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The M11x is also almost a quarter inch thicker and has a CPU with half the TDP of the one in the current MBP. Not a good basis for comparison.

It is in terms of the screen. I wouldn't want to use an 11" or 13" screen for gaming either, but if I had to choose, I'd pick the one with the higher resolution . . . . or hook it up to a larger display.
 
Just a message for you April 2010 and Imac 2009 and above owners The Face time Hd you will all have as well because the current iSight camera's already have a 1280x1024 resolution but get downsampled to 640x480 for video chats. Maybe apple now will remove the restriction on the Imacs and MBP.

...pardon? stop messing with my brain.
 
Hello I'm back.

Are you telling me that the number of items sold is more important than the income such items produce? A'ight.

Dude, revenue is one of the least interesting numbers in accounting, profit is much more interesting, especially in this discussion.
Also, number of items sold is more important, because you were talking about the number of people who buy an MBP compared to the amount of people who buy an iPad, so yes, number of items sold is more important.

I don't want this to end up in a flame war, so please reply in a PM if you need a class in economics.
 
Just to get clearance on this, assuming from the leaks from german, and french sources, are they getting a world wide release? I'm in London with access to three apple stores, so getting it via Apple isn't a problem, I'm just wondering if there is a time delay between release as I've no idea on previous track record.
 
Just a message for you April 2010 and Imac 2009 and above owners The Face time Hd you will all have as well because the current iSight camera's already have a 1280x1024 resolution but get downsampled to 640x480 for video chats. Maybe apple now will remove the restriction on the Imacs and MBP.

Wow really?? I did not know that.
 
Update: We have been told by two separate sources that the white 13 inch MacBooks are not on the brink of discontinuation. We’ll have to see how the new Apple notebook lineup works out… seems too cozy at this point.


....okay now i am scared
 
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Guess my Wishlist of
1440x900
Core i5
Nvidia 330
Ssd for os
Less than $1450 probably won't happen. That stinks.
 
There goes your battery life though when you put the dedicated gpu in it running at a higher resolution.

And if it was as easy as just popping in a gpu inside the chassis in a minute then I'm sure they would offer a dedicated gpu option. I don't think it is that easy. Probably requires a different internal design. Another assembly line at the factory maybe? Another model for retail to stock and learn about?

All for what? The few gamers that want to buy 13" mbps for $1500 to play Windows games who just refuse to step up to the 15" MBP?

First, it's not that I refuse to "step up" to the 15". If you check my sig, you'll see I got a 15" MBP when they released the 9600 cards. The 9600 *was* a decent GPU. The thing is, for a laptop that I use every day for work and school, I hate the 15" and 17" form factors. I'd personally buy an Air in a second if it could handle my work load; but in reality, it struggles a bit.

So, the 13" MBP is just about the perfect size/performance. The *only* thing holding it back is the screen and GPU. I'm not asking for a badass, top-of-the-line card; I want a step up. A GT330, maybe. A 335 would be GREAT, but I know that it just wouldn't work with the thermal limits of the chassis.

Yeah, it might hurt battery a bit; but that's why we have Optimus now. Just want to type on Word and browse the net? Enjoy about 12 hrs of battery? When I need to spend the day in Photoshop and Illustrator, I could expect a solid 7 or 8 hours out of it. But, in the cases when I'm away from my gaming desktop, or want to go to a LAN party with my buddies, I could grab my small 13" MBP, and enjoy some L4D2, Black Ops, and Battlefield for 4 hours or so.

Secondly, while I agree in its current iteration, just throwing a different GPU in the model would likely be difficult and require increased lines/manpower. But, for all the accolades and praise Apple gets for their engineering abilities and designs; you'd think they could have nipped the problem in the bud from the beginning.

Let me say, I'm as big of a fan of Apple as anyone here (well, almost. :p ). And I understand the whole "Well, Apple won't ever put a good GPU in the 13", so just deal with it."

But, whhhhhyyyy? Charge me $200 for a $40 upgrade. I honestly don't care. And, judging from this thread, there's a HUGE market for getting a decent GPU in the 13". Anecdotal, I know, but I'm sure I could convince a few of my friends to get a MBP if they started actually caring about what GPUs they put in their computers.
 
Apple has moved to using a sensor capable of 1280x1024 pixels, but when accessed using provided APIs, the image is re-sampled to 640x480 pixels. However, Quartz Composer allows access to the 1280x1024 pixel video stream. The built-in iSight can also be used in the Photo Booth application.

Yes i was right. phew!!!!!!!!
 
Why do I have a funny feeling...

that some dude over in Europe, who is obviously being very selective of the info/photos he's posting, is enjoying every second of our misery?
 
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The M11x is also almost a quarter inch thicker and has a CPU with half the TDP of the one in the current MBP. Not a good basis for comparison.
Your mileage may vary.

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It is in terms of the screen. I wouldn't want to use an 11" or 13" screen for gaming either, but if I had to choose, I'd pick the one with the higher resolution . . . . or hook it up to a larger display.

Sure, but if we're talking screen alone, I can refer to the MBP 17" and wonder why it doesn't have dual 5870's like the M17x. We have to be realistic to the form factor and components used.
 
GOD EFFIN' HELL!

Can't those buffoons capture the whole MacBook (Pro) or box? I would love to discern whether there is MacBook or MacBook Pro written all over the stupid box. It really seems like these rumors are trickling out just slow enough to keep us stupid Apple addicts refreshing their stupid rumor pages all day long.

I'm fed up and angry, does it show?

Rant over.
 
Sure, but if we're talking screen alone, I can refer to the MBP 17" and wonder why it doesn't have dual 5870's like the M17x. We have to be realistic to the form factor and components used.

Yeah, but asking for a bump from the 220 to a 320 or a bit better is a lot different than asking for two massive, energy-sucking GPUs in a laptop that's just a couple square inches bigger.

The M11x, yes, is a bit thicker. But it's also a lot shorter and nearly as wide. If Apple would get rid of the Superdrive, I'm sure they could figure it out..
 
All i want to know is the 13' model going to be able to play SC2. I dont need high setting just a pleasurable experience of SC2. If it can do that then im sold!

you dont want to play SC2 in low settings believe me. it was playable with the 320m in medium with a few minor tweaks
 
Specs on Thunderbolt?

Talk about takeing the PC world by storm!

Thunderbolt (or rather LightPeak) comes from the PC world. What do you think Intel represents? Apple will not be the only company offering LP. Sony was reported to be part of the announcement.
 
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