MacBook Pro Specs, LightPeak Known As ThunderBolt?

[OptyCT]

With all the "spec whores" posting on this thread, you'd think this was a discussion about PC laptops.

 

[macguy360]

lol minor CPU bump... it's much more more than a minor bump. Hyper threading, do any video encoding? yeah it will destroy the C2D. Actually anything cpu intensive the i5 SB will have it's fun even over the 2.66Ghz $1500 C2D model. And we don't even know the pricing here, if it's $1100 as rumored, that's very good.

Also, everyone here has been so excited over tunderbolt they forgot to realize that we are also going to see USB 3.0 in these laptops due to sandy bridge. Thank god! No more 3 hours of wait time to transfer over information from laptop to a portable via usb.

 

[Stephen123]

If this is real, the point of a Mini DisplayPort with "Thunderbolt" would be to carry video, audio and USB to existing Apple displays without occupying a USB port. That would give it something available in the world that it supports now, in addition to whatever they have planned.

 

[fromcristobal]

So the MBP wont be made from liquid metal?

Eventually, they will. But we'll be "stuck" on aluminum for at least a year and a half if so. Not a big deal for me really.

 

[greytmom]

what, liquid thunderminium of course.

bwahahahaha!

 

[nsdjoe]

This CPU cannot be an i5 unless intel are making a specific PCU for the MBP. The only mobile dual-core Sandy Bridge CPU at 2.3 GHz is the i7-2649M at 25W (check mobile processors at ark.intel.com if you don't believe me). It would make sense that this MBP is a slightly higher spec as the only other non-embedded mobile CPU at 25W is i7-2629M at 2.1 GHz. Apple have never in the past used different CPU & GPU power rated MBP's in the past, so this is the logical conclusion.

From deduction, the newer MBA released this year will most likely us the 17W Sandy Bridge processors, which would be a 13W reduction in TDP over the current 11" and 20W reduction over the current 13". This is assuming the integrated 320M has a TDP of 20W, (only reference wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units).This is measuring the CPU + iGPU as 10 + 20 for the 11" and 17 + 20 for the 13". In short, this will mean a lot less heat output of the MBA as well as massive battery life.

For the 13" MBP, these will have no discrete GPU so the power would be 25W compared to the current 45W for CPU + iGPU, which will basically mean massive battery life.

For the 15" MBP, they will almost definitely use the 35W chips i5-2520M, i5-2540M, i7-2620M at 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 GHz respectively. Depending on the GPU, they could also go with some of the i7 quad cores (eventually). Again, those likely are at 45W (unless they go with the i7-2920XM 2.5GHz at 55W, very unlikely). The 45W quad core chips would be i7-2630QM or i7-2635QM at 2GHz (the i7-2635QM has slightly faster graphics turbo, 1.2 vs 1.2GHz) the i7-2720QM at 2.2 GHz and the i7-2820QM at 2.3 GHz.

These quad-core chips will rock and possibly will go with the 17". If they put the i7-2720QM in, it would make sense, as it's rather cheap comparing to current CPU prices and also it would blow the iMac i7 and also most of the MacPro CPUs out of the water. The 2820QM and 2920XM would be nice, but are definitely ever more overkill and are much more expensive.

The current 15" MBP highest spec chip has a 1k unit price ~$350 the i7-2720QM is $378. The 1k unit price of 2630/35 isn't yet shown in ark.intel so can't really compare those.

Look at the 2410M:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge

I don't think it's on Intel's site because it's OEM only.

 

[dtodor]

This CPU cannot be an i5 unless intel are making a specific PCU for the MBP. The only mobile dual-core Sandy Bridge CPU at 2.3 GHz is the i7-2649M at 25W (check mobile processors at ark.intel.com if you don't believe me). It would make sense that this MBP is a slightly higher spec as the only other non-embedded mobile CPU at 25W is i7-2629M at 2.1 GHz. Apple have never in the past used different CPU & GPU power rated MBP's in the past, so this is the logical conclusion.

From deduction, the newer MBA released this year will most likely us the 17W Sandy Bridge processors, which would be a 13W reduction in TDP over the current 11" and 20W reduction over the current 13". This is assuming the integrated 320M has a TDP of 20W, (only reference wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units).This is measuring the CPU + iGPU as 10 + 20 for the 11" and 17 + 20 for the 13". In short, this will mean a lot less heat output of the MBA as well as massive battery life.

For the 13" MBP, these will have no discrete GPU so the power would be 25W compared to the current 45W for CPU + iGPU, which will basically mean massive battery life.

For the 15" MBP, they will almost definitely use the 35W chips i5-2520M, i5-2540M, i7-2620M at 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 GHz respectively. Depending on the GPU, they could also go with some of the i7 quad cores (eventually). Again, those likely are at 45W (unless they go with the i7-2920XM 2.5GHz at 55W, very unlikely). The 45W quad core chips would be i7-2630QM or i7-2635QM at 2GHz (the i7-2635QM has slightly faster graphics turbo, 1.2 vs 1.2GHz) the i7-2720QM at 2.2 GHz and the i7-2820QM at 2.3 GHz.

These quad-core chips will rock and possibly will go with the 17". If they put the i7-2720QM in, it would make sense, as it's rather cheap comparing to current CPU prices and also it would blow the iMac i7 and also most of the MacPro CPUs out of the water. The 2820QM and 2920XM would be nice, but are definitely ever more overkill and are much more expensive.

The current 15" MBP highest spec chip has a 1k unit price ~$350 the i7-2720QM is $378. The 1k unit price of 2630/35 isn't yet shown in ark.intel so can't really compare those.

