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MacBook Pro Specs, LightPeak Known As ThunderBolt?

200-300 grams lighter is a joke after all.

It is good to see i5. But Apple cannot avoid using Intel graphic this time. I want to see how it stack up against previous model.
As for weight, a while ago someone boast about liquid metal which gonna reduce weight. Where is it?
 
tuna said:
Why only 1280x800 display resolution? The 13" MBA has a 1440x900 resolution display and at MSRP $1299 thats only $100 higher than the rumored base MBP to come out this week.

I hope this is fake.
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yes, but the 13'' air cost 1299. perhaps you have the choice for a +90$ option for a better display like now in the macbook pro 15''. perhaps this is the cheapest macbook pro, so i don't see a problem with this until we know the price.
 
Filipek said:
I don't understand that nobody is surprised, that if this the low end model, how is it possible that the CPU is an i5?? What does that mean for the other 13 inch MPB model? And what does this mean to the 15 and 17 inch?
And why only such a big improvement to the CPU, compared to the last revision, while the other specifications are not so fascinating?
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I think the speed boost from going to a Core i5 from a Core2Duo would be well worth it, plus the battery life would most likely improve if the machine is relying on Intel graphics in every scenario. The 13" Macbook Pro has never been intended to be a gaming machine, and anyone trying to buy it for that purpose could spend their money better elsewhere. In the last few revisions of 13" there has been a focus on a balance of processor and graphics performance.

I guess Apple have decided that for the large majority of consumers, this new feature set is going to work really well and Apple can still turn a profit.

Anyone looking for more power should probably be waiting for the 15 and 17 inch models anyway...I know I am.
 
Does anybody have any thoughts about this: if the macbook will be discontinued, does this mean there will be 3 13inch MBP options?

Or will the Macbook 'merge' with the low end 13 inch? Doesn't make much sense to me, cause then it seems logical that the price will be changed, but then on the other hand, why would Apple do that?
 
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Mac21ND said:
InfoTime said:
Here's a closer look:

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Calling fake now - at least on the port photo.
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I call fake too. I don't see apple naming their product "thunderbolt". Hahaha. Seriously.
 
Hastings101 said:
Why is it so disappointing? The Intel HD 3000 does better than the 320m available in some of the Macbook Pros plus an i5 processor which is also a definite improvement over the Core2Duo that was available.

We are talking about the low end Macbook Pro here, not the mid-to-high ones. I think you're expecting too much.
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To quote T-Pain's Toshiba commercial, .... "Everything we do it ain't hardcore. It's hexacore. Mega-gigabyte, son. EVERYTHING IN THE COMPUTER NEEDS MY FACE ON IT." A large portion of the mac community has become addicted to every product having to be ridiculously evolutionary. Even these modest improvements are good enough for me. YMMV.
 
Padraig said:
I've no idea why some people are looking for liquid metal laptops. What benefit would it have over the current AL machines?
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+1!

I've already got a memory stick (Sandisk 'Titanium') that's said to be made of liquidmetal and I have the distinct impression that it's heavier than aluminium as a material, although I've not measured the weight per volume. Also that case doesn't have the same precision as the machined unibody enclosures. Probably because the material is poured into a cast like it's done with plastic.

The current aluminium unibodies are light, strong, have extremely high precision (like microperforations) and the material is not allergenic (at least not to me). Liquidmetal will have to bring some really big benefits to the table to beat that.

I'm guessing Apple is more interested in LiquidMetal for its smaller iPod range. It does enable cases of more 'organic' shapes and sizes.
 
Let's compare now that it's confirmed.

Base 13 Inch Macbook Pro Specs
> Current >> Rumored
> 2.4 GHz (C2D) >> 2.3 GHz (i5)
> 4 GB Memory (1066 MHz) >> 4 GB Memory (1333 MHz)
> 250 GB Hard Drive >> 320 GB Hard Drive (same RPM)
> 1280 x 800 LED >> 1280 x 800 LED
> Geforce 320M Graphics 256 MB) >> Intel HD Graphics 3000 (384 MB)
> iSight Camera >> FaceTime HD Camera
> Mini Display Port Slot >> Thunderbolt Slot
> 4.5 Pounds >> 4.5 Pounds
> Exact Same Size >> Exact Same Size
> 10 Hour Battery >> Possible 12 Hour Battery

It's better obviously, but by how much?

