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Oh dear. Just another thing to plug in and carry around all because the thickness of a 13" macbook is set in stone and must not be changed. If other manufacturers can squeeze an i series chip, od and a graphics chip in their 13" systems then I don't see why Apple can't. If Apple was to remove the od then if anything they will probably go even thinner so what else would go to make this happen? And would the price of an od'less system come down or would buyers still be expected to pay similar prices for less function and still have to buy an od on top of that? Personally if its all too much for Apple I think they should just get rid of the 13" macbook/pro keep the 11" and 13" airs and make affordable 15" notebooks. That way we can have graphic chips AND optical drives. By the way I for one don't see how not having an od makes a pro machine more pro. Also why should people buying Apple Macbook/Pros at a lower price point be penalised by not having optical drives when the just about all consumers bar netbook and air purchasers do have built in od.

Do you carry around a 5 1/4 floppy drive and punch card reader?
 
... In Apple did in fact remove the ODD, which I think is a fantastic idea, it would allow for them to make the machine even more different than the macbook air, not more the same.
~Peace

I agree. I sure hope Apple would include in the new generation of MBP a SSD/HDD hybrid system like the one in the 27" iMac models. A 64GB SSD for quick launch in addition to a 500GB HDD, or even 1TB solution in a slim 13" unibody would compel me to upgrade from my current 13". If Sandy Bridge GPU can match the older 9400, I am still a happy camper since I don't play games, and the 9400 is adequate for playing 1080p HD videos of all kinds. I would love a spacious HDD to carry all 24GB of music, and 400GB of movies (and counting fast) :)

If MBA 13" has such storage solutions, or offer a 500GB SSD BTO, I would have bought that in a heartbeat last year.
 
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I can't remember the last time I used a CD/DVD on my MBP. Oh right, it was to install Snow Leopard. Don't know what I would do without it! What's a USB stick?
Unfortunately not everyone has access to unlimited internet. For those of us that don't have it, using DVDs to watch movies is still important. Anyway using optical media you can get higher quality video than iTunes provides.
 
Two weeks is too soon. Apple likes to wait a year before adopting technology so that they can get it cheaper and make more profit. Plus they think the average user doesn't need that newer chip technology. And Apple knows best. But if you were to put that into an iPhone, they'd be all over it. ;)
 
Yay! A bonafide Mac Rumor.

Didn't Steve Jobs say that 2011 was going to be a year for the Mac? If so, then why is it all I ever see 90% of the time are iOS rumors and announcements? :rolleyes:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Steve Jobs (especially in his current unknown medical problem state) cannot possibly keep up with both iOS products and keep the Mac in a healthy competitive state. He needs to hand the Mac division over to someone that actually gives a flying leap about the Macintosh lines and OSX proper.

When is the last time we heard a single word about Lion? Are we ever going to see OpenGL 4.x? When will the Mac lines get with 2008 (let alone 2011) and offer SLI type graphics options? How about USB3 (let alone Light Peak or the ill-fated FW3200). Once upon a time Macs used to be relatively state-of-the-art and graphics monsters and now they're "those machines without viruses" at best.

Why does a company with more capital income than Microsoft seem like they're stuck in the mud when it comes to doing more than one thing at a time? (Perhaps a glitch leftover from the shared multi-tasking days where multi-tasking didn't work for squat? :D )

It's clear Steve only really cares about iPhones and iPads (we'll probably see an iCar Navigator next or maybe an Apple iMuff set of ear muffs with headphones built-in for the Russian market?) His medical problems might very well be from trying to take on too many tasks. It's a darn shame Woz doesn't get more say in the company. He was clearly the technical genius from the start and he clearly likes the Mac whereas Steve seems to need to change it until it looks like a George Foreman Grill(TM) or something.
 
How about this line-up:
MacBook Air SSD + no OD
MacBook SSD + HDD + no OD
MacBook Pro HDD/SSD BTO + OD

I am starting to feel that Apple will not drastically change the MacBook Pro form factor.
 
Yeah, I'd wait for all those initial tweaked systems to flow through the system before buying one of these. They're probably fine but to me the whole scenario is a bit off. I'd rather wait until they run out of the "tweaked" stock.

Cheers,
 
I can't remember the last time I used a CD/DVD on my MBP. Oh right, it was to install Snow Leopard. Don't know what I would do without it! What's a USB stick?


Well, I just got done burning 4 CD's for a project that had to be delivered on that medium. But I suppose most people don't care about that.
 
Unfortunately not everyone has access to unlimited internet. For those of us that don't have it, using DVDs to watch movies is still important. Anyway using optical media you can get higher quality video than iTunes provides.

Seeing as you can't use Blu-ray on a MBP natively, your NTSC DVD is far less quality than 720p from itunes.

But anyways, where's our Quad core SB Apple? So much for the "pro" in Macbook. You're telling me, not even the 17" can dissipate enough heat to handle a single 45W TDP CPU? You don't even need an integrated video anymore which reduces an extra 10W on each mobo. I love OSX but this Apple Tax and underperforming hardware and high-end prices is killing me. $1k for a C2Duo is a joke. Cheapest i7 is $2k...
 
