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rev 1 of lightpeak is crap, it lacks proper bandwith.
hd 3000 is NOT as good as 320m, so you will se a fps decrease.
the benchmarks show 320m up to 50% faster then with a sandy bridge i7 quad core with a hd3000 igp.
So get your facts straight

I suggest you take your own advice. The HD 3000 (with a quad core, granted) is faster in many games.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/5

The average of these benchmarks shows the 3000 is faster as well.

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Talk about an anti-climax :rolleyes:
Talk about Apple continuing to refine and escalate the level of BS marketing!

Setting unattainable expectations, but never having to answer to anyone, or suffer consequences.

Apple's die hard followers are master defensemen, hypocritical manipulators trained in the art of counter BS.

Willing to say anything to defend the almighty Apple. Willing to jump through hoops to praise their master.

Copper Wire = Thunderbolt?

Someone at Apple's really lost their marbles.
 
Not Real

To the best of my knowledge Intel has neither launched or announced a 2nd generation Core i5 processor at 2.3 Ghz.. I don't believe this is real, and I would be shocked to see no SSD boot drive on all the models. The mini display port also functioning as Light-Peak, IMO is a stupid move what about external display, projectors, etc. if you need to use your Light-Peak accessory, assuming there will be any during the products lifetime with a mini display port connector other than maybe iOS devices..
 
lmao @ everyone expecting so much and then sad when nothing amazing is released.

i would say i told you so...but i dont get any satisfaction in that =p

redesigned case...yea =p
 



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Fscklog posts a photo of what is believed to be from the box of the new 13" MacBook Pro that Apple is planning to release on Thursday. Amongst the features, includes the name of Apple's Light Peak implementation: ThunderBolt.

Mac4Ever posts these photos that appear to be marketing materials of the new MacBook Pros with a partial image of notebook itself:


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Finally, this image claiming to show a ThunderBolt port which looks a lot like a DisplayPort. We're not sure the original source of this image:


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Article Link: MacBook Pro Specs, LightPeak Known As ThunderBolt?

Since when has Apple used Intel's logo on ANY of its marketing. Also, the notion of splitting up the mini-DisplayPort to do high-speed I/O makes little sense. What do I do if I hook it up to a monitor? Does that mean I can't use ultra-fast I/O when it's hooked up to a monitor? Or am I going to have to buy another $40 splitter?
 
Im waiting for the new Macbook Pros since 4-5 months and this leak sounds nice to me.. an i5 for the 13' base model sounds nice, I was expecting a lame i3 :)

The Thunderbold port is interesting tho, I hope too see soon some external hard disk enclosures with Thunderbolt port :)

About the lame 320 Gb hd.. well, it's lame, but **** it, i will replace it as soon as possible with a nicer OCZ Vertex 2 SSD 120 Gb :)

The only thing that disappointed me is the screen: I was really hoping about a nicer 1440x900 resolution :-/
 
If this causes you to rage you might want to think about switching to decaf. I looked it up and the m11x is 3/10" thicker than the MBP, nowhere near double. Stop being so hyperbolic.

I like to hyperbolize :) I do it all the time. Anyway, 0.3" is about 0.8cm - that's a lot. Apple would be probably able to fit another laptop in there ^^

But you're right; it doesn't have an optical drive. I wish Apple would do likewise and then have room for a dedicated GPU :D

Oh, I'd love to see that as well.
 
Since when has Apple used Intel's logo on ANY of its marketing. Also, the notion of splitting up the mini-DisplayPort to do high-speed I/O makes little sense. What do I do if I hook it up to a monitor? Does that mean I can't use ultra-fast I/O when it's hooked up to a monitor? Or am I going to have to buy another $40 splitter?

It's probably an attempt to sell their own cinema displays. The display will likely have a TB port on it (looking forward).
 
Why only pictures of the 13"?

Maybe the 15" and 17" aren't available yet?
 
