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the longer the wait, the more possibility of a major revision. I hope it doesnt come until this summer
I suppose we could continue that reasoning to the extreme. If it doesn't come out for a few more years, it's gonna be one amazing MacBook Pro!

I think the primary reason they need a new model is that people are postponing purchases because of the elapsed time since the last major revision.
 
I suppose we could continue that reasoning to the extreme. If it doesn't come out for a few more years, it's gonna be one amazing MacBook Pro!

I think the primary reason they need a new model is that people are postponing purchases because of the elapsed time since the last major revision.

I'm not sure what the majority opinion on this is (and that seems like a reasonable estimation), but the reason why I am waiting, is because the current generation of the MBP is no longer cost effective for what you get with it. When you can purchase an XPS with the exact same specifications (although albeit: without the matte screen) for about 800 dollars less, I personally don't see it as cost effective. With the penryn upgrade, it closes the gap between the competition and makes it seem more cost effective (I'm willing to spend more on an apple product that looks nicer and can run OSX, but I'm not going to spend 800 dollars more to get it)
 
I am still using my old Pismo. What a great computer. I bought it in 2001 just after the G$ powerbook was released. I dashed down the shop and paid Aus$4,000 when the new machine was over Aus$6,000, by fluke I bought what was probably the best laptop Apple made. I upgraded it two years ago with bigger HD and more RAM and it still performs well. The DVD drive was terrible and the batteries haven't worked for at least three years. Unfortunately it is now classed as "vintage", the G3 doesn't run the latest software, and the screen is getting very very dark. Time to upgrade.

I have been waiting for the new MBP since last July when I heard about Penryn.

A lot of discussion and in many ways I think you are all right. I suggest a release in the next 4-6 weeks for a Penryn upgrade.

Here in Bali you cannot buy a Macbook Pro other than the very base model. They are all sold out. None are coming in from Singapore which suggests that there is no stock all over South East Asia.

They won't release until they are ready and the logistics are huge. They have to run down existing stocks all over the world and they have to have new stocks all distributed and ready to go.

They won't release next week because it's too close to the Macbook Air and they won't release on the 12th because that is the birthday of the Sultan of Brunei's favourite dog (Fido assured me it would be late Feb or early March).

No this won't be a major upgrade but they have to get the Penryn out to keep the Macbook competitive with all the other dark side machines that now have 45nm chips.

Technology companies have to have a constant stream of new innovations so they can keep bringing out new models and keep a carrot in front of the buyers. They would be foolish to use all their carrots at once.

Montevena will be the next generation Macbook later in the year.

Pismo G3 500 Mhz
Macmini G4
 
I'm not sure what the majority opinion on this is (and that seems like a reasonable estimation), but the reason why I am waiting, is because the current generation of the MBP is no longer cost effective for what you get with it. When you can purchase an XPS with the exact same specifications (although albeit: without the matte screen) for about 800 dollars less, I personally don't see it as cost effective. With the penryn upgrade, it closes the gap between the competition and makes it seem more cost effective (I'm willing to spend more on an apple product that looks nicer and can run OSX, but I'm not going to spend 800 dollars more to get it)

Absolutely, that is exactly how I've been looking at it. I simply cannot justify the extra cost just for OSX and a brush aluminum case. People don't seem to understand, though, calling us idiots for always wanting to have the latest and greatest. It's not that, I just don't want to ever feel like I've gotten a bad deal that that's exactly how I would have felt the last 5 months I've been waiting, had I caved in and bought a MacBook Pro.


Technology companies have to have a constant stream of new innovations so they can keep bringing out new models and keep a carrot in front of the buyers. They would be foolish to use all their carrots at once.

Good analogy. ;)
 
:apple::apple::apple:whoever updates to penyron 1rst gets my vote: alienware or mbp. apple has osx and a sexy case on its side, alienware has blueray and 8800m gtx and hr 15" and dual hdds on its side and crappy vista working against it. i'm leaning towards alienware now; but i really wish steve would consider putting real hardware in mbps so i can get osx.

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I'm getting sick of this. Is everyone just guessing a date? Everyone knows an update is due, and what hardware should probably be included in the updated. But I'm to the point where it seems all these 'sources' are just people making a guess and passing it around.

This could turn into the Mac Pro update doldrums. We knew what new processors and gfx cards that could have been added, as well as ram and hdd needing to stay current. We knew these updates HAD to com, yet a year and a half later, they still hadn't. Could it be the MBP's turn to wait till Montevenia, or even till 4 core mobile procs get released a lot later? Apple sure is finicky and I don't like the foreboding sense the wait is giving me.

I agree. I'm getting so tired of waiting, checking the latest "predictions" which are just getting to be random dates now. I'm holding out until Feb. 12, and if no update by then, I'm pulling the trigger. I can't wait any longer than that.
 
Well as a PC user looking to switch, I can honestly say i'm Mac crazy now. In all the years i've owned a PC, I've never been caught up in this much mayhem. Its unreal. Now you all have me waiting lol.

First I was gonna get a Mac Min, then a Mac Pro, then a MBP, then a Mac Pro, now that i've decided on a notebook............boom !! I'm have been freaking waiting since December and I've never had a Mac before !! I wish I never found these forums lol.
 