The CPU is the Core i5-2410M:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_bridge#Mobile_processors

 

[bobjob186]

What did they change?
-> An minor cpu bump (it won't make that much of a difference)
-> Slightly faster ram (but with higher latency)
-> Crappier graphics
-> Lame 1280x800 resolution
-> And an port that nobody uses.

If I had money now I would buy the actual model (at an discount price since the new ones are coming).

Minor CPU upgrade??? C2D is 2006 technology! The i series came out last year and now SB is the latest version of this processor. You should be kissing the floor that C2D is gone.

My favorite part of the comment is the "If I had money" part.

 

[papierbox]

This CPU cannot be an i5 unless intel are making a specific PCU for the MBP. The only mobile dual-core Sandy Bridge CPU at 2.3 GHz is the i7-2649M at 25W (check mobile processors at ark.intel.com if you don't believe me). It would make sense that this MBP is a slightly higher spec as the only other non-embedded mobile CPU at 25W is i7-2629M at 2.1 GHz. Apple have never in the past used different CPU & GPU power rated MBP's in the past, so this is the logical conclusion.
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The current 15" MBP highest spec chip has a 1k unit price ~$350 the i7-2720QM is $378. The 1k unit price of 2630/35 isn't yet shown in ark.intel so can't really compare those.

you are wrong. the 2410m is corei5, has 2,3ghz and 3mb ram (same in the leaked specs). this cpu has an TDP of 35W.
i think the rest is right..

 

[blackburn]

I highly doubt that the speed will actually "double" an 30% improvement would be more likely. Anyway I don't have much use for a faster processor if the graphics card sucks, does it even support opencl? Another thing that bugs me is the tdp sharing of the cpu and gpu, so if we use one a lot the other suffers

 

[rickjs]

With all the "spec whores" posting on this thread, you'd think this was a discussion about PC laptops.

That's all Macs really are anyway. The OS is what differentiates it.

 

[Veinticinco]

Eh? A Thunderbolt IS Lightning.
Thunder (no bolt) is the sound.

Ok, well it's lightning accompanied (a few seconds later) by the sound of thunder.

But it's all about connotation isn't it. This has to be the slower copper-based tech, hence the use of THUNDER (sound), or are you telling me ifixit are going to yanking out fibre optics next week?

What do you think the optical-based tech will be branded as then when it comes to market? Thunderbolt 2.0?

 

[cmaier]

Also, everyone here has been so excited over tunderbolt they forgot to realize that we are also going to see USB 3.0 in these laptops due to sandy bridge. Thank god! No more 3 hours of wait time to transfer over information from laptop to a portable via usb.

No we are not.

 

[Shivetya]

If these machines really have a Light Peak port, that will be a huge game changer.

Yeah, introducing a connector no one else uses, no third party has products for yet, is always a game changer


Maybe in a few years but since Intel is pushing this its not like Apple is going to see any real benefit from it except for increased hardware sales to geeks who want the latest and greatest.

 

[Fysi]

Also, everyone here has been so excited over tunderbolt they forgot to realize that we are also going to see USB 3.0 in these laptops due to sandy bridge. Thank god! No more 3 hours of wait time to transfer over information from laptop to a portable via usb.

Umm. The exact opposite to what you think actually. If you want USB3.0 with any current Intel chipset, you have to get another chip added onto the mobo or add some via PCIe.

 

[macnchiefs]

I don't see what the big deal is. They did say that they would no longer offer the white Macbook. So shouldn't everyone be comparing that to this? Of course, there will be an updated 13" to compete greatly with the current one.

Call me crazy, but I'm more concerned with the 15" anyway. That's always been where it's at.

When you say "they" who are you referring to? Other rumor sites? That's not very comforting considering "others" have shot down "they" saying the bottom line macbook will still be available. I hope you're right but it's all conjecture at this point.

 

[toddybody]

Eventually, they will. But we'll be "stuck" o aluminum for at least a year and a half if so. Not a big deal for me really.

True. Though its really cool...i dont get the crazy hype over liquid metal.

 

[nohma]

With all the "spec whores" posting on this thread, you'd think this was a discussion about PC laptops.

+1 So glad macs are about using computers, not about specs. And for the record, I have no problem with people preferring $600 Acer computers. None at all. Leave the Macbook Pros for me and mine.

 

[cmaier]

Yeah, introducing a connector no one else uses, no third party has products for yet, is always a game changer


Maybe in a few years but since Intel is pushing this its not like Apple is going to see any real benefit from it except for increased hardware sales to geeks who want the latest and greatest.

Syncing to iPad 2 and iPhone 5 will be very fast.

 

[Tapiwa]

Wow, way to disappoint...
I know I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up but...

HD 3000??
1280x800??

Seriously?
I didn't realize I was in the market for a bargain $399 pc...

 

[macclellan]

Apple have never in the past used different CPU & GPU power rated MBP's in the past, so this is the logical conclusion.

From deduction, the newer MBA released this year will most likely us the 17W Sandy Bridge processors

You mean induction.

 

[Veinticinco]

Eventually, they will. But we'll be "stuck" o aluminum for at least a year and a half if so. Not a big deal for me really.

Liquid metal is just a pet project for Apple. Good for making those iPhone SIM paperclips but nothing more.

Now TRANSPARENT aluminium, that's the future

 

[macguy360]

I don't know why everyone thinks Liquid metal will look like graphite. Here is the current liquid metal pin made by Apple for 3g phones.

 

[bilg]

the thread is too damn fake

 

[Fysi]

Yeah, introducing a connector no one else uses, no third party has products for yet, is always a game changer


Maybe in a few years but since Intel is pushing this its not like Apple is going to see any real benefit from it except for increased hardware sales to geeks who want the latest and greatest.

If Apple actually used the prototyped connectors and ports demo'd by Intel then you would just be able to plug USB in, as they are backwards compatible. So it's adapters for Apples. No surprise.