I suggest you take your own advice. The HD 3000 (with a quad core, granted) is faster in many games.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/5

The average of these benchmarks shows the 3000 is faster as well.

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Think the problem gamers have is not the CPU, but the lack of a dedicated GPU. The Sandy Bridge i5 is posting some amazing benchmarks. But the HD3000 is pretty underwhelming

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/6

Under medium performance in gaming, the old MBP outperforms sandy bridge. Don't get me wrong, the new MBP specs are better than I thought they would be. Just playing devil's advocate.
 
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I don't really understand you people. Couple of days back when no specs were out yet, every one wanted i5 in macbook 13", you people were almost begging for Lightpeak and improved battery life. Now you basically got that and you are still not content. I know it's not a breathtaking upgrade but none of them were so far. I think they did a decent job, and I care more about performance than looks so no design change is not a problem for me. And when it comes to graphics, just wait and see it in action people, and then you can whine about it. Maybe i5 with HD5000 performs well. I just keep reading this thread hoping to have some more info revealed possibly some other rumors, and all I get is just you people complaining about every single aspect. Ok I am done now =)

I am looking forward to ordering a low-end MBP (hopefully tomorrow) and I am pretty happy about the upgrade. 2010 white model with C2D and 320M and 2Gb RAM was perfect for me for all the tasks I needed and a minor gaming. If you want something more...look for 15", 17". This version of MBP 13" will be more than enough for me.

Btw I didn't mean to offend anyone specific. HOWGH
 
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No I don't mind the odd but the graphics are worse than the previous gen...

Ah yes they are.... but you get a core i5 so you can't have it both way's if Apple won't remove the ODD. If they did you would have the room for a better GPU, apparently. But I did state they won't do that, they won't change the chassis etc etc, I got shouted down like all the others stating that. But it looks like we were right. But at least they aren't GMA level graphics.
 
the notion of splitting up the mini-DisplayPort to do high-speed I/O makes little sense. What do I do if I hook it up to a monitor? Does that mean I can't use ultra-fast I/O when it's hooked up to a monitor? Or am I going to have to buy another $40 splitter?

Actually it makes great sense. How many thunderbolt peripherals are out there at the moment ? It's going to take a good while before we see them yet. So why add a port that is sitting redundant ? By utilising the mini display port they can claim to offer the new technology and get bragging rights - without leaving users with a port that they can't actually do anything with.

Also yes... yes to the $40 splitter / adapter. Apple makes a good profit out of it's adapters so what's the difference if they offer another ?
 
This seems rather fishy.

I guess we'll find out soon enough. It's just shocking to me that Apple would include such new technology. They don't usually do things like this.
 
Think the problem gamers have is not the CPU, but the lack of a dedicated GPU. The Sandy Bridge i5 is posting some amazing benchmarks. But the HD3000 is pretty underwhelming

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/6

Under medium performance in gaming, the old MBP outperforms sandy bridge. Don't get me wrong, the new MBP specs are better than I thought they would be. Just playing devil's advocate.

Most of those benchmarks are under 30 fps, a common acceptable standard for smooth gaming. I think most will opt for low settings to get smooth performance over better textures with poorer framerates. Still, the 3000 is faster in at least one of those benchmarks as well.
 
You sure about that? :confused:

The last I read was that MBPs were selling like hotcakes & Apple were breaking records after records in terms of the number of MBPs sold per quarter...

Macs are selling well, they shipped a record 4.13 million in the last quarter with strong sales from the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro.

In comparison, Apple sold over 33 million iDevices in the same quarter. That's why they get all the limelight and special events.

The only fanfare the MacBook Pros will receive is when the Apple Store goes down some time tomorrow. :)
 
I don't really understand you people.

It's not that difficult, really. You simply can't make everyone happy. Regardless of what Apple does, there will be some of us who would have wished for Apple to have done something different. This has nothing to do with this refresh, which actually seems to deliver some nice new features. This is simply always the case. :)
 
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