There aren't computers with DVD burner in your college?
I reckon the MacBook could be a better machine by using the massive space that the ODD occupy for anything else such as storage, battery, cpu/gpu, heatsinks, and what else.
An external ODD is ridicusly low in price something in between £10 to £30! THAT IS WASTED SPACE!
Wasted space for you maybe. Not for enough people for Apple to nix it in what is arguably their most popular Mac.
Adobe sells its products online, as well Microsoft, Blizzard and many other companies. The App Store is not the only place where you can purchase digital downloads.
Like downloading Adobe After Effects, Office 2011, or StarCraft II (let alone Apple's own high-end software like Final Cut Pro) is really more or even just as convenient as doing so by way of install disc. Oh wait, it's not.
Uh, such a replacement exists. It's called Blu-Ray. The fact that Apple is refusing to implement this current standard optical medium in their computers is part of the problem, you know. If the Superdrive supported Blu-Ray, it would still be a reasonable feature. I wouldn't use it much, but I'd understand the reasoning behind it: support optical media as long as needed, ditch the support later when everything is done through streaming and downloading. However, in not offering a Blu-Ray drive, Apple isn't REALLY supporting optical media, they're just supporting an obsolete standard. DVDs are as good as dead and I don't want a device dedicated to dead media taking up 25% of my laptop's internal space. So Apple should man up and make a statement on optical media: either support optical media in its current incarnation or ditch the drive. It's quite simple, really. I'm not buying a Macbook until this is resolved.
I more meant optical discs as a whole. But sure, count me in on the "when the hell are they finally adopting Blu Ray" party.
Also, because I love repeating this: the Superdrive is by far the crappiest piece of hardware in Apple's laptops and I've never encountered one that wasn't broken in some way or other after about a year of use. Anyone who actually depends on optical media (can't imagine for what reason) would be ill-advised to place their trust in the Superdrive. Externals are definitely more dependable and of higher quality.
Sure, but they're inconvenient and the fact that Apple's choice of internal OD sucks doesn't preclude the blatantly shortsighted notion that they're unimportant and ripe for nixing altogether.
Yebubbleman you must have beaten a record of some sort with your last post
I agree that the majority of the users would still want the OD, whether they use it much or not.
But all the models have more than one configuration.
They could just leave the OD in the stock configurations and offer the second configuration with an external OD.
It's possible right? It would make the majority happy like that..
Yeah, what can I say, I haven't commented in the last couple weeks and I needed to make up for lost time. Plus you know I can't resist (yet )a(nother) MacBook Pro 2011 thread.
+1 - Everyone seems intent on killing off the MBP13 because it's not "Pro" but dropping the ODD solves the lack of discrete graphics.
Apple. If you drop the ODD and make the MBP13 as capable as the 15/17, I WILL PAY THE PREMIUM...
More people wouldn't though, which is why they won't do it with the 13".
13" MBP has never been "pro". Apple just added it due to marketing so removing it now would not make any sense at all. Apple has no issues calling the current 13" MBP with outdated CPU a MacBook Pro so they won't have any issues calling the next gen 13" MBP with Intel IGP a MacBook Pro.
I respect you and your opinions on these forums. You're not stupid and you don't, in turn, say stupid things. But I've seen you repeat that stance before and the argument you make sounds like "They made the MacBook Aluminum in what was a weird marketing move to begin with, and then they made it a 13" Pro in what was an even weirder marketing move, so there's no way they'll do an understandable marketing move by dropping the "Pro" name from it." and I have to say that I don't quite follow the logic on that, especially if they were to do the even smarter move by making the white MacBook an education-only model like the eMac or the Mid 2006 iMac (Core Duo [not Core 2] with a GMA 950 instead of the Radeon X1600).
Yes, he SURELY beat the record of longest AND most unnecessary post ever; half of the WHOLE page was dedicated to him. Amazing what people can do in this forum.
Yup. It's pretty amazing that jerkwads like me exist to respond to lots of comments wasting your valuable Internets. I gotta give you props though, you wasted a comment to express your criticism which is slightly hypocritical. Cheers to you!
I honestly don't understand this post...
You can't possibly be saying that you believe 99% of MacBook Pro users use the ODD often? From the posts on this forum I'd guess maybe it's 50/50? I hardly ever use mine, and as a consultant at a large agency I can tell you maybe a third of the users at the agency use the ODD more than once a week.
"From this forum" is not an accurate sampling of all users. It is of Apple fans and definitely of those who are still high off of October's MacBook Air relaunch.
Pardon my ignorance, but this whole thing most likely applies to the iMacs as well. Correct?
Yes, but by the time the iMac is due for a refresh, they will have, more likely than not, run out of stock on the defective chipsets.
This would have been a fine argument a few years ago, but I am a university student, and I cant think of anyone I know, nor have I seen anyone using their MBP to play dvds. And almost everyone here has a macbook pro. People either watch dvds on tvs, even that is rare, or they download movies and watch them that way on there laptop, or by hooking the laptop up to there tvs.
You must be at the wrong university then. Everyone I know at my university used to and still does watch DVDs on their laptops when not in their living room.
