MacBook Pro Upgrade At Photokina?

[Nimiety]

Just to throw a little more goop out there, my Macbook order, placed around the 8th and due to be shipped out today, has been delayed for shipping until the 27th. Unexpected shortages, they claimed.

Interesting,eh?

N......

 

[Pressure]

Just to throw a little more goop out there, my Macbook order, placed around the 8th and due to be shipped out today, has been delayed for shipping until the 27th. Unexpected shortages, they claimed.

Interesting,eh?

N......

So you normally find delays interesting? Interesting . . .

But yes, Core 2 Duo would be sweet

 

[hagjohn]

Okay, aside from back-to-school shipping delays, many MBP purchasers are noting similar ship dates and times. It seems slightly more likely that MBP's and MB's could get C2D upgrades at the same time.

I'm still banking on tomorrow/Tuesday as the day we'll see C2D MBP's made available. MB's I'm not sure. But I'm beginning to think if they're not upgraded at the same time as MBP's then they'll be announced and shipping very soon after.

Then again... All iMacs were updated at the same time. There was no distinction between high or low models.

 

[Multimedia]

Ship Times: MacBook 5-7 days • MacBook Pro 24 hours

I've received the same notice, ship on September 26, 2006 with an delivery date of October 3, 2006. I do know from an inside source that hinted at developer MBP's with the Core 2 Duo. My money's on the MBP's being upgraded with the Core 2 Duo on the 25th. I mean they even say on their webpage 5-7 day delivery as is. This is my first mac as well.

Ship Times: MacBook 5-7 days • MacBook Pro 24 hours. Wow! That makes it look like MacBooks will get Merom first! Could this be Apple Bizarro World or Apple In Wonderland?

This has got me wondering if one of Apple's short term goals is to be the first all C2D computer maker. Only mini's may be left after tomorrow or next week. And if Intel wants to help Apple achieve that goal earlier than any other maker, it could favor them with more Merom's sooner than later so by November at the latest everything Apple ships is C2D. That would be so cool.

This kind of favoritism could have even been written in the original deal Apple made with Intel last year before they even took delivery of their first Yonah - knowing that was not the processor they really wanted to start with in the first place.

And it would make for an awesome Marketing Hook.

 

[HecubusPro]

Then again... All iMacs were updated at the same time. There was no distinction between high or low models.

macbooks and macbook pro's are different lines of product, and they are distinct from each other. If there were an iMac Pro line that had been simultaneously updated at the same time as the standard iMac line, then I would be more inclined to believe that MB's and MBP's will be updated at the same time. The jury's still out on that one, though I can definitely see them both being updated simultaneously.

 

[chris07]

Hey guys,

I'm really pushing for MBP updates tomorrow, Tuesday the 19th, but it seems as though all of the shipping notices that we are getting explain that MBP's/MB's are being delayed until Tuesday the 26th. Can anybody think up any possibe explanations as to why our new MBP's will be released tomorrow, but shipping dates are a week from tomorrow? I really hope that they will be released the 19th, but evidence seems to be pointing next week, near the 25th/26th.

Opinions?

 

[Multimedia]

C2D MacBooks Will Be Same Speed As CD But 2GHz Has 4MB Shared L2 Cache Advantage

Arg. You're right. Don't know what I was thinking. Would they just put C2D versions of the same speed in as replacements then? 1.83 and 2.0?

Exactly. And they will stay that way for some time to come since no speed above 2.33 GHz is even mentioned on the mobile roadmap yet. But you will gain a significant advantage with the 2GHz Merom since it has double the L2 cache up to 4MB shared from 2MB in Yonah.

Do you mean to say the chip prices have stayed the same since May?

No I didn't. Obviously they have come down. But 2.16 & 2.33 GHz Meroms still cost radically more then the 2GHz and under models. You gotta give Apple a chance to make a profit on those puppies.

