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I highly doubt this. The Air is very much a niche product, while the MacBook is far more appealing to the general consumer.

I disagree. I think the MacBook Air is the mainstream product now that meets the needs of the vast majority of customers. It has a fast SSD, it's very light, has a processor more than capable of serving the needs of everyday users (email, web surfing, basic photo editing/sharing) and is affordable. I think the MacBook should disappear in the refresh. I don't really see the point of the 13" MBP either unless they really bump the specs in the refresh.

I have a 17" MBP basically gathering dust now. I use the 27" iMac for all my every day work. And when I'm on the road, it's the MBA that goes in my bag. There's no way I want to cart the 17" MBP around with me on trips anymore. I find the Air is more than sufficient for my needs.

Obviously there are others who absolutely need the horsepower of the high-end 15"/17" MBPs. But you are in the minority. As Alex Lindsay keeps saying on MacBreak Weekly, he's increasingly concerned Apple is going to toss you people aside somewhere down the road.
 
Happy to finally read up some news on a possible refresh on the MBP front. It might not mean something, but at least it lives up my hopes :)

Looking forward to any related news! (and secretly hoping the 13" MBP doesn't get ditched) ;)

It's my favorite of the current shipping Macs, but I'm pretty convinced that it's a gonner.

dear god i hope not! 1,4ghz cpu for 1000$ come on...the 1 that needs to be canceled is the "pro" 13".
there should be a white macbook 13" (like the 2008 one, not this one, its like an egg), the mba 11+13 and then the pros aluminium. or maybe an air from plastic :O

+1 though don't return to the pre-unibody design as that had so many flaws to it, it's not even funny. But certainly restore its featureset and give it, at least a similar design that's Unibody.

I disagree. I think the MacBook Air is the mainstream product now that meets the needs of the vast majority of customers.

If by "vast majority of customers" you mean "MacBook Air customers" then sure, I'll agree. Otherwise, you're full of it.

It has a fast SSD, it's very light, has a processor more than capable of serving the needs of everyday users (email, web surfing, basic photo editing/sharing) and is affordable.

The 13" Air isn't anywhere near as affordable as the white MacBook, and the 11" Air is a joke when you put it side by side with any of the larger screened computers.

I think the MacBook should disappear in the refresh.

Tell that to (a) The entire education industry and (b) people who want a full featured Mac without breaking $1000 (before tax). I'm sure they'll happily disagree with you.

I don't really see the point of the 13" MBP either unless they really bump the specs in the refresh.

While I don't want to (because it is my favorite Mac model in the line-up today), I'll definitely agree with you there.

I have a 17" MBP basically gathering dust now. I use the 27" iMac for all my every day work. And when I'm on the road, it's the MBA that goes in my bag. There's no way I want to cart the 17" MBP around with me on trips anymore.

No kidding, who the hell buys a 17" MacBook Pro expecting it to be all that portable?

I find the Air is more than sufficient for my needs.

Obviously there are others who absolutely need the horsepower of the high-end 15"/17" MBPs. But you are in the minority. As Alex Lindsay keeps saying on MacBreak Weekly, he's increasingly concerned Apple is going to toss you people aside somewhere down the road.

Then apparently, Alex Lindsay is just as uninformed as you are. More people buy MacBook Pros than do MacBook Airs, and that's not likely to change anytime soon.
 
I think I am about to chime in at about the right time. I think you are onto something saying that no one buys a 17" MBP thinking portability. With it being the one out of stock, I think it may be transforming into a 17" iMac. Some of the rumors I have read have also talked about a more "mainstream pricepoint" for iMac.

So my theory goes;

MBA 11" base price $999
MBP 13" base price $999
17" iMac base price $999

No more 13" plastic model, replace by the aluminum 13" pro to avoid confusion. With my theory, it simplifies the purchase for the consumer, asking the question, what do you want to do with your mac? Of course I am also assuming MBP gets a processor upgrade.

If you want a light ultra portable, choose from the air line.
If you want a laptop with faster processors, and optical drives, choose the MBP line.
If you want a desktop, choose the iMac line...

Anyone else think I might be on to something?
 
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I think I am about to chime in at about the right time. I think you are onto something saying that no one buys a 17" MBP thinking portability. With it being the one out of stock, I think it may be transforming into a 17" iMac. Some of the rumors I have read have also talked about a more "mainstream pricepoint" for iMac.

