2xSSD Stick starts at 256GB option for 512GB
15"/17" move to 4xSSD Stick starts at 512GB option for 1TB

If MacBooks Pro start to come with that kind of SSD used in Air, they'll no longer bem "Pro" MacBooks.
That new size of SSDs used in Air is made for specific laptops that really need every centimeter of space inside, and it's not the case of the Pro line.

If they don't let us use those normal 2,5" HD/SSD, I can assure you that Apple is going have a problem.
Most SSDs manufacturers don't make that kind of SSD used in Air, so everyoene would simply have to sell their SSDs because Apple wants you to use a new kind.

Well... I don't think this would be a smart move.
 
13" MBP

Intel Core i3 (specs are unknown but I'd guess 2.2GHz and 2.4GHz)
Intel IGP or nVidia GF GT 415M/420M or ATI 6xxxM ("Seymour" based?) if optical drive is removed (possible even with ODD?)
4GB of RAM
320GB HD in low-end, 500GB in high-end

15" MBP

Intel Core i5-2520M in low-end, i5-2540M in mid-level and i7-2620M in high-end
Intel IGP + nVidia GF GT 425M/435M or ATI 6xxxM ("Whistler" based?)
4GB of RAM
500GB in low-end, 640GB in others

17" MBP

Intel Core i5-2540M with option for i7-2620M (maybe even for i7-27xxQE or i7-2xxQM?)
Same as in 15"
4GB of RAM
640GB

Possibly nVidia GF 5xxM if they are released before the update. I doubt there is space for SSD unless the ODD is removed, the logic board isn't that big. Battery life will remain pretty much the same or increase if ODD is removed. No changes in external design. No USB 3.0 since Intel doesn't support it.

Basically this but

1440x900 13" standard
1650x1060 15" standard
17" same
 
The optical drive must go. Its tying the whole machine's capability down and it takes up a ton of space inside a compact laptop. 90% of people barely ever use it, and could manage just fine with an external.

In understand without an optical drive there is room for a better processor more memory and larger battery. But can it add on battery life and affect the power of the machine significantly from the current mbp models
 
I don't want my computer to have seasonal affective disorder! And I won't judge you based on what computer part you love.


My guess, optical drive stays for 15"+ (not sure about 13"), USB 2 (yes 2) and the iX processors.

That is all I see too. Nothing major coming for the MBP this year or before Q2/3 next year IMO. It doesn't make sense to upgrade GPUs and specs after a few months. I bought my first MBP in 2006 and that had a X1600. Then they released the 8600GT MBP then unibodies with 9600m GT now the 320/330m cards. All GPU in MBP were used for well over a year before being changed. I think the MBP 13 may even stay C2D until next year.

People seem to be getting really excited and thinking sandybridge is coming. Remember how long it took for Apple to start using C2D, I can remember waiting for a good 6 months after it was standard everywhere else before the MBPs got them. I think apple will be trying to get everything Xi core and who knows when intel and nvidia are going to sort their lives out.
 
I don't want my computer to have seasonal affective disorder! And I won't judge you based on what computer part you love.


My guess, optical drive stays for 15"+ (not sure about 13"), USB 2 (yes 2) and the iX processors.

I'd say that's pretty reasonable, nothing to argue there.

I do have to say that the 90% of people don't use the optical drive statistic is off. A lot of people watch (or rip) DVDs on their computers, and some of the games I play require that the disk be inserted to run it.
 
I don't want my computer to have seasonal affective disorder! And I won't judge you based on what computer part you love.


My guess, optical drive stays for 15"+ (not sure about 13"), USB 2 (yes 2) and the iX processors.

i like this idea.. i dont want the OD in the 13" as i plan to buy the 13" myself and for people who want the OD, they buy the 15 inch or the external drive..
does anyone know how Light Peak may work.. i know you can transfer files, but through which port and wire (if anyone knows)

i would assume taht light peak may find its way into the new MBPs and maybe the SSD ("the new kind of macbook") or maybe a hybrid..
 
If MacBooks Pro start to come with that kind of SSD used in Air, they'll no longer bem "Pro" MacBooks.
That new size of SSDs used in Air is made for specific laptops that really need every centimeter of space inside, and it's not the case of the Pro line.

If they don't let us use those normal 2,5" HD/SSD, I can assure you that Apple is going have a problem.
Most SSDs manufacturers don't make that kind of SSD used in Air, so everyoene would simply have to sell their SSDs because Apple wants you to use a new kind.

Well... I don't think this would be a smart move.

but do you think that SSDs would become default.. like not the air SSD's but the normal 2.5" ones..
 
If MacBooks Pro start to come with that kind of SSD used in Air, they'll no longer bem "Pro" MacBooks.
That new size of SSDs used in Air is made for specific laptops that really need every centimeter of space inside, and it's not the case of the Pro line.

If they don't let us use those normal 2,5" HD/SSD, I can assure you that Apple is going have a problem.
Most SSDs manufacturers don't make that kind of SSD used in Air, so everyoene would simply have to sell their SSDs because Apple wants you to use a new kind.

Well... I don't think this would be a smart move.

Toshiba makes them, that's enough for Apple. Why would you have to sell your SSD if the new computer already comes with an SSD? Besides, Apple doesn't care about that, they only want people to buy products from them, not from 3rd party.

Seriously, I can't see MBPs going SSD only. Sizes like 256GB and 512GB are way too expensive to be used in stock models without substantial price bump and I doubt 128GB is all you want from a 2000$ computer. It works in the Air because it has never had more than 128GB in the past and it's by many means a pretty limited computer but come on, even the MacBook comes with 250GB which is twice as much as 128GB.

What I can see, if there is space or the ODD is removed, is SSD stick + 2.5" HD combo. That way, 128GB or even 64GB SSD would be totally sufficient for OS X and apps and you would still have a 2.5" HD which can be up to 1TB for your other files. That's the only way Apple can deliver SSD to all/most models without sacrificing the amount of storage.

In addition, I don't think it's very practical to store all your data in a hefty-priced SSD because in many cases, you wouldn't notice the difference between SSD and HD. Okay, maybe your photo opens 0.1 seconds quicker but do you really want to pay hundreds of dollars for that? Even 512GB is not that big if you have big libraries so an external HD would be a must and that's even slower than an internal hard drive. With 2.5" HD, that is not the case. 1TB 2.5" HD can be had for 100$ or so. Similar sized SSD would cost more than the computer itself!

If Apple starts to use SSD stick in most Macs, I'm sure manufacturers start making their own SSDs for that form factor and other manufacturers may adopt the similar form factor into their computers as well. Until you can get spacious SSDs for reasonable price (maybe 512GB for less than 200$), I can't see SSDs going mainstream. That's why an SSD stick with an HD is the best route I can think of. You get the benefits of the SSD without compromising the amount of storage. 2.5" SSD + 2.5" HD is too big for most computer and to be honest, it's waste of space if an SSD stick can do the same.
 
In my opinion, you are underestimating the speed difference between SSD and HDD. My MBP boots in under 10 seconds with my SSD, SF-1222 controller. The spinning wheel literally only does a 720°. Done.

All of my apps load practically instantly (XSlimmer also helps). All of my plug-ins within Logic Studio and Reason also load instantly. I have never dropped my laptop, but with a SSD, the worry of losing my data from a impact like that is greatly reduced.

Computer also wakes from sleep in a snap. No spinup.
 
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