 

[HecubusPro]

Hey guys,

I'm really pushing for MBP updates tomorrow, Tuesday the 19th, but it seems as though all of the shipping notices that we are getting explain that MBP's/MB's are being delayed until Tuesday the 26th. Can anybody think up any possibe explanations as to why our new MBP's will be released tomorrow, but shipping dates are a week from tomorrow? I really hope that they will be released the 19th, but evidence seems to be pointing next week, near the 25th/26th.

Opinions?

Evidence points to next week, but then again, evidence for iMac updates pointed towards the "It's Showtime" event on the 12th. Apple surprised us then by announcing them a week early, and I think they can do it again with MBP's in relation to Photokina. I'm leaning towards tomorrow.

 

[tekmoe]

tomorrow would be better.

for us.

 

[richard4339]

I'll be dreaming of the new MBP tonight =)

 

[macman2790]

macbooks and macbook pro's are different lines of product, and they are distinct from each other. If there were an iMac Pro line that had been simultaneously updated at the same time as the standar iMac line, then I would be more inclined to believe that MB's and MBP's will be updated at the same time. The jury's still out on that one, though I can definitely see them both being updated simultaneously.

you said it all for me, just about to make the same comment

 

[anim8or]

I really want the new MBP tomorrow but i have been thinking....

The new C2D iMacs did not get a keynote or event, just a reasonably quiet announcment on the store.

They also didnt have a redesign, just a new size....

Now the 'Showtime' Event did have a redesigned product, nanos and shuffles, and so wanted to keynote it to show off.

So i am thinking that maybe we will see a new case design or just an updated case design with the Photokina event....

...or perhaps a newly designed iSight or Monitor inc. iSight?

(All this being said about my keynote = design changes, the macbook only had a store announcement and it was a big redesign....

..but then again apple may have sligtly changed its ways since then ie wednesday releases?!?)


These are just observations i still hope for the new MBP tomorrow

 

[bep207]

i think the reason macbook shipping dates are slipping and macbook pro dates are 24hrs is simply supply and demand.

macbooks are education computers, school just started, lots of new macbooks being purchased

macbook pros are professional computers, pros know more about their gear, they realize core 2 duo is coming and will wait

 

[macman2790]

do you guys think that it's possible for the high end c2duo 15 in. macbook pro
to come standard with 2gb of ram or is that just pushin it?

 

[bep207]

another reason i could see the updates coming tomorrow points toward the apple home page.
they have a big square and 4 small squares. 1 of those 4 small squares, that doesnt rotate to the big square like the rest, is a Watch the WebCast link.

apple could easily update the MBP tomorrow, throw on a new rotating square that 20% of the time gets displayed as the main feature.

then at photokina release new displays or no hardware at all. or focus more on aperture.
perhaps hint at aperture integration into leopard and ilife 07.
Advanced workflows with leopard and aperture would be awesome.
A way to view your aperture library in thumbnails without launching aperture (via finder) would be great.
aperture library export to finder.
aperture spotlight integration.
aperture photos available via front row?

And it would be great if jobs says, wouldnt it be nice if those mbp we released last week supported external displays up to 42" like this new beauty here. welll they do.

 

[HecubusPro]

do you guys think that it's possible for the high end c2duo 15 in. macbook pro
to come standard with 2gb of ram or is that just pushin it?

Probably pushing it, but you never know. I'm thinking it will be part of a BTO system though, like it is now.

 

[tekmoe]

I really want the new MBP tomorrow but i have been thinking....

The new C2D iMacs did not get a keynote or event, just a reasonably quiet announcment on the store.

They also didnt have a redesign, just a new size....

Now the 'Showtime' Event did have a redesigned product, nanos and shuffles, and so wanted to keynote it to show off.

So i am thinking that maybe we will see a new case design or just an updated case design with the Photokina event....

...or perhaps a newly designed iSight or Monitor inc. iSight?

(All this being said about my keynote = design changes, the macbook only had a store announcement and it was a big redesign....

..but then again apple may have sligtly changed its ways since then ie wednesday releases?!?)


These are just observations i still hope for the new MBP tomorrow

true...but...

the 24" imac goes against what you are saying. the 24" imac is a completely new product. redesign or not, it's something that was definitely not in the lineup before. apple could do the same thing with a 12"/13" mbp without a press conference. same difference.

