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We'll only know the 'truth' when history reveals it to us.

Now that's got to be a Chinese proverb right? :p
Yes, but 'history was written by winners'. By the way, this is a 'rumor' website. At least in Chinese, ' has 2 usage, first is to say the opposite, second is to stress. Cause my computer cannot run itunes, i'm probably more happy to see the good side, while, i can't.
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Sorry, but i cannot read your words? Is it relevant?
 
Yes, but 'history was written by winners'. By the way, this is a 'rumor' website. At least in Chinese, ' has 2 usage, first is to say the opposite, second is to stress. Cause my computer cannot run itunes, i'm probably more happy to see the good side, while, i can't.

It was only a little joke from me, I wasn't expecting a philosophy lecture or a grammar lesson. But thanks anyway.
 
I still don't have any movement and my window is 2-3 weeks but 18-25 November delivery for some reason... So I guess you guys will come after whenever I get updated? (Hopefully tonight)
Fingers crossed for your status change. You have BTO 13" as I remember, and same config like me... 2,9, 16/ 512?
 
Fingers crossed for your status change. You have BTO 13" as I remember, and same config like me... 2,9, 16/ 512?
Yeah, I also have an international english keyboard, I'm not sure if you have the same thing. I just saw someone yesterday in Germany with the exact same config as mine get their P4S... Although their delivery window was 16-24, while mine is two days later... It's frustrating to see that two days apparently make a difference.
 
Apparently U.S. folks got their MBP shipped 2 days after PFS date then 2-3 days to be delivered. Judging by this (As we didnt see Shipped status today, possibly China is where our MBP sits now) We will see some Shipped updates tomorrow and on Friday. Tuesday/Wednesday will be the day of joy.
 
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Apparently U.S. folks got their MBP shipped 2 days after PFS date then 2-3 days to be delivered. Judging by this (As we didnt see Shipped status today, possibly China is where our MBP sits now) We will see some Shipped updates tomorrow and on Friday. Tuesday/Wednesday will be the day of joy.

Yes, but that was the first wave. P4S will change sooner this time i think. There is nothing Apple has to wait for.
 
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Apparently U.S. folks got their MBP shipped 2 days after PFS date then 2-3 days to be delivered. Judging by this (As we didnt see Shipped status today, possibly China is where our MBP sits now) We will see some Shipped updates tomorrow and on Friday. Tuesday/Wednesday will be the day of joy.

If i am correct, there was a weekend between the PFS and SHIPPED status. So that could have caused an extra delay.
With my iPhone order: 19th around 17:00 (GMT+1) PFS status and 20th around 15:30 (GMT+1) SHIPPED status.
But that was from Eindhoven off course. ...
 
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Hey guys, regarding to apple I got new information on my order placed on 31.oct (MBP 13, Stock, 128GB, 2,9Ghz)

- Apple ships from oversea
- 4-5 weeks (for me), estimated delivery between 5-9 dec
- pre-charge was successfull (1€)
- pre-charge of the full amount a few days before shipping
- final-charge on the day it gets into the parcel network of UPS/DHL/etc
- NO Express options (as in some other threads already mentioned)

:)
 
Reseller stores have apple accounts and when they order, they see the estimate delivery date frame. The ordering is almost the same as with normal customer account, but of course with different prices among other things.
Weird. They told me they had absolutely no idea for estimates. In fact the manager himself kept repeating it cause he wanted it to be really clear. They don't even have the 13" non-TB versions in Greece. Do they have em in Bulgaria?
 
Hi Guys,

I'm lurking this forum for a while. I also have ordered a new MacBook Pro 15" stock version (31oct) estimate delivery 5-9 dec.

Payed by iDEAL. So no charging on cc or something like it. With earlier orders i noticed that i didn't even got a prepare for shipping notice but I only got a message when it was send. Probably i'll have to wait a few more weeks. But as it is a stock version I was hoping that it would arrive a little earlier then 5 december.

I'm located in the Netherlands by the way.
 
Hey guys, regarding to apple I got new information on my order placed on 31.oct (MBP 13, Stock, 128GB, 2,9Ghz)

- Apple ships from oversea
- 4-5 weeks (for me), estimated delivery between 5-9 dec
- pre-charge was successfull (1€)
- pre-charge of the full amount a few days before shipping
- final-charge on the day it gets into the parcel network of UPS/DHL/etc
- NO Express options (as in some other threads already mentioned)

:)
Just to be absolutely sure: They will ship from the US?
 
There is no UPS flight from Hong Kong today. Next UPS flight is 11:20 HKT (Dubai -> Cologne -> Philadelphia). In Germany (-7h) it is 04:20. So our Macbooks can fly earliest tomorrow Morning at 04:20. The plane is landing after 13h+time in Dubai at around 18:00 in Cologne. If UPS is not total slow, than a delivery on Friday is possible. But i think Monday is our day...

Am i wrong?
 
We've missed the cut off for Friday delivery unfortunately. So the earliest it will be now is Monday.
 
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