So my theory goes;

MBA 11" base price $999
MBP 13" base price $999
17" iMac base price $999

No more 13" plastic model, replace by the aluminum 13" pro to avoid confusion. With my theory, it simplifies the purchase for the consumer, asking the question, what do you want to do with your mac? Of course I am also assuming MBP gets a processor upgrade.

If you want a light ultra portable, choose from the air line.
If you want a laptop with faster processors, and optical drives, choose the MBP line.
If you want a desktop, choose the iMac line...

Anyone else think I might be on to something?

They have an iMac at the $1200 price point, and below that they have the Mac mini. The plastic model white MacBook is the MOST DURABLE laptop Apple makes, making it far more of a target for the education market. It's the 13" Pro that'll be taken out to avoid confusion, though really, nothing is getting removed to avoid confusion. The 13" Pro is getting axed because it is too similar in performance to the other two 13" Macs, and because unlike the other two 13" Macs, it being a "MacBook Pro", it is expected to gain BOTH a GPU AND a CPU boost that it can't realistically get in this next refresh.
 
I think I am about to chime in at about the right time. I think you are onto something saying that no one buys a 17" MBP thinking portability. With it being the one out of stock, I think it may be transforming into a 17" iMac. Some of the rumors I have read have also talked about a more "mainstream pricepoint" for iMac.

So my theory goes;

MBA 11" base price $999
MBP 13" base price $999
17" iMac base price $999

No more 13" plastic model, replace by the aluminum 13" pro to avoid confusion. With my theory, it simplifies the purchase for the consumer, asking the question, what do you want to do with your mac? Of course I am also assuming MBP gets a processor upgrade.

If you want a light ultra portable, choose from the air line.
If you want a laptop with faster processors, and optical drives, choose the MBP line.
If you want a desktop, choose the iMac line...

Anyone else think I might be on to something?

+1

Also, ditching the plastic MB would make all of the products fit into that aluminum/black theme that Apple's been really into lately.
 
Update on the next update, after Lion is released.
That is my recommendation.

Lion release in ~Nov 2011.
Next line up update after the one happening this Feb will be ~Feb2012.
 
+1

Also, ditching the plastic MB would make all of the products fit into that aluminum/black theme that Apple's been really into lately.

...And would piss the crap out of the Education sector, THEIR LARGEST CONCENTRATED CUSTOMER BASE! Let alone the fact that it is THE CHEAPEST FULL FEATURED PORTABLE MAC ON THE MARKET! Man, does no one here take either fact into consideration? It's not like the white MacBook isn't being sold at all here!

Update on the next update, after Lion is released.
That is my recommendation.

Lion release in ~Nov 2011.
Next line up update after the one happening this Feb will be ~Feb2012.

Lion will be out before November 2011. Likely not by Summer, but likely not that late either. This round will have a newer install disc set and a mid-cycle change to what comes pre-loaded, just buy this next refresh with Lion pre-installed.
 
...And would piss the crap out of the Education sector, THEIR LARGEST CONCENTRATED CUSTOMER BASE! Let alone the fact that it is THE CHEAPEST FULL FEATURED PORTABLE MAC ON THE MARKET! Man, does no one here take either fact into consideration? It's not like the white MacBook isn't being sold at all here!

I'm in the education sector and more people use/need the 13" MBP instead, primarily because of the SD card slot. Also, that is the best-selling Mac by far to students- if you step onto a college campus, you occasionally see a plastic MB, but you see 13" MBPs everywhere. As for public schools, budgets are so tight right now that purchasing any kind of Mac is laughable. Most districts have switched to PCs. The county that I'm student-teaching in is standardized on Toshiba and my mom's county is standardized on Dell.
 
I'm going to predict:

- MacBook white discontinued
- MacBook Air becomes the standard MacBook

If they can get the MBA 13 to 999 I would agree. Frankly there is little reason for the MBP 13 to exist anymore.
 
You seem to forget that (a) Internet bandwidth isn't fast enough to download or install some programs in a timely manner, let alone within the same twelve hour span of time, (b) that the Mac App Store doesn't have big-name programs like, Microsoft Office, any of the Adobe apps, or any of the Apple Pro apps save for Remote Desktop and Aperture (gee, you think that might be because all of their other apps are just too big to not be distributed on DVDs? Or is that too obvious of a conclusion.), and (c) there are still many of us who still rely on the use of an internal ODD...
A bit irrelevant since most large installs are for pro-oriented software that cost half as much as the entry-level MacBook itself. That being, if you are a "pro" and use pro-level software then you'll have other ways to install software like from an external optical drive or from a shared distribution point at work or at the home office (like via a LAN or a remotely mounted optical drive). You say you don't want to be bothered by carrying around an external drive? I say, how many times have you had to install a mega-megabyte program from a CD/DVD while riding the train/subway, etc. to or from some destination (or under any situation while being completely mobile)?

