Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
is this sarcasm? clearly i5's are different than i7's by the number of cores. there arent extra cores in the i5 that they are disabling

Compare i7-2620M to i5s and the only difference is clock speeds and the amount of cache. In desktop CPUs i7 has HT while i5 does not. It was mainly sarcasm and to show that the i5 ain't that special as it's just an i7 with features removed.
 
Assuming the current price points all stay intact, what do you all think the 15" $2199 price point will look like spec-wise?
 
Assuming the current price points all stay intact, what do you all think the 15" $2199 price point will look like spec-wise?

Core i7-2620M and AMD 6600M/6700M or NVidia 525M would be my guess.

is the 4/8 CORE GOING TO WORK in 15"? or does it have too high TDP ?

We don't know yet. The TDP is higher than in current chips but Apple may improve the cooling to accommodate a quad core.
 
Is that CPU going to outperform the current i7 2.66GHz in any significant way?

Benchmarks show ~15% clock for clock improvement. This comparison should give you some idea as it compares two CPUs with similar clocks. We will have to wait for the dual core chips to arrive to see more results
 
Core i7-2620M and AMD 6600M/6700M or NVidia 525M would be my guess.

Will this mean we will begin to compare Mac with Windows computers when it comes to gaming?
I really hate my friends dissing the Mac because it currently can't be compared to any Windows laptop, and it would be great if I could enjoy some of my games on a fairly high resolution (1680x1050 e.g.).

Another question: one of my reasons to buy a Mac is the heat and noise level, but will heat and noise be a problem if these are the specc to be announced in the next gen? I heard the current models produce a pretty amount of heat compared to the older gens.
 
Will this mean we will begin to compare Mac with Windows computers when it comes to gaming?
I really hate my friends dissing the Mac because it currently can't be compared to any Windows laptop, and it would be great if I could enjoy some of my games on a fairly high resolution (1680x1050 e.g.).

Macs will never be as good as PCs when it comes to gaming. It's simply due to the fact that Apple doesn't market it for gamers while many other OEMs do. MBPs use mid-level GPUs and I doubt it will change. There will always be PCs with the high-end cards.

Another question: one of my reasons to buy a Mac is the heat and noise level, but will heat and noise be a problem if these are the specc to be announced in the next gen? I heard the current models produce a pretty amount of heat compared to the older gens.

Shouldn't be any change or if there will, it should be positive. People say all MBPs run hot but I wouldn't say so. The aluminum just acts as a conductor meaning that it will always be a bit warm
 
suppose we get a BTO option for quad core in the 17", no optical drive but dual hard drives with better battery life, and a higher end AMD gpu...

how much do you think apple would be charging for this? (excluding the outrageous price of their SSDs)

i just wanna make sure i have enough money for the most optimistically possible top of the line model, lol
 
Intel's naming system and the increasingly competitive Windows market may force Apple's hand. Last generation, all people had was "Core2duo" a model number and a clock speed with laptops. Brands like Dell used ignorance about the model number to promote high clock speed cpus with small amounts of cache and slow bus speeds but it worked. This generation, people have differential names i3, i5 and i7, so even if you don't understand the model number you can see that 7>5>3. As many people have said, there is a lot of advertising around for i5/i7 laptops at sub £1000 prices, so I think it would be a big mistake for Apple to have i3 processors on anything but the Air and MB. And looking at the Wikipedia Sandy Bridge table, there are only a few i5 chips that would go and the cpu speeds are 2.5 and 2.6 GHz - a 4% difference in clock speed. The other differentiators are graphics speed and turbo speed. If Apple try to be cheap and offer i3s across the lower end of the MBP range (13" and 15") I think they'll suffer.

I'm guessing that the MB will stay at 1280x800 and get an i3 cpu. The low end 13" MBP will get a screen update and mid-range (i.e. 2.5 GHz, fast graphics core) i5 (2520M). Given that the Intel graphics will be used, they can't go with a slower graphics unit than the MB. As for the high end 13" MBP, could we even see an i7 (2620M)? It would mean Apple taking the Pro name seriously and offering a small, but powerful laptop (for a price).

For the 15" MBPs, again a screen upgrade, probably starting with the "top" i5 cpu at the bottom level and an i7 (same 2620M?) at the higher end - probably with an SSD option too.
 
One question I keep asking myself, is, will Apple retain the current body design or modify it? What do you all think?
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-gb) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

If it isn't broke don't fix it......everyone loves the unibody.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-gb) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

If it isn't broke don't fix it......everyone loves the unibody.

That's what I'm hoping. I love my 2010 13". I want my 2011 to look just like it. :)
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; nb-no) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

So I think I have decided to switch from a 13 to a 15" mbp. I'f the speccs are right, with the next refresh.

I'm hoping for a the new i5 dual cores as standard for the standard 15". Anyone would guess what gpu we would see. Compared to the 330m in the current mbp.

Will we see fermi based mobile gpus or amd. And what do you think the performance increase will be compared to current 15" gpu
 
I dont think thats possible. If you take it all apart, the optical drive is already pretty thin.


Yeah I guess you right. But I was thinking could then possiblyake an the odd a standard part and let a made to order configuration get rid of it
 
Core i7-2620M and AMD 6600M/6700M or NVidia 525M would be my guess.
I think 6700M would be too good.

I know Apple is the only manufacturer where the small notebooks are cheaper than the big ones but I seriously doubt they would use i3 CPUs. If they want something slower they need to use i7 LV or something but i3 are not just the slower models anymore they are ones where intel cheaps out on all the good features. Even Apple cannot justify putting an i3 into a 1000+ $ notebook. LV maybe possible.
 
why are you upgrading after one year

Why NOT upgrade after a year? Mac resale values make this a totally feasible path to walk.

For me personally though. I'm going from 13" to 15". And C2D to i7. The 13" was a great introduction to this Mac world, and I'm ready to move my way up he chain a bit.
 
I think 6700M would be too good.

I know Apple is the only manufacturer where the small notebooks are cheaper than the big ones but I seriously doubt they would use i3 CPUs. If they want something slower they need to use i7 LV or something but i3 are not just the slower models anymore they are ones where intel cheaps out on all the good features. Even Apple cannot justify putting an i3 into a 1000+ $ notebook. LV maybe possible.

Explain me how would Apple market 15" MBP with i5 and 13" with i7... That would make no sense at all. Apple was able to justify putting a C2D into 13" in last update which is even slower than i3. They are fine with charging 1699$ for an iMac with i3. Why wouldn't they be fine with MBP?
 
Explain me how would Apple market 15" MBP with i5 and 13" with i7... That would make no sense at all. Apple was able to justify putting a C2D into 13" in last update which is even slower than i3. They are fine with charging 1699$ for an iMac with i3. Why wouldn't they be fine with MBP?

100% agreed. Core 2 Duo was fine and dandy for most folks and they sold a lot in 2010 (I bought one). i3 will be more than fine and dandy too. The majority of buyers don't know the difference between processor names, they just look at the GHz, and possibly the number of cores, if they care to even try to understand that much.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.