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There is no UPS flight from Hong Kong today. Next UPS flight is 11:20 HKT (Dubai -> Cologne -> Philadelphia). In Germany (-7h) it is 04:20. So our Macbooks can fly earliest tomorrow Morning at 04:20. The plane is landing after 13h+time in Dubai at around 18:00 in Cologne. If UPS is not total slow, than a delivery on Friday is possible. But i think Monday is our day...

Am i wrong?

Yes, you don't know if it will be transported to Europe by UPS. Just because it was the case for US people, it doesn't mean it's the same for EU. In the past, Apple also used chartered air freight.
 
Weird. They told me they had absolutely no idea for estimates. In fact the manager himself kept repeating it cause he wanted it to be really clear. They don't even have the 13" non-TB versions in Greece. Do they have em in Bulgaria?
There is no logic not to know the estimates. If they order with reseller/retailer account, even with normal customer account, they will see the date range just as any customer will see them when he order.
I think there are no in store quantities in Bulgaria as well, but you can place order in any apple reseller and they will order and deliver whatever you want.
Maybe your reseller is waiting for delivery from third party, not directly from Apple.
 
Yes, you don't know if it will be transported to Europe by UPS. Just because it was the case for US people, it doesn't mean it's the same for EU. In the past, Apple also used chartered air freight.

Yes, possible. There ist another flight from Singapore Airlines Cargo at 05:00 HKT (Est 06:30). If delivery is done by UPS, that is the only flight to Cologne (UPS air hub)tomorrow. This flight is direct, so the MacBooks would arrive much earlier.
But it is highly unlikely ...

As alternative we have a "AeroLogic" flight at 05:35 HKT (22:35 in Germany, today) which might be possible for DHL delivery. Aerologic is ja joint venture of DHL (Express) and Lufthansa.
 
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+1 - they also went to PFS before us.

Yeah, we'll see about that, nobody really knows this and by now I distrust pretty much every theory, pretty much nothing has been right so far. It also does not really matter whether they will be sent out today or tomorrow, it will be next week for us anyways, in which case I could not really care less.

I've gone through like 50 levels of excitement since it started looking like some people were even getting theirs early and it turned out that would only be US people, so by now I am kind of exhausted.
 
I know some Singaporeans got PFS at the same time as the very first batch of Americans. They didn't ship at the same time though. So it was a long wait on PFS for them.

But there are also people who get in one day from P4S to "shipped"... so we don't know until it happens...
 
My last (unlikely) hope is that they were already shipped in bulk to Europe and that they'll come from there to us this week. Other than that I agree with @alexanderjulo
[doublepost=1479307303][/doublepost]Plus the more I read about them, the more I'm feeling underwhelmed by them, especially in regards to the battery life
 
My last (unlikely) hope is that they were already shipped in bulk to Europe and that they'll come from there to us this week. Other than that I agree with @alexanderjulo
[doublepost=1479307303][/doublepost]Plus the more I read about them, the more I'm feeling underwhelmed by them, especially in regards to the battery life
I wont be too worried about battery life for now. Will take the machine a couple of days for properly indexing everything. It gets better in a few days time.
 
But there are also people who get in one day from P4S to "shipped"... so we don't know until it happens...
True, but if they are in China, it is too late to get here by Friday now. It's nearly 11PM in China. Even if Apple chartered a flight it wouldn't be that late. The only hope is they are already somewhere in Europe but I highly doubt it.
 
I wont be too worried about battery life for now. Will take the machine a couple of days for properly indexing everything. It gets better in a few days time.
Yeah I'm not going to make any rash decisions, especially as we are in the holiday returns period in case I really find it's bad after a few weeks use.

I ordered a 13" but after seeing everyones 15s, I'm quite jealous! Might have to make a change if I go down that route
 
Yeah I'm not going to make any rash decisions, especially as we are in the holiday returns period in case I really find it's bad after a few weeks use.

I ordered a 13" but after seeing everyones 15s, I'm quite jealous! Might have to make a change if I go down that route

It's really amazing, because they arrive so late we can play with them forever and even wait until they are readily available and then just return the first one if we don't like it and just get a different version. Super excited!
 
Just putting in my two EU cents.

13" BTO - 16 / 512 / 2.9 / US keyboard to Berlin, DE. Originally ordered seconds after the store opened and had a delivery window of 16-23, but for whatever reason, the Apple Store app didn't save my keyboard selection (US). Luckily I noticed a few days later and cancelled and reordered the next morning. That reorder delay cost me a week though, now waiting 24th-1st.

No charge, no movement. To be expected though...
 
So they are available in some stores and us, the early shoppers, get them later.
f*** you apple. This will be my last device. You got so much money by me and your directions are going down the drain.
 
So they are available in some stores and us, the early shoppers, get them later.
f*** you apple. This will be my last device. You got so much money by me and your directions are going down the drain.

Sad thing is, I just sat 20min in front of a windows machine of a colleague. Applications were hanging, error reports wanted to be sent and all the **** I'm not missing. So basically Apple can **** with me however they like, I won't go back to this hell for sure.
 
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