 

[mightymike107]

19th vs 26th, it's a toss-up, IMO. the argument of symmetry and "precedent" (once is hardly a precedent) with the iMac release is complete nonsense. I also think the shipping dates are all misleading. I really think it's a 50/50 chance for these next two tuesdays. But of course, it's been said before, if they come out tomorrow it will be a minor upgrade, if it gets a keynote i think we'll see some cool stuff.


Here's to hoping MBP's are released tomorrow and in stores by 10:00, which means I'll be taking notes in class on my new notebook by 11.

edit: typo

 

[tekmoe]

19th vs 26th, it's a toss-up, IMO. the argument of symmetry and "precedent" (once is hardly a precedent) with the iMac release is complete nonsense. I also think the shipping dates are all misleading. I really think it's a 50/50 chance for these next two tuesdays. But of course, it's been said before, if they come out tomorrow it will be a minor upgrade, if it gets a keynote i think we'll see some cool stuff.


Here's to hoping MBP's are released tomorrow and in stores by 10:00, which means I'll be taking notes in class on my new notebook by 11.

edit: typo

i say it either happens tomorrow or next tuesday. if neither, something has gone wrong and whole process has been put on hold.

 

[bep207]

50/50 for the next two weeks works for me, as long as 50+50=100

yeah i would love to miss class tomorrow to go buy a new mbp

 

[evisa]

gahhh. classes start on friday for me, so i'd love to skip out on work for a few hours tomorrow and buy one. if i have to wait till next week, it's going to be pushing it. yet why do i feel a sense of dread, like we have all deluded ourselves into thinking Apple would follow the "precedent" that happened all of once with the iMac?

 

[tekmoe]

gahhh. classes start on friday for me, so i'd love to skip out on work for a few hours tomorrow and buy one. if i have to wait till next week, it's going to be pushing it. yet why do i feel a sense of dread, like we have all deluded ourselves into thinking Apple would follow the "precedent" that happened all of once with the iMac?

i'd consider it a type of "shell shock" that we experienced. we were shocked with apple releasing the imacs as a silent update (press conference revealed hours later.) fooled all the rumor sites too. fooled 'em good.

 

[HecubusPro]

gahhh. classes start on friday for me, so i'd love to skip out on work for a few hours tomorrow and buy one. if i have to wait till next week, it's going to be pushing it. yet why do i feel a sense of dread, like we have all deluded ourselves into thinking Apple would follow the "precedent" that happened all of once with the iMac?

There's no delusion. It either happens or it doesn't. I'm leaning towards tomorrow, but I'll probably be wrong. I'm not fooling myself into thinking that new MBP's will be available tomorrow.

Am I deluding myself into thinking that if it doesn't happen tomorrow it'll happen next week? Certainly!

 

[shadowx]

I only suggest this because the iMac has a 3 GB config with a 1 GB SODIMM and a 2 GB SODIMM, but will not recognize two 2 GB DIMMs. I think I also read that dual channel memory is only a minor concern with the C2D machines. In any case, SODIMMs will NOT be soldered onto the MB of the MBP. That would not be consistent with it being a "Pro" machine. And if Apple doesn't accomodate at least the same amount of RAM in the "Pro" MBP as in the prosumer iMac, you know the flames they'll get.

Yep, I understand what you meant... I was just messing...

Just out of curiousity, what makes RAM soldered onto the motherboard "non-pro?" I could see that arguement work if it meant only 1 SODIMM slot, but what if they left two?

 

[evisa]

i'd consider it a type of "shell shock" that we experienced. we were shocked with apple releasing the imacs as a silent update (press conference revealed hours later.) fooled all the rumor sites too. fooled 'em good.

see? it's thinking like that that makes me think, 'well, what if...' so, i ask you: what if they fooled us to the point to make us think they update it tomorrow and they don't? that's all i'm worried about

i just want my mbp, my first mac, and my first large expenditure!