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Just wondering, what if I keep my macbook pro which is supposed to come in two days. Say I keep it for 2 years and then decide to sell it on ebay or some other similar store. What do you think will be the most I can get for it. I paid roughly $2500, but normally it would cost $2700.(student discount)

It has 3.06 ghz processor core 2 duo
15" glossy
4gigs of ram
500 gigs @ 7200 rpm
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT with 512MB
sd card slot

and all the other standard stuff.

So yea what do guys think I will get for this macbook in roughly 2 years time.
 
what do guys think I will get for this macbook in roughly 2 years time.

In 2 years time your computer will be roadkill. Then we will have better chips, cpu and more cores. You will have usb3, sata3, cheaper ssd, blu-ray, perhaps apples and intels lightwhateverconnection. A macbook by then will stomp the core2duo into the ground. I would think $500 or so.
 
In 2 years time your computer will be roadkill. Then we will have better chips, cpu and more cores. A macbook by then will stomp the core2duo into the ground. I would think $500 or so.

I have a Core (not Core2) Duo Macbook, with 1G 666MHz RAM. It was $1299 when I bought it, in 2006 (https://www.macrumors.com/2006/05/16/apple-macbook-intel-ibook-released/)

I bet I could get over $500 for it. There's refurbished ones on ebay for a 1000 pounds!

A MacBook Pro (with a bigger screen, etc) that's only 2 years out of date will go for a lot more.

Now, I wouldn't buy a 2 year old computer, but some people will. And Apple hardware holds value very well (unless it breaks).

To answer the original question: I'd guess $1000. I wouldn't buy it, but somebody else might. Or it might be as low as $800. Unless Macs go out of fashion, or prices drop a lot, then people will still pay a reasonable amount for a Mac laptop with a big screen and dedicated graphics.
 
I have a Core (not Core2) Duo Macbook, with 1G 666MHz RAM. It was $1299 when I bought it, in 2006 (https://www.macrumors.com/2006/05/16/apple-macbook-intel-ibook-released/)

I bet I could get over $500 for it. There's refurbished ones on ebay for a 1000 pounds!

A MacBook Pro (with a bigger screen, etc) that's only 2 years out of date will go for a lot more.

Now, I wouldn't buy a 2 year old computer, but some people will. And Apple hardware holds value very well (unless it breaks).

See further added explanation WHY this will not be true even from macheads like us. It's a tech shift right now. 2core->2core4threads->4core8threads and so on. Plus all new external connections that the macbook has none of. In 2 years time you will not want to be without those.
 
Another vital reason for 5400 rpm drives is that they're quieter, and Apple pays attention to the overall computing experience — including noise (recall how they once claimed the PowerPC iMacs were virtually silent, as they did with the Cube too).

While I don't disagree with you, worrying about the hard drive noise on a MBP is like worrying about a shark attack while swimming in a sea of piranhas. These babies do and always have gotten hot, and the fans are far from silent. Granted, they are better today than the ones from several generations ago that sounded like a 747 taking off from O'Hare. But I'm typing this to you now, not "doing" anything (nor have I been) actively CPU-intensive, with both fans spinning at 2000 rpm.
 
Another vital reason for 5400 rpm drives is that they're quieter, and Apple pays attention to the overall computing experience — including noise (recall how they once claimed the PowerPC iMacs were virtually silent, as they did with the Cube too).

7200 rpm drives have a tendency to whistle and whine a little, in my experience, and I've had quite a few. Imperceptibly, perhaps, but it's there. end Quote]




That depends on the hard drive. I replaced the factory 5400 rpm drive in my MacBook Pro with a 7200 rpm drive and the machine is virtually silent. The load times are much better now, and there is no difference in power consumption.
 
While I don't disagree with you, worrying about the hard drive noise on a MBP is like worrying about a shark attack while swimming in a sea of piranhas. These babies do and always have gotten hot, and the fans are far from silent. Granted, they are better today than the ones from several generations ago that sounded like a 747 taking off from O'Hare. But I'm typing this to you now, not "doing" anything (nor have I been) actively CPU-intensive, with both fans spinning at 2000 rpm.

While I don't disagree with you because as necessary my MBP can make some noise, 2000 rpm fan speed is default, so that should be the case as you idly surf the net... In my experience though, 2000rpm is almost SILENT. Either you have better hearing or your fans may not be as quiet...

I really wanted the 7200rpm HDD for quicker speeds - is it much of an improvement and is it really all that loud? Does it drain your battery more if you're just surfing the net since the HDD shouldn't be spinning up much?

Thanks!
 
While I don't disagree with you because as necessary my MBP can make some noise, 2000 rpm fan speed is default, so that should be the case as you idly surf the net... In my experience though, 2000rpm is almost SILENT. Either you have better hearing or your fans may not be as quiet...

I really wanted the 7200rpm HDD for quicker speeds - is it much of an improvement and is it really all that loud? Does it drain your battery more if you're just surfing the net since the HDD shouldn't be spinning up much?

Thanks!

Yeah, I bet my fans may be slightly on the noisier side. I know there's a lot of variation from fan to fan, just because they're manufactured more cheaply. That said, when you go past the default, it's *really* easy to hear.

I had a 7200rpm drive a few generations ago. My answer is an emphatic YES for it being an improvement and NO for noise -- and that was back in 2006. I found the battery impact to be negligible. It's a change I'd highly, highly endorse -- especially given how easy it is to upgrade the HD in the unibodies.
 
there is not going to an Macbook Pro release until after the iPad starts shipping why would they release anything before the iPad release and compromise sales, the new MBP line are ready and waiting have been since FEB7 but they won't get the green light to sell until after we've all bought an iPad.


