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MacBook Pro Now Available With Nano-Texture Display for First Time
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Glad to see the return of the matte display; ever since MBPs went glossy-only I've had to get these stupid matte "screen protectors" off Amazon to deal with the glare. Yeah, they're not great, but at least I can see what's on the display.
Now if only I'd waited, instead of buying my M3 MBP a few months ago...
Now if only I'd waited, instead of buying my M3 MBP a few months ago...
I've benn using an M1 Pro Macbook Pro for the past 2 years and a half and have 0 scratches on the screen. I take care of it and often clean it with a wipe, once a week.
That's not entirely true. What we usually think of as matte, like notebook paper, is close to Lambertian reflectance, where the reflected energy per solid angle in all directions is about the same. It's hard to get truly Lambertian-- the nano-texture I think does a better job at that than we've seen before. And it's been done in a way that doesn't negatively impact the other anti-reflective coatings so there's better transmission through the glass.
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No, no the part you just quoted was replying to the idea you put forth that there could be some sort of scattering that is better than “average glare” (ie: somehow more effective than all angles in all directions).
The only way to do that is with complex directional scattering which pushes more light away from the viewer than toward (again from all different angles), which is effectively impossible for this application.
So it’s not any sort of better scattering (no such thing possible). Just a brighter screen overpowering the average glare.
Ok, I'm not sure we're defining "average glare" the same way, but I'm pretty sure we have a common understanding of the end result (which is marvelous). I do think nano-texture is a better quality matte display than the older technologies used to be, all well within the limits of physics, but in the end it's the result that matters.
When I receive my M4 "nano textured" (Apple being Apple with the names) , I will be able to tell. Until then, it´s arsubd to waste time on this matter.
Quick question: I understand that the mate option reduces contrast a bit for media, but for purely text work - coding, reading, etc - does it reduce sharpness or impact it in any meaningful way? Thanks!
I´m simply delighted. No change in colors or brightness, but matte rules.
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It´s really a pain in the ass. Forget about using only the cloth it includes, you will have to use alcohol even for the lightest stains.
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I just went to an Apple Store and compared 2 mbp m4, 1 nano textured and 1 normal, with a picture showing white clouds. What I notices is that the nano texture screen is grainy : The grains remain in place when moving the pictures, so they are clearly inside the display and not on the picture. On normal display with same picture I didn't see the grains.
Interesting to get all of your views on nano-texture. Haven't used matte since the early 2010s, when I had a strong preference for it. But in the last dozen years, daily content consumption has shifted to more and higher-resolution images and video, so my foggy memories aren't so useful in making a modern decision. As a practical matter, I often use my glossy Intel MBP ('18) on the train, and when I'm sitting right by the window, depending on the time of day, I'm usually doing lots of angle shifting on my lap to make the screen readable, even with brightness maxed out. Guess I'll have to roll into the AppleStore to see for myself.
I´m delighted with it. I work with two Apple Displays 30" matte displays. A pain in the ass when I switched to the Macbook Pro 16" M1. Even, many times I prefered to work on my Macbook Pro 17" matte display 2011.
Really don´t care to much that the M4 is more powerfull, really don´t need so much power regarding to the M1, but that matte display is so so nice.
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Went into the Osaka Apple Store a few nights ago. Saw the nano texture and glossy side by side; fell in love with the nano texture! Planning to hold on to my next laptop for at least five years. Now the big issue is whether to go with the base-level MBP M4 or go up to the Pro, under the assumption that having the Thunderbolt 5 is valid future-proofing...
I just received my MBP 14" with nano-texture. Oh my, to say this is the best display I ever used is a bit of an understatement.
I see absolutely no issues with black-on-white text (like right now, on macrumors, in the light theme), and the display is less reflective than the wooden table I'm sitting at. The nano-texture does indeed give it a bit of an e-paper look, which I haven't seen in a display before - not in my previous MacBooks, not in (normal) iPads, nor in NEC photography monitors.
I probably am just very excited right now by the new display, and will see some downsides in the next days, but not having the glare in my eyes makes this the easiest displays on my eyes I've ever used, and I'm very happy about it.
I see absolutely no issues with black-on-white text (like right now, on macrumors, in the light theme), and the display is less reflective than the wooden table I'm sitting at. The nano-texture does indeed give it a bit of an e-paper look, which I haven't seen in a display before - not in my previous MacBooks, not in (normal) iPads, nor in NEC photography monitors.
I probably am just very excited right now by the new display, and will see some downsides in the next days, but not having the glare in my eyes makes this the easiest displays on my eyes I've ever used, and I'm very happy about it.
Being washed out was probably more a function of it likely being a crappy TN panel back in 2010 and nothing to do with being matte.
If you're basing your assessment of the nano-texture display on experience from a 15 year old low-end (720p) DELL laptop display, you're simply totally uninformed.