The only widespread problem I can see for large installs would be for games, but then again serious gamers aren't going to balk at getting an external optical drive. However, if they could forgo the optical drive and get another hour of gaming while running on a larger battery then I think they'd make that compromise.

There could also be a pretty big, but admittedly self-serving incentive for Apple to remove optical drives from their computers, since that would nearly guarantee a monster success for the Mac App Store. The more quickly and completely software moves to online distribution the faster Apple will make their 30% cut from potentially all or nearly all software sales. I'm not trying to be conspiratorial (i.e. bad and greedy Apple), but that could represent a win, win, win for Apple, their customers, and even for many software developers (as for the latter, just look at what happened to Pixelmator).

Lastly, if you think large installs over the internet are going to be problem then why are so many in the industry rushing to streaming video delivery rather than relying on DVDs/Blu-rays? Apple has been pretty adamant about that and even NetFlix is saying that internet-based content delivery is the future (and they are currently the largest distributor of DVDs in the U.S.). It's practically the same argument, the cost savings and convenience of internet-based delivery are just too great to continue with physical discs and packaging.
Yebubbleman said:
...Your argument loses just about all of its weight here. As do most arguments that are prefaced with "if the 13" MacBook Pro lost its optical drive...".
I could say the same thing about your arguments as to why Apple needs to keep building notebook computers with internal optical drives. You seem to be pretty close to making an out of hand dismissal of my point of view.
Yebubbleman said:
...The 13" MBP isn't getting Sandy Bridge if Sandy Bridge's IGP doesn't support OpenCL, so either save the extra and get a 15" MBP or suck it up and get a Core 2 Duo based Mac.
Okay, so you dismiss my argument that the 13" MacBook Pro could gain a more powerful GPU by dropping the optical drive and then you turn around in the very next paragraph and tell someone else that they should just "suck it up" and get a Core 2 Duo because any re-design of the 13" MacBook Pro would have to be limited to the Sandy Bridge's IGP. You seem to be trying to find every excuse possible to keep the MacBooks in their current configurations, hardware that sounds awfully like any generic PC (or worse) that you'd find at a discount electronic store. I believe that you mentioned earlier that you work with customers to determine what they should buy, you don't happen to work at Best Buy? Okay, so that's a pretty low blow and an unfair stereotype, I apologize. :)

In any case, it's my opinion that the optical drive is going away fairly soon. If it doesn't happen this year on the redesigned MacBook Pros then it will happen in 2012. The question then becomes, how forward looking is Apple going to be and how much risk are they willing to take to make a quick and clean break with the past and move on to what I (or they) believe is a better or more balanced solution for the majority of their customers? I think the MacBook Airs (which Apple has already said represent the future of MacBooks) and the recently opened Mac App Store indicate that this change may be closer than many might think. Would I be devastated if the newly redesigned MacBook Pros keep their optical drives? No, not in any way, and I'd admit that internal optical drives might stay for another year. However, if Apple can drop the optical drive from the 13" MacBook Pro and use that space for the additional features that I've previously proposed then I'd be jumping for joy and literally be rushing out to buy a new MacBook Pro.
 
I'm in the education sector and more people use/need the 13" MBP instead, primarily because of the SD card slot.

Unless this is a new student teaching practice that I'm unfamiliar with, this seems like another case of "I need this feature, therefore everyone needs this feature". Out of the dozens of people I've talked to about the differences between the 13" MacBook Pro and the white MacBook, you're the only one who seems to care about the SD card slot. I mean, really, it should be standard on all Macs (MacBook and Mac Pro included), but you're the only one I've run into that seems to depend on that feature.

Also, that is the best-selling Mac by far to students- if you step onto a college campus, you occasionally see a plastic MB, but you see 13" MBPs everywhere.

College is a luxury, a 13" MacBook Pro over a white MacBook is a luxury. It's not far-fetched to assume that if one can afford the former, they can also afford the latter, especially when most people are only buying the 13" Pro because it is prettier and not because they are even aware of the very few technical differences between the two. I recently graduated from a four-year university. Before the 13" Pro existed, people coveted the Aluminum MacBook. Before that, the MacBook was the best selling model that everyone was after. If you kill the 13" Pro, something else will take the place of "most sold Apple laptop", I guarantee it.