Okay, okay I'll buy the damn ipad right now if you give me my MBP, too.
 
So yea what do guys think I will get for this macbook in roughly 2 years time.

Depends on how much the tech changes over the next 2 years. If this tablet craze holds out and we see a massive transition away from notebook styled computers in favor of these things the value of your MBP might be brought down. I doubt we'll see the end of laptops anytime soon, but if 3D becomes standard, if some new connectivity method or interface pops up that everyone wants...

I wouldn't count on the resale value of your computer to be anything. It could break, or it could become obsolete. Get what you need, use it for as long as it is useful, and if you can sell it when you're done, appreciate whatever you can get and repeat the process!
 
No where in that Seagate PDF did I see 15% more power consumption. In most cases, it was only 0.1-0.2 watt difference between the 5400 and 7200 rpm drives.

As to noise, Seagate's document seems to indicate that the noise difference is so close that the human ear can't differentiate between the 2.

Yes, I read the entire Seagate document (I work in IT, reading documentation is a requirement of my role).

Dave
 
See further added explanation WHY this will not be true even from macheads like us. It's a tech shift right now. 2core->2core4threads->4core8threads and so on. Plus all new external connections that the macbook has none of. In 2 years time you will not want to be without those.

Huh? I buy the connections argument (USB3, Blu-ray, 3G - most of which Apple will lag on for another year or so anyway) but why do the cores matter?

2core -> 4core8threads is like .... a 0% speed boost for 90% of most people's tasks. A faster HDD (SSD!) and faster internet ... sure, but most tasks are bandwidth / read speed limited.

If you really want to run BLAS or PS or something like that, then it's just a question of how well you can parallelize the code. And if the code can be split up onto 8 threads (wow, 4-8X speedup), it can be run on CUDA (which uses the video card) at which point the CPU is meaningless.

A faster CPU is great. More cores is ... kinda good to have. But it's not going to change the fact that that most people just want to download lolcats.

An old Macbook Pro still has - lots of RAM, a decent video card, a fast CPU (2 cores FWIW), a nice sized screen, and a shiny metal case that says "Mac" and "Pro". There are lots of people who go for that sort of thing.
 
Hey guys,

are there any signs that there will be a MB (not MBP) update in the next weeks?!

I think MBPs are upgraded first, right?

To fire up the discussion of selling old Apple laptops:

A friend of mine just sold a Powerbook G4 15" (2005 Model) on ebay (germany) for 400 € (540,16 US$).. That's just sick.
 
Hey guys,

are there any signs that there will be a MB (not MBP) update in the next weeks?!

I think MBPs are upgraded first, right?

To fire up the discussion of selling old Apple laptops:

A friend of mine just sold a Powerbook G4 15" (2005 Model) on ebay (germany) for 400 € (540,16 US$).. That's just sick.

I keep waiting for the user who will post, "NEW MBPS TOMORROW! FOR SURE!"

Offering no evidence. It has become a weekly thing. lol
 
I heard from a homeless guy with a bottle of Stoli outside an Apple Store that he definitely saw a bunch of suspicious looking boxes being loaded into the store last night. He said that means we're virtually guaranteed to have updates tomorrow.
 
I bought a late 2006 black macbook for $650 in the fall of 2008, so thats good already that it head value. Then I added 4 GB of ram and a 320GB HD and went and sold it for $750 exactly one year later so I could get my 13" macbook pro.

I would love to see any windows laptop that is 4 years old sell for more then 300 bucks. Apple holds resale value like none other.
 
I bought a late 2006 black macbook for $650 in the fall of 2008, so thats good already that it head value. Then I added 4 GB of ram and a 320GB HD and went and sold it for $750 exactly one year later so I could get my 13" macbook pro.

I would love to see any windows laptop that is 4 years old sell for more then 300 bucks. Apple holds resale value like none other.

Amen. I've actually *made* money buying new laptops and selling them used, believe it or not. Only did that once or twice -- usually my generation-to-generation flipping would cost me about $100-$150 a pop. But I laughed so loud when I made money.
 
I bought a late 2006 black macbook for $650 in the fall of 2008, so thats good already that it head value. Then I added 4 GB of ram and a 320GB HD and went and sold it for $750 exactly one year later so I could get my 13" macbook pro.

I would love to see any windows laptop that is 4 years old sell for more then 300 bucks. Apple holds resale value like none other.

A lot of people here complain about the entry price for a Mac but you hit the nail on the head because once you sell your used Mac the outlay of cash for your new Mac is much more reasonable. It's incredible how the Macs retain their value if you take care of them. Look at eBay and see what broken Macs are selling for just for parts.
 
I heard from a homeless guy with a bottle of Stoli outside an Apple Store that he definitely saw a bunch of suspicious looking boxes being loaded into the store last night. He said that means we're virtually guaranteed to have updates tomorrow.

How reliable is this homeless guy?

I have been waiting for the MBP refresh for more than a semester now, I am going completely crazy. My MBP is feeling very tired and after almost 3 years, I really do need a new one !

I would love to hear about a refresh coming tomorrow, but so close from the stupid iPad release, I deeply doubt my dream will come true...
 
Any homeless guy with a bottle of Stoli must have a Jobs reliability index of at least 8.3 :p.
 
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