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MacBook Pro Upgrade At Photokina?

It seems to me, fellows, that the only reason feasible for the long wait all of us are suffering through has to come down to a new enclosure design. This has been suggested by many before me, and I find it's possibilities to my liking. Now, of course, there could be issues with supply, or perhaps unknown problems and QC had to swoop in. But, that isn't very interesting. Additionally, its very disheartening. So let's keep that torch burning, you that still remain stalwart by my side.

So.

My question to all of you, my MBPC2D family, is "What are your time-refined predictions?"
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recessed keyboard?
magnetic latch?
^^^ok ok. makes sense.
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Magnesium enclosure?
New optical drives?
lighter, stronger, scratch resistant?
^^^hmm... these have both been talked about, and are surely possible...
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biometric scanning?
second touch-sensitive screen on the base next to keyboard for 'launching?'

who knows anymore. I don't. but I'm curious what you all think. As more and more time passes, our dreams of sugarplum latches and killer feature fairies will grow more and more visceral.

Let's predict.
 
bazzalisk said:
None. There are currently no known viruses for MacOS X (though there are some known security exploits) so there isn't any need for anti-virus software. This doesn't mean that there will never be such a need -- but right now there isn't.
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Well... not to be too particular about semantics, but... There are no known viruses for Mac OS X. However, there are other malicious entities (which most laymen would call viruses) that DO exist on Mac OS X, such as: trojan horses, worms, rootkits, etc. It's difficult because it's a true statement (I believe) to say "there are no known viruses in the wild that infect OS X". But most consumers don't understand the caveats between viruses, worms, trojans, and rootkits, and it leads them to believe that OS X is immune from these things.

OS X is not immune from malicious code. People that write malicious code rely on statistics. They want to successfully infect as many computers as possible. Today, the overwhelming majority of computer users run Windows and Internet Explorer, which is why malicious code writers target these platforms instead of OS X. However, as soon as OS X users become a larger chunk of the market share for operating systems, we will start to see more and more exploits emerge. The move to the Intel architecture will make this transition even easier (simply because the Intel ISA is more widely used than