As for public schools, budgets are so tight right now that purchasing any kind of Mac is laughable.

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? I certainly would. I've seen my university squander thousands on the then-new 24" iMacs just because the reference librarians wanted more screen real-estate. Nevermind that a Mac mini with an external monitor would've been far more affordable and have served just as well. Also, some schools have anywhere from half to their entire IT infrastructure based on OS X. In theory, all public institutions should switch to PCs because they're cheaper, but in practice that's not what's happening, hence the California Budget Crisis with specific regards to the Education Budget. Trust me, I saw that all happen first hand. It made me want to kill a small animal and I love small animals!

Most districts have switched to PCs. The county that I'm student-teaching in is standardized on Toshiba and my mom's county is standardized on Dell.

Again, that's not true of all districts in all states, nor of all types of institutions. A lot of them still use Macs. At my workplace we had eight or so MacBooks come in for repair from a local school. It's still pretty mixed.

If they can get the MBA 13 to 999 I would agree. Frankly there is little reason for the MBP 13 to exist anymore.

+1
 
I can't see the 13" MBP getting axed. It's one of the best selling (if not the best selling) macs in the lineup. What's the solution if you're a guy who wants a relatively powerful computer that you can put a disc into while still keeping it portable and without the girly white colour? In my school so many people have the 13" MBP, easily the most popular laptop around here.
 
Unless this is a new student teaching practice that I'm unfamiliar with, this seems like another case of "I need this feature, therefore everyone needs this feature". Out of the dozens of people I've talked to about the differences between the 13" MacBook Pro and the white MacBook, you're the only one who seems to care about the SD card slot. I mean, really, it should be standard on all Macs (MacBook and Mac Pro included), but you're the only one I've run into that seems to depend on that feature.



College is a luxury, a 13" MacBook Pro over a white MacBook is a luxury. It's not far-fetched to assume that if one can afford the former, they can also afford the latter, especially when most people are only buying the 13" Pro because it is prettier and not because they are even aware of the very few technical differences between the two. I recently graduated from a four-year university. Before the 13" Pro existed, people coveted the Aluminum MacBook. Before that, the MacBook was the best selling model that everyone was after. If you kill the 13" Pro, something else will take the place of "most sold Apple laptop", I guarantee it.



You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? I certainly would. I've seen my university squander thousands on the then-new 24" iMacs just because the reference librarians wanted more screen real-estate. Nevermind that a Mac mini with an external monitor would've been far more affordable and have served just as well. Also, some schools have anywhere from half to their entire IT infrastructure based on OS X. In theory, all public institutions should switch to PCs because they're cheaper, but in practice that's not what's happening, hence the California Budget Crisis with specific regards to the Education Budget. Trust me, I saw that all happen first hand. It made me want to kill a small animal and I love small animals!



Again, that's not true of all districts in all states, nor of all types of institutions. A lot of them still use Macs. At my workplace we had eight or so MacBooks come in for repair from a local school. It's still pretty mixed.



+1

I'm referring to high, middle, and elementary schools, not universities. They're going to drop pricy Macs over cutting teachers (which they're having to do anyway). As for the SD slot, college students take a *******-ton of pictures and can't be bothered with an external reader. Almost everyone I asked about why they chose the Pro over the MB included the SD reader in their explanation (portability and HD size being other factors). Yes, a few did choose it over the other because it's shinier, etc., but that doesn't change the fact that it's the best selling Mac to college students.
 
I'm referring to high, middle, and elementary schools, not universities. They're going to drop pricy Macs over cutting teachers (which they're having to do anyway).

You want to take a bet on that? Even in K-12, I know tons of teachers that are about to lose their jobs while their department gets the latest iMacs. It's terrible.

As for the SD slot, college students take a *******-ton of pictures and can't be bothered with an external reader. Almost everyone I asked about why they chose the Pro over the MB included the SD reader in their explanation (portability and HD size being other factors).

What about the camera they took the pictures on? It's not like transfering those pictures from the camera directly to the computer is any more inconvenient than removing the small SD card, sticking it in the computer and then sticking it back in the camera when everything was done. I guess it's less portable, but having to keep an SD card safe seems like a slightly greater hassle.



