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Macbook pro dissapointment
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My deep condolences...
First, there are no solutions in my post for your issues. I'm just pitching in to show my support.
I'm sorry not for your disappointment on the product but for the "fanboys" that says go back to Windows.
Immediately after reading first page, I felt oh come on give him some rest. One thing I've consistently seen here, very rarely (there are some good users here) the users give a supportive reply when you say some issues about the apple products or compare it with PC products.
Come on guys, don't be proud in being the Apple products. They are also just another product, I understand that they are good in customer support and product support but give some space for people to share their opinions.
Why not "some" of them just help the OP or be polite in saying the solution....?????? Is this kind of capitalism with communism....???
First, there are no solutions in my post for your issues. I'm just pitching in to show my support.
I'm sorry not for your disappointment on the product but for the "fanboys" that says go back to Windows.
Immediately after reading first page, I felt oh come on give him some rest. One thing I've consistently seen here, very rarely (there are some good users here) the users give a supportive reply when you say some issues about the apple products or compare it with PC products.
Come on guys, don't be proud in being the Apple products. They are also just another product, I understand that they are good in customer support and product support but give some space for people to share their opinions.
Why not "some" of them just help the OP or be polite in saying the solution....?????? Is this kind of capitalism with communism....???
That's like buying the most expensive BMW cause it's fastest, best in it's class etc. only to find out it's not actually the fastest, and then saying well if you want it to be the fastest why not spend some more money and put in a second engine...
The whole point is when you spend that kind of money it should already be the best, you shouldn't have to spend more money and make changes just to bring it in line with what the competition is offering.
yes they do.
GET A DVI MONITOR!!!!
Same as above.
i've had mine for almost 6 months (3 macbook pros).. not a single scratch on a any of them. And I travel a lot.
no they are not. but that's personal preference i guess. the sony vaio i have is eaven farther apart. don't blame that on apple.
GET A USB HUB!!! and why are you using USB for external HD? USE FW800 or eSATA- much faster.
Stop whinning. It works great! btw. i'm a web designer/developer too. Designing a fortune 500 company corporate intranet solely on the Macbook Pros, and running 4 instances of virtual machines all at the same time for testing across different platforms/browsers.
I was almost on your side when reading through this thread, but this response confirms you are a troll and not just a lost windows convert. If you want the battery to be user swappable, dont you need to buy a second battery? Do you expect a pc maker to include a second battery for free? No one does that, and a backup battery from Apple would be more expensive than the universal solutions out there, and they dont require you to shutdown to swap. The non-replacable battery is a non-issue, especially if the built in lasts as long as claimed. And I find it hard to believe you want the best video quality available, but bought a VGA adapter? Cummon-man.
I am a Windows admin with an itch to try out the MAC world and browse these forums for research. It was fairly obvious to me that you did not install the Bootcamp drivers for Windows and expected the hardware to magically work. I dont even own a Mac yet
Your post made me register to reply that not only fanboys find you a little ridiculous.
Put a Ferrari in the hands of a fool, and it'll end up in the ditch. Driver error.
Yes, the machine is not smart enough to compensate for what the user is doing wrong.
Can you read? Because those are both things you would have known before buying the machine if you'd actually done any research. Whining about it after the fact only makes you look like an idiot - if they were dealbreakers, you wouldn't have bought the machine.
Your other complaints are issues that are easily resolved. Maybe you should start a thread about "why doesn't my iSight work in Windows?" instead of just whining.
Put a Ferrari in the hands of a fool, and it'll end up in the ditch. Driver error.
Yes, the machine is not smart enough to compensate for what the user is doing wrong.
I downloaded latest firware for display adapter, googled settings to death, took of mirror settings, got latest lcd drivers, display is sharper but still blurry.
It doesnt work at all in Windows - blank screen. I'm a software developer - not a noob, but you're right it must be user error cause it cant possible be Apple who's in the wrong here, ooooh no.
As I understand the definition of "Trolling," one should not post in order to anger other members or intentionally cause negative reactions.
What did I say to make you think I was trolling?
Obviously, the OP is using phrases to incite negative reactions. I was merely pointing out that there are ways to ask a question on forums to get an answer. He seems to be looking for a reaction, not an answer.
MacBook Pro - It is what it is.
This is the price. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. If it doesn't have the features you want, don't buy it. If you don't think it is a good value for the money, don't buy it.
It only has so many places to plug in a USB device. The battery is non-replaceable by the user. It comes with this style keyboard. It has this screen, it comes in this size, the case is this material, etc. If he doesn't like it, take it back within 14 days. There is NOTHING any of us can do about it, so why complain to us?
I think a valid question is, if he didn't like it, why did he buy it and why is he keeping it?
