That theory makes sense...
I guess there's no choice but to wait and see how those machines actually perform...
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MacBook Pro Specs, LightPeak Known As ThunderBolt?
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That theory makes sense...
I guess there's no choice but to wait and see how those machines actually perform...
of course, if they advertise 30 day sleep and instant on, us Mac Nerds will know that there is a flash drive in there for the OS. They probably won't tell the general public b/c thats not something the average consumer needs to worry about. It will be invisible to them.
First of all, please excuse my stupidity & ignorance. I hope I don't offend you or anyone else & if I do, I sincerely apologize.
I'm just curious. What do you do or what programs do you run that makes Windows unusable?
I don't understand why everyone is upset by the 13" Macbook Pro specs? Did everyone really think it was going to come with SSD drives in a $1100 laptop? 240 GB SSD drives start out around $460 on Newegg, which would be almost half of the cost of the laptop.
It could have been a lot worse, Apple could have used a Core i3 processor and dropped the Firewire. I actually thought before these pics that the early 2011 13" MBP would be a Core i3, 4GB ram, the intergrated Intel HD graphics, a possibly dropped Firewire replaced by the Intel Thunderbolt port.
I'd say jumping from a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo to a 2.3 GHz Core i5 processor is a nice increase in technology. I'd say buy base model, jump over to newegg, and upgrade it with 8GB of ram, and a 240GB SSD. That alone would make it a 13" performance monster. The graphics solution could have been better, but Apple has rarely offered anything decent in the 13" MBP.
It could have been a lot worse, Apple could have used a Core i3 processor and dropped the Firewire. I actually thought before these pics that the early 2011 13" MBP would be a Core i3, 4GB ram, the intergrated Intel HD graphics, a possibly dropped Firewire replaced by the Intel Thunderbolt port.
I'd say jumping from a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo to a 2.3 GHz Core i5 processor is a nice increase in technology. I'd say buy base model, jump over to newegg, and upgrade it with 8GB of ram, and a 240GB SSD. That alone would make it a 13" performance monster. The graphics solution could have been better, but Apple has rarely offered anything decent in the 13" MBP.
I have been interviewing around for higher paying jobs. I do have the additional savings currently to expend on a new notebook but my stringent frugality comes back to haunt me. I have some other personal matters that would be better served by that savings as well.
I will keep using my MacBook for now. I do happen to have a few more interested buyers in it too.
First of all, please excuse my stupidity & ignorance. I hope I don't offend you or anyone else & if I do, I sincerely apologize.
I'm just curious. What do you do or what programs do you run that makes Windows unusable?
I guess he's trying to run the iLife-Apps on Windows..
Then again... that's what we said about the iPad (with wings)
Not sure about our American friends here
But coming from the UK. Thunderbolt does sound a very tacky and cheap sounding name. The type of thing a low end cheap maker would put on something to make it sound flashy. Like flames painted down the side of a crappy car.
It's not a elegant, sophisticated name in the normal Apple clean style.
It more the like the names graphics cards are given for the young techies.
The Ultra Turbo Mega Thunderbolt 3 card
But the MacBolt Pro will be thunderstrikingly Revolutionary.
BTW I don't agree with whom has said that the Thunderbolt icon looks cheaply designed, I think it fits with the recent icons design. I think it's legit.
1. sandy bridge is the first generation with integrated gpu. it isn't possible (it doesn't make sence) to creat an graphic chipset for it. you have no qpi or hypertransport on sandybridge-chips. and you habe the integrated gpu in the chip. so if nvidia would build an chipset, you have both. and this makes less sence.Definitely agree with the above.
However, IMHO, I think half the fault for the coming 13" MBP not getting a decent GPU even though it comes with a powerful Core i5 CPU has to go to Intel for being a big, fat A** H***!
2. there is no licens-problem with intel, nvidia is allowed to do it (on 11.01.2011 they endet the lizenswar). but nvidia said, that they won't build chipsets for intel.
so we must live with the integrated gpu and for the thermal-desing and the batterie life this makes much sence.
This is exactly what people said about the iPhone 4 when it was uncovered a few months before launch
"What! What are these...lines on the side ? It looks like a brick!!! This is garbage! WAYY out of apple style!"
July rolls around..and it was 100% legit. Then everyone's tune changes:
"Oh man it looks so clean! Look at those lines they are so amayzing! Apple knocked it out of the park on this one!"
The Apps..
1. iLife Apps
2. Campfire client propane
3. Automator scripts
4. Mail.app
5. Omnifocus
6. Textmate
The UI..
1. Too many to list
The Stability..