Yes, a few did choose it over the other because it's shinier, etc., but that doesn't change the fact that it's the best selling Mac to college students.

Sure it does! Kill that machine and then the white MacBook takes back that crown because at that point it'll be the more affordable machine.
 
A bit irrelevant since most large installs are for pro-oriented software that cost half as much as the entry-level MacBook itself. That being, if you are a "pro" and use pro-level software then you'll have other ways to install software like from an external optical drive or from a shared distribution point at work or at the home office (like via a LAN or a remotely mounted optical drive). You say you don't want to be bothered by carrying around an external drive? I say, how many times have you had to install a mega-megabyte program from a CD/DVD while riding the train/subway, etc. to or from some destination (or under any situation while being completely mobile)?

The only widespread problem I can see for large installs would be for games, but then again serious gamers aren't going to balk at getting an external optical drive. However, if they could forgo the optical drive and get another hour of gaming while running on a larger battery then I think they'd make that compromise.

There could also be a pretty big, but admittedly self-serving incentive for Apple to remove optical drives from their computers, since that would nearly guarantee a monster success for the Mac App Store. The more quickly and completely software moves to online distribution the faster Apple will make their 30% cut from potentially all or nearly all software sales. I'm not trying to be conspiratorial (i.e. bad and greedy Apple), but that could represent a win, win, win for Apple, their customers, and even for many software developers (as for the latter, just look at what happened to Pixelmator).

Lastly, if you think large installs over the internet are going to be problem then why are so many in the industry rushing to streaming video delivery rather than relying on DVDs/Blu-rays? Apple has been pretty adamant about that and even NetFlix is saying that internet-based content delivery is the future (and they are currently the largest distributor of DVDs in the U.S.). It's practically the same argument, the cost savings and convenience of internet-based delivery are just too great to continue with physical discs and packaging.

I could say the same thing about your arguments as to why Apple needs to keep building notebook computers with internal optical drives. You seem to be pretty close to making an out of hand dismissal of my point of view.

Okay, so you dismiss my argument that the 13" MacBook Pro could gain a more powerful GPU by dropping the optical drive and then you turn around in the very next paragraph and tell someone else that they should just "suck it up" and get a Core 2 Duo because any re-design of the 13" MacBook Pro would have to be limited to the Sandy Bridge's IGP. You seem to be trying to find every excuse possible to keep the MacBooks in their current configurations, hardware that sounds awfully like any generic PC (or worse) that you'd find at a discount electronic store. I believe that you mentioned earlier that you work with customers to determine what they should buy, you don't happen to work at Best Buy? Okay, so that's a pretty low blow and an unfair stereotype, I apologize. :)

In any case, it's my opinion that the optical drive is going away fairly soon. If it doesn't happen this year on the redesigned MacBook Pros then it will happen in 2012. The question then becomes, how forward looking is Apple going to be and how much risk are they willing to take to make a quick and clean break with the past and move on to what I (or they) believe is a better or more balanced solution for the majority of their customers? I think the MacBook Airs (which Apple has already said represent the future of MacBooks) and the recently opened Mac App Store indicate that this change may be closer than many might think. Would I be devastated if the newly redesigned MacBook Pros keep their optical drives? No, not in any way, and I'd admit that internal optical drives might stay for another year. However, if Apple can drop the optical drive from the 13" MacBook Pro and use that space for the additional features that I've previously proposed then I'd be jumping for joy and literally be rushing out to buy a new MacBook Pro.

(1) Barring any thing that involves the external SuperDrive as that is truly inconvenient, how do I take my MacBook Pro to my girlfriend's house and watch one of her movies on my computer without an optical drive? How do I do that with one of the movies she owns digitally? If my computer fails while I'm at her house, how to I reinstall all of my software (which I carry in my laptop bag), especially if the Internet at her house is flakey?

(2) The Mac App Store is still way young; you don't see any Adobe or Microsoft apps there. You don't see Final Cut Studio, Logic Studio, or the "Express" equivalents there (presumably because they are too huge). You'll never see trials, betas, or demos there. It is an incomplete offering. Jobs himself said that it would never be "The only place to discover apps, just the best."

(3) Streaming/VoD Rentals will replace physical disc rentals. Hell, they already have. The same isn't true of purchases. Quite the opposite, actually. This is why DVDs are still being sold, but rental places are going out of business. It makes sense for rental media to come over the Internet. It doesn't make sense to purchase media that way unless it's music.