If he wants help to set it up, all he has to do is ask nicely. He doesn't need to insult us.
"Us"? You are identifying yourself with a brand so much that you take someone's issue with that brand personally. He doesn't know you nor did he ask your opinion on the matter. YOU chose to interject yourself and complain about his complaining. That is trolling more than what he is doing.
A lot of times you cannot find out if something is worth the cost without using it so it's not as simple as your arrogant replies claim.
The OP is upset...some of the stuff was his error in research and he knows it, some isn't his fault. The barrage from the Apple leg humpers is irritating and it's reasonable to be upset about it. Why in the world someone would be so immersed in a brand that they feel the need to defend it's honor is just without sense.
^^^ This x100. Using USB for an external hard drive is like using a drinking straw to fill your swimming pool. It's absolutely the slowest possible method. Heck, even the old Fw400 is considerably faster than USB2 for bulk data transfer.
Hahaha very well said.Put a Ferrari in the hands of a fool, and it'll end up in the ditch. Driver error.
Yes, the machine is not smart enough to compensate for what the user is doing wrong.
No matter what you do it will always be sub-optimal... DisplayPort is designed as a digital interconnect, and was never meant to be any good at VGA. The signal loss in the digital analog conversion process plus a rather poor converter (the Apple adapter) is causing all your woes, which is why others have said to use DVI instead.
The only problem is that there's a lot of older projectors out there with VGA hookups, and for that the best option might be to get a USB to VGA adapter instead.
So do you want us to commiserate with you and feed you a load of bullcrap? There's no point in telling you "lets hope Apple sorts it out" to make you feel better when everyone here knows that they're not going to.
Apple's not going to be adding any more USB ports to the MBP anytime soon.
Apple's not changing back to replaceable batteries anytime soon.
Apple's not going to change the aluminum cases anytime soon.
Apple's not going to charge less for their VGA adapter anytime soon.
Apple's not going to lower the price tag of the MBP anytime soon.
And honestly, you're asking for input on "but in the meantime, here's what you can do...", but most of the time when people give you a recommendation, you push back with "I shouldn't have to do that on a $2400 notebook".
So if you're really not interesting in workarounds, you don't believe that you should have to pay top dollar for a machine that obviously doesn't work for you, then an obvious solution is to return the machine.
I don't really have anything to add in terms of addressing the OPs concerns - other than what has already been suggested - but after reading through this thread, I don't think I could have summed up my feelings any better than that one segment.
I think we all get you're disappointed/angry/etc and while some people have offered sarcasm or been snippy, the suggestions that should have been useful have been met with the exact reaction that aristobrat mention (at least in my opinion). It doesn't really provide any incentive for people to help you if you seem to fall back on saying that an expensive laptop shouldn't need that.
Macs are NOT perfect by any means. But from personal experience they are best for what i do and what i want to achieve. My End (websites/Interactive DVDS/photographs/videos/etc) totally justifies the means (Macs and PC's)
I know what the faults/inabilities are before purchasing them and don't whine about them after the fact.
If there are physical problems I just take it to Apple store, they either fix it or replace it on the spot.
I have 6 Macs and 6 Windows boxes and 2 Ubuntu boxes. I make them do what I want them to do. And get my work done instead of whining about them.
Be productive, not negative. That's my motto.
DVI. Works beautifully. No complaints here. Get a dvi monitor.
You won't regret it. Just sell your old one, mow some lawns if you
have to. Mine was only 160$, 22". Pin sharp.
I can though understand your frustration (OP) when something
doesn't work out. Sucks that your display is blurry. : (
DVI is the way to go, and I got my adapter off Amazon for 5 bucks.
Well.. like 9 shipped.
You won't regret it. Just sell your old one, mow some lawns if you
have to. Mine was only 160$, 22". Pin sharp.
I can though understand your frustration (OP) when something
doesn't work out. Sucks that your display is blurry. : (
DVI is the way to go, and I got my adapter off Amazon for 5 bucks.
Well.. like 9 shipped.
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To be fair, Apple provide a lot of details about their Macs online and instore. As for Windows running on a Mac, Apple DO NOT support running Windows but provide drivers so you can. If they work or not is a different kettle of fish.
So if you paid for it without looking at what you were buying, more fool you
So if you paid for it without looking at what you were buying, more fool you
It's not going to work in Windows unless you install the bootcam drivers from the OS X Install CD that came with your MacBook.
Would you expect a PC laptop to fully work if you installed Windows as a clean install and then didn't install any drivers?
Yes, the keys are spaced out the same as every other computer, but they just look different because they don't slope down to fill the gap, which is why you think there is a massive space between them...
Hmmm . . . I trust that the OP eventually is able to work through the issues. Needless to say, it is always quite disheartening to run into unexpected road blocks. Good luck!