1. Hard to quantify
The Security
1. No AV and no Virii in 15+ years
Anyway, I obviously appreciate the OS. I would just love some competition on the HW. At a certain point we are looking for the benevolence of Apple - and they are looking at their bottom line
1. iLife Apps
2. Campfire client propane
3. Automator scripts
4. Mail.app
5. Omnifocus
6. Textmate
The UI..
1. Too many to list
The Stability..
1. Hard to quantify
The Security
1. No AV and no Virii in 15+ years
Anyway, I obviously appreciate the OS
. I would just love some competition on the HW. At a certain point we are looking for the benevolence of Apple - and they are looking at their bottom line First of all, please excuse my stupidity & ignorance. I hope I don't offend you or anyone else & if I do, I sincerely apologize.
I'm just curious. What do you do or what programs do you run that makes Windows unusable?
this is extremely disappointing! it looks like this is gonna be just a refresh and not a complete upgrade, considering it has the same exact specs as the current mbp but with a new processor and that stupid thunderbolt port!
Not sure about our American friends here
But coming from the UK. Thunderbolt does sound a very tacky and cheap sounding name. The type of thing a low end cheap maker would put on something to make it sound flashy. Like flames painted down the side of a crappy car.
It's not a elegant, sophisticated name in the normal Apple clean style.
It more the like the names graphics cards are given for the young techies.
The Ultra Turbo Mega Thunderbolt 3 card
Maybe like those movie making companies who are jumping on the DC Comics/Marvel Comics bandwagon by making more & more of those superhero movies, Apple is trying to do the same thing with the "fancy" name of Thunderbolt for the Light Peak technology.
Interesting, Thunderbolts (with a letter "s" at the end) is the name of a Marvel Comics superhero team. 
Same here, that design fits the roundish, blue-ish orb that Apple is using across the board.
If the HD 3000 performs better than the 320m, I will definitely eat my words and apologize.
Now what about that screen resolution?
And sorry but I'm allowed to express my opinion that this is an underwhelming update wether you like it or not
There is a difference between having an opinion and whining.
Whining isn't allowed. YOu even admitted you were whining.
Uninformed opinions aren't allowed either especially ones that contain lots of whining.
And we all can see the tech that will eventually come to the $1200 MBP pricepoint way before it ever gets there. So when folks point it out it just comes across as whining.
because graphics wise the new 13" is a DOWNGRADE....
blabla.. you can still buy the actual version. as othere wrotes bevore, there isn't an other possibility for apple to take the intel gpu. and the hd 3000 isn't as bad as much people think.
Mac portables accounted for $3.7 billion in revenue on sales in 2011. iPad for $4.6 billion and iPods for $3.4 billion.
...nobody buys MacBooks?
Seriously?
Does Dell have an event for every upgrade of the Inspiron line? Does Sony have a big event for every upgrade of the Vaio Z?
The answer is no. Laptops are not interesting products, they are something everybody has, nobody cares about them.
Also, the people that do care are in this forum whining about every single thing that Apple puts in the laptop:
- No resolution bump?
- No SSD?
- Only two USB ports?
- No dedicated graphics?
Just quit whining, seriously!
Long story short, nobody in the real world cares about a spec bump in a laptop. They care about a product that everybody wants to have, that gets a complete makeover.
/Rant
That wouldn't have helped. The i3 CPUs would have been the same TDP as the i5.
It's much closer than any other IGP from Intel has ever been. It beats a radeon 5450 which is in the same class. http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/7
Strange Box / Icon Missing?
So while these images are disappointing, and the first round looked horribly hacked together, the last one with the computer on the box looked better, I still have 2 questions...
1. On the box itself, the image of the computer is the same exact image that is on the boxes now, it is just shuffled around... So that shows nothing new, unless it isn't too noticeable.... and if they didn't feel the need to change that image, why would they switch from the chip image to the intel i5 logo?
2. I get the thunderbolt display port would be for both that and the display, but then why would they eliminate the icon for display port and just go with the thunderbolt icon? I can easily see some morons searching frantically for the display port thinking it wasnt even there... i know aesthetically it wouldn't look so hot, but that wouldnt make sense for a customer experience either?
So while these images are disappointing, and the first round looked horribly hacked together, the last one with the computer on the box looked better, I still have 2 questions...
1. On the box itself, the image of the computer is the same exact image that is on the boxes now, it is just shuffled around... So that shows nothing new, unless it isn't too noticeable.... and if they didn't feel the need to change that image, why would they switch from the chip image to the intel i5 logo?
2. I get the thunderbolt display port would be for both that and the display, but then why would they eliminate the icon for display port and just go with the thunderbolt icon? I can easily see some morons searching frantically for the display port thinking it wasnt even there... i know aesthetically it wouldn't look so hot, but that wouldnt make sense for a customer experience either?