Well, I just got done burning 4 CD's for a project that had to be delivered on that medium. But I suppose most people don't care about that.

Nope, unfortunately for you, most people don't. Most people are selfish.

Those who aren't selfish would suggest that if you bought a decent external CD burner, you would be able to burn your CDs much more quickly, and more reliably, giving you a little extra time to polish your project. If you're often in the situation of needing to burn multiple disks, you could even buy a few burners, and put them on a USB hub.

If you require a CD burner for your income, I don't really understand why you would be using the rather slow, and often unreliable internal Superdrive as anything but a backup to your external burner.
 
MBP 17 expansion/express slot

eSata ports can be added to the MBP 17 via the slot ..... which makes me wonder .... does that slot require another eSata link to the motherboard?
 
Unfortunately not everyone has access to unlimited internet. For those of us that don't have it, using DVDs to watch movies is still important. Anyway using optical media you can get higher quality video than iTunes provides.

+1 Lots of us are using the od a lot. Downloading etc is not always an option or even the best option. + Carrying the drive plus cable is not an elegant solution when moving about a lot.
 
Yeah, I'd wait for all those initial tweaked systems to flow through the system before buying one of these. They're probably fine but to me the whole scenario is a bit off. I'd rather wait until they run out of the "tweaked" stock.

Cheers,
The later MBPs will probably be "tweaked" as well, with the exception that the SATA ports which isn't used actually works.
 
As I have written in another thread I would be happy to see the optical drive become an external option if that means that we get more usb/firewire/whatever is next ports added.

I've been playing the waiting game for a long time and am now down to my last year or so.
 
I can't remember the last time I used a CD/DVD on my MBP. Oh right, it was to install Snow Leopard. Don't know what I would do without it! What's a USB stick?

They ship osx install / reinstall usb sticks with the airs, why not with the macbook pros? Its actually a better solution, as its more durable.

Oh and I never said ODD's were not important, but really when your travelling do you even need to bring the external disc drive? I mean, yes they are important I can't and wont try to say otherwise, but its not something that is necessary for average activities.

i do agree that they can focus to much on the whole make it thinner moto, but I cant see them taking a step backwards, so the only real foreseeable solution is to remove the drive and create room. Im not saying its the best idea, as it doesn't suit everyone, as you and many others have said, its just a logical one.


Unfortunately not everyone has access to unlimited internet. For those of us that don't have it, using DVDs to watch movies is still important. Anyway using optical media you can get higher quality video than iTunes provides.

I do not disagree with that, but its very possible to rip the movies you need to your computer. And before saying they will take up to much room, just remember you only really need to have a few on at a time, the rest could be on an external HDD. This is what I do, because my internet back home is not great.


And to everyone I just want to state again, really think, how much do you use these things? if your at home why whatch dvds on a laptop (yes, there are some reasons, but be reasobable), and how much DVD based software do you really install. I am willing to bet you dont sit down for hours installing software from DVDs everyday. Not trolling, just trying to get people to think, its surprising just how little we use them now. Like I said, I was against loosing the drive to, but then I just really thought about it, turns out to me atleast, that its not as important as I thought.
 
Unfortunately not everyone has access to unlimited internet. For those of us that don't have it, using DVDs to watch movies is still important. Anyway using optical media you can get higher quality video than iTunes provides.

Removing the ODD from inside the enclosure is not the same as eliminating it as an option. It might just mean you have to plug one in one the rare occasion you want to use a CD/DVD.
 
No ODD would rock my socks. I do iPod in the car, steam + blizzard games are available online (not to mention I just rip the iso and save it on external), and I use hulu, netflix, and YouTube for laptop media while appletv or bluray for home media. When I got my mbp 13 firstthing I did was put in hdd caddy plus ssd. Ext DVD when needed..

So that plus higher res screens and better gfx I'm good.
 
Yes but what if they remove the ODD and you wanna play video games? You can't! Also some things arent in the app store yet like adobe
 
+1 Lots of us are using the od a lot. Downloading etc is not always an option or even the best option. + Carrying the drive plus cable is not an elegant solution when moving about a lot.

"lots of us..."?! Really? Doubtful.

Chances are though that you'd regularly carry the power pack/cables anyway, right? Chances are you might well carry an external hard drive, right? Chances ate you might have to carry a phone too, right? Chances are you usually carry all these things in a bag anyway, right?

Seems a poor tradeoff for everyone else to suffer an inferior computing experience because a sad few can't manage one additional small, light, cheap accessory in a backpack. :rolleyes:

Clearly you're in need of having your a** dragged kicking and screaming out of the 1990s!
 
Nope, unfortunately for you, most people don't. Most people are selfish.

Those who aren't selfish would suggest that if you bought a decent external CD burner, you would be able to burn your CDs much more quickly, and more reliably, giving you a little extra time to polish your project. If you're often in the situation of needing to burn multiple disks, you could even buy a few burners, and put them on a USB hub.

If you require a CD burner for your income, I don't really understand why you would be using the rather slow, and often unreliable internal Superdrive as anything but a backup to your external burner.

Golly gee, how about because its already built into the laptop.
 
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