I looked on bestbuy.ca and HP laptops now come with blu-ray drives. The mbp update had better come with more than multitouch. From now till then I'm sure we're going to hear every release date possible but personally I've been waiting too long and I'm tired of waiting. I just got a new PC notebook to tide me over until apple updates to nehalem with a 45nm architecture...sometime 2009

Sorry steve, you took too long!
 
Well as a PC user looking to switch, I can honestly say i'm Mac crazy now. In all the years i've owned a PC, I've never been caught up in this much mayhem. Its unreal. Now you all have me waiting lol.

First I was gonna get a Mac Min, then a Mac Pro, then a MBP, then a Mac Pro, now that i've decided on a notebook............boom !! I'm have been freaking waiting since December and I've never had a Mac before !! I wish I never found these forums lol.

LOL me 2! i'vve never even really used OSX@@!!!!
 
Sorry guys ::eek:, all this is my fault. Usually, new updates arrived the day after I place an order and received the new toy... :mad: since I didn't place any MBP order so far, the update/new version of MBP cannot be released... :( it's Murphy's law and you can't go against it. So here is the point, I know that all of you are tired of waiting, what about sending me money thru paypal so I could place an order of the old MBP ? That way the update will arrive the day after I received it. :p The sooner the better !!!

Wow I just realized why it hasn't rained in Texas. I haven't washed my car! I'm so sorry Texas..Thanks for the guilt Marion!!
 
APPLE WILL NEVER DROP THE PRICE ON PRO MACHINES!!!

Sorry, just repeating what I've heard a few ppl on these forums say in this kind of tone since I've been here:D

The Ti powerbook 15" G4 w/ super drive that I bought in 2003 was $2999 U.S. You can get the 17" MBP for $2799 ( all this w/o tax of course) More for your money for less now.. but not much less. I concure with akadmon that Apple will never drop the Price on the Pro so start saving peeps!
 
What are the benefits of an 17 inch screen?

awesome i am waiting for the mbp update as well. i really wanted the Macbook Air but alas there was no firewire and that dreams dashed. i need the firewire for the apogee duet interface that links with the Logic software. yeah...so now i am actually holding out for the 17 inch MBP. whaddaya think?

And what are the benefits of an 17 inch screen?
 
i prayed at the church of apple and heard a voice say

" if they build it......it will come"


AMEN

let us pray.
 
Like most of you I'm starting to get the idea that, most/all of these sites are just guessing when the new MBP comes out.

But on the other hand secrecy leads to speculation, don't forget that.

But like you I can't wait till they do release the new MBP's. I sold mine hoping they would introduce them at the Keynote, ha jokes on me I guess.

Maybe they'll introduce alongside the new Aperture 2. That would make sense.

Can't wait Apple my money is burning a hole in my pocket
 
:)

Well as a PC user looking to switch, I can honestly say i'm Mac crazy now. In all the years i've owned a PC, I've never been caught up in this much mayhem. Its unreal. Now you all have me waiting lol.

First I was gonna get a Mac Min, then a Mac Pro, then a MBP, then a Mac Pro, now that i've decided on a notebook............boom !! I'm have been freaking waiting since December and I've never had a Mac before !! I wish I never found these forums lol.

same with me
:p
 
I am still using my old Pismo. What a great computer. I bought it in 2001 just after the G$ powerbook was released. I dashed down the shop and paid Aus$4,000 when the new machine was over Aus$6,000, by fluke I bought what was probably the best laptop Apple made. I upgraded it two years ago with bigger HD and more RAM and it still performs well. The DVD drive was terrible and the batteries haven't worked for at least three years. Unfortunately it is now classed as "vintage", the G3 doesn't run the latest software, and the screen is getting very very dark. Time to upgrade.

I have been waiting for the new MBP since last July when I heard about Penryn.

A lot of discussion and in many ways I think you are all right. I suggest a release in the next 4-6 weeks for a Penryn upgrade.

Here in Bali you cannot buy a Macbook Pro other than the very base model. They are all sold out. None are coming in from Singapore which suggests that there is no stock all over South East Asia.

They won't release until they are ready and the logistics are huge. They have to run down existing stocks all over the world and they have to have new stocks all distributed and ready to go.

They won't release next week because it's too close to the Macbook Air and they won't release on the 12th because that is the birthday of the Sultan of Brunei's favourite dog (Fido assured me it would be late Feb or early March).

No this won't be a major upgrade but they have to get the Penryn out to keep the Macbook competitive with all the other dark side machines that now have 45nm chips.

Technology companies have to have a constant stream of new innovations so they can keep bringing out new models and keep a carrot in front of the buyers. They would be foolish to use all their carrots at once.

Montevena will be the next generation Macbook later in the year.

Pismo G3 500 Mhz
Macmini G4

Cheers on the Pismo...I killed mine this year with a drunk stomp. The LCD is ****ed but the rest is still strong as ever. I can remember editing on Final Cut Pro on this machine–the first laptop with firewire––6gb hard drive...a 40gb external was HUGE.
 
I am still using my old Pismo. What a great computer. I bought it in 2001 just after the G$ powerbook was released. ...

Ah, the Pismo. What a terrific machine. I bought mine way back in April of 2000, and used it day in and day out for 7 years! And it would still be useable if I could get the power switch to make contact. Truly one of the all-time great Macs!
 
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