Why? I really don't think that Apple would knowingly put out sub-standard or potentially defective machines en masse... it would be so un-Apple of them!
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MacBook Pro Refresh Seeing Only Minor Delays Due to Intel Problems?
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Why? I really don't think that Apple would knowingly put out sub-standard or potentially defective machines en masse... it would be so un-Apple of them!
If they were using three drives, they now couldn't easily rewire to solve the problem. So they must be rewiring something from a "slow" damaged port to a previously unused "fast" port, right?
Thanks for correcting me. And you're right, they could take the ODD out of the smaller models or make it an option an there would still be a problem. But either way, some MBPs will almost certainly have an ODD option even if others don't.
Right! I find it hard to believe just how many people seem to just jump to conclusions that make very little sense, especially when the only thing behind them is hollow rumours and vague news.
If people took the time to research they would see just how tight the insides of a macbook pro are, then they would see that it would be impossible to just add another drive to the laptop. The only real possibility I could see for using more than 2 sata ports would be the addition of eSata, though this is very unlikely. If they were going to add that they would have a long time ago, though I wouldn't mind being wrong on that.
So my point is that yes, they were likely using the slower ports, and after hearing word of the problems they could eventually have, they simply switched over to using the two ports that have no issues.
Apple aren't going to switch the MBP to SSD only. They might add an 8Gb SSD to dump RAM in to for hibernation and better standby life, however. This might require use of an additional SATA port, I'm not sure (I would have thought his would have required additional controller logic, which is exactly what Apple stripped out for the Air).
Or, dare I say, is apple going to keep the C2D in the 13"? If they are still using the chipset used for C2D models, this issue would not affect the 13".
I really hope this is not the case, but you never know.
How Long?
When do you think the new MBP's will be released? Within the next few weeks, possibly on Feb 20? Intel said laptops will start shipping with the Sandy Bridge then.
When do you think the new MBP's will be released? Within the next few weeks, possibly on Feb 20? Intel said laptops will start shipping with the Sandy Bridge then.
I still think that we'll see at least some of the next MBPs with blade SSD storage, as well as a traditional hard disk, and an optical drive. I would therefore guess that Apple are swapping at least some of the logic boards with new, fixed ones.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if at least some of the new MBPs don't have optical drives. For most people (based on polls on this site) losing the optical drive for another HD or better performance would be beneficial.
It seems very likely that at least one product out of the MacBook family will keep an optical drive, although which one is not so clear cut. For example, the 17" is the logical choice in terms of space (although the space difference is insignificant compared to the size of an ODD), although it's also the one least likely to be removed from a desk, and therefore users will be least likely to be inconvenienced using an external.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if at least some of the new MBPs don't have optical drives. For most people (based on polls on this site) losing the optical drive for another HD or better performance would be beneficial.
It seems very likely that at least one product out of the MacBook family will keep an optical drive, although which one is not so clear cut. For example, the 17" is the logical choice in terms of space (although the space difference is insignificant compared to the size of an ODD), although it's also the one least likely to be removed from a desk, and therefore users will be least likely to be inconvenienced using an external.
Yeah, I TOTALLY want a MBP with a 95W desktop processor in it.
Go checking the intel's website for CPU mode for LAPTOP, you will see a lot models better than 2600，but apple just doesn't want to use that.
Only those numb apple fans support Apple blindly without a tangible reason. Be reasonable!
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Another reason that "some, not all" might be affected is that only some, not all of the new MBPs will have Cougar Point.
Another reason that "some, not all" might be affected is that only some, not all of the new MBPs will have Cougar Point.
"some -- not all -- of the company's upcoming MacBook Pros were affected by the situation."
AKA: upcoming MBP 13" will still use a 3 year old C2Duo...
Remember...there is a chipset between C2D and SB. Hopefully not but thats what I thought as soon as I read it.
I agree, I think we will definitely see blade SSD and HDD in the next revision for the 17 and possibly 15. I don't think we will see the drop of the ODD, but I would love the option. Next MBP refresh, it's gone though. Right now the app store is just too new. Would love to be wrong on that count though...would really like to see a MBP 13 with discrete.
Oh dear. Just another thing to plug in and carry around all because the thickness of a 13" macbook is set in stone and must not be changed. If other manufacturers can squeeze an i series chip, od and a graphics chip in their 13" systems then I don't see why Apple can't. If Apple was to remove the od then if anything they will probably go even thinner so what else would go to make this happen? And would the price of an od'less system come down or would buyers still be expected to pay similar prices for less function and still have to buy an od on top of that? Personally if its all too much for Apple I think they should just get rid of the 13" macbook/pro keep the 11" and 13" airs and make affordable 15" notebooks. That way we can have graphic chips AND optical drives. By the way I for one don't see how not having an od makes a pro machine more pro. Also why should people buying Apple Macbook/Pros at a lower price point be penalised by not having optical drives when the just about all consumers bar netbook and air purchasers do have built in od.