(4) The 13" MacBook Pro could get a discrete GPU if Apple took out either the ODD or the HDD, and I don't think they'll do either as doing so will make the computer cost even more money, making it not fit in the line anymore. It's unrealistic, which is why I dismiss your arguments. It's a nice fairy tale, but I wouldn't bank on it and neither should you.

(5) 10 hours (7, realistically, and 3-4 while gaming) of battery life is plenty. I don't know anyone who needs to be without their MagSafe adapter any longer than that. So what's the point of extra battery life then?
 
All these people saying the 13MBP is going to be axed are on drugs! Why would a company stop making their best selling computer?

Because they can't get it to perform satisfactorily and half of their customer base knows it.

It wouldn't be the first time Apple has axed their best selling product when it was their best selling product.
 
If by "vast majority of customers" you mean "MacBook Air customers" then sure, I'll agree. Otherwise, you're full of it.

The 13" Air isn't anywhere near as affordable as the white MacBook, and the 11" Air is a joke when you put it side by side with any of the larger screened computers.

The 11" Air maybe a joke in your opinion. But many tech experts love it, even hardcore Windows users love the hardware. :)

Tell that to (a) The entire education industry and (b) people who want a full featured Mac without breaking $1000 (before tax). I'm sure they'll happily disagree with you.

The 11" MacBook Air is perfect on price (you ignore it because you think it's a joke, but it's just your opinion). Many in education are recommending the 11" MBA to their students. I heard one teacher on a podcast last week saying their two recommended purchases are the MacBook Air and the iPod Touch or iPhone because it has the camera.

No kidding, who the hell buys a 17" MacBook Pro expecting it to be all that portable?

People were buying them because they thought they needed a powerful machine that could go on the road with them when necessary. But it turns out all that CPU power is unnecessary for many of us. The MacBook Air is more than adequate when coupled with SSD and 4gb RAM. I have seen many, many comments from owners of 15"/17" MacBook Pros saying they won't buy another one because the MacBook Air does what they need.

Then apparently, Alex Lindsay is just as uninformed as you are. More people buy MacBook Pros than do MacBook Airs, and that's not likely to change anytime soon.

We'll see. MacBook Airs have been selling like hot cakes by all accounts since the 2010 models were introduced. Of course as long as there is a viable business around selling MacBook Pros then Apple will continue the product line. The question is how much longer will customers want bulky, expensive 15" / 17" laptops once they have experienced the portability of products like the MacBook Air? I'm not expecting the MBP to go away anytime soon. But it will become an increasingly niche product that fewer and fewer customers buy when faced with alternatives like the MBA and iPad.
 
Because they can't get it to perform satisfactorily and half of their customer base knows it.

It wouldn't be the first time Apple has axed their best selling product when it was their best selling product.

Half their customer base? Are you sure you don't mean a handful of people on this website?
 
I just red an interesting point regarding this news of tightening supplies. It seems unlogical that the "cheaper" resellers (Amazon, BestBuy etc)would run short on supplies, while usually it's Apple's online store or Premium Resellers who are running out first.

I've no idea how valid this point may be, but didn't found it here yet, and found it intersting enough to share.
If this is true, it makes it less probable that a refresh is imminent within the next 2-6 weeks. Either way, my hopes are still up ;)
 
The 11" MacBook Air is perfect on price (you ignore it because you think it's a joke, but it's just your opinion). Many in education are recommending the 11" MBA to their students. I heard one teacher on a podcast last week saying their two recommended purchases are the MacBook Air and the iPod Touch or iPhone because it has the camera.

I agree. I see education handing out more Airs than MB White in the future once they catch on to the pros of an Air. Hence why I believe MBWhite will last only one more refresh before the axe. [It's not like students need OD to install stuff, are they even allowed to?]

MacBook Airs have been selling like hot cakes by all accounts since the 2010 models were introduced. Of course as long as there is a viable business around selling MacBook Pros then Apple will continue the product line. The question is how much longer will customers want bulky, expensive 15" / 17" laptops once they have experienced the portability of products like the MacBook Air? I'm not expecting the MBP to go away anytime soon. But it will become an increasingly niche product that fewer and fewer customers buy when faced with alternatives like the MBA and iPad.

15/17" MBPs will remain. They might start to share specs with the Air in 2012 but not in this upcoming refresh.
 
MBP 17' Sandy Bridge i5 Quad-core 3.3GHZ HERE YOU COMETH!

WOOOHOOOO!
 
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