Processor > Huge Leap
Memory > Slight Speed Increase
Hard Drive > Larger, but no SSD
Resolution > Same and disappointing
Graphics > Almost No Change In Speed
Camera > Better Resolution
Size > No Change
 
robinheeftdorst said:
So, nearly al the rumors of last week are no where to be found? no bigger trackpad, no 8/16gb ssd, no i3 and so on.

is the graphics faster or slower? (I hope its faster)

can someone please explain what the displayport hybrid does?

Thanks a lot

(I'm new to this forum, and I also haven't got a mac. But I want one in a shot period of time, suggestions?)
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We'll find out for sure tomorrow.

Light Peak is capable of driving displays as well as other peripherals like external hard drives. My guess is that this port can support multiple Light Peak devices with an adapter, or perhaps the next Apple Cinema Displays will have Light Peak ports to support daisy chaining peripherals.

The Sandy Bridge graphics are slower than the NVIDIA 320m. That's been confirmed by AnandTech and others who have tested the Sandy Bridge processors in other computers. That said, the CPU is significantly faster and more efficient than the Core 2 Duos used in the current models. Overall, most users will notice an increase. Gamers will not, however.

There will definitely be models of the MacBook Pro with SSDs available. We don't know for sure whether the rumors of the 8-16GB SSD for the OS are true or false. Either way, if you want an SSD-equipped MacBook Pro you'll be able to get one. The current model has one available, but it's a steep upgrade. It's a pretty safe bet that the upgrade will be cheaper this time around.
 
A little bit disappointed that the USB ports aren't USB 3.0, at least offering compatibility with external drives that people could already have purchased.

About Light Peak (Thunderbolt then ^^) the thing is Intel hadn't fixed the shape of the port and used USB shapes for testing but I don't remember them saying one port would offer USB 3 and Light Peak at the same time so it make sense to have a port with a different shape so users won't start jamming cables where they don't belong.

The choice of Apple's mini display port might actually be a great idea. First off Apple was pushing for Light Peak, and one of its great concepts is that it is protocol agnostic so the port can manage all type of data transfer making it able to be used as a display out or for networking.
Now Apple mini display port design was licensed with no fees so others companies could use and it was added to the VESA specification for display port, if you add Light Peak to it Intel might get the use of LP has a video port without having to fight for its own tech with the VESA.
 
I really don't care about the base 13"
Sounds like a big deal with the new Thunderbolt..... just keeps reminding me of Pikachu

Can't wait to know the 15" high end model...
I've been using my mac for 4 years, the Santa Rosa version in mid 2007...... it's time for me to get a new mac.......................!!!!!
 
Steve Fox said:
I think the speed boost from going to a Core i5 from a Core2Duo would be well worth it, plus the battery life would most likely improve if the machine is relying on Intel graphics in every scenario. The 13" Macbook Pro has never been intended to be a gaming machine, and anyone trying to buy it for that purpose could spend their money better elsewhere. In the last few revisions of 13" there has been a focus on a balance of processor and graphics performance.

I guess Apple have decided that for the large majority of consumers, this new feature set is going to work really well and Apple can still turn a profit.

Anyone looking for more power should probably be waiting for the 15 and 17 inch models anyway...I know I am.
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Makes sense, I am not very familiar with Apple yet, planning to buy my first 13 inch MBP now. Also not a gamer, so the Graphic card doesn't really matter for me (I do a little bit photoshop, but not on professional basis).
 
With this being the base model, I have higher hopes for the 15" higher end models. I'd love a design refresh, but I won't hold out forever for a new model as my 2006 model is looking really long in the tooth. Everyone sets such high standards for Apple that when the final product is delivered, everyone is disappointed. Remember NOTHING is confirmed, until Apple confirms it. Either way I will be buying a new MacBook Pro tomorrow, or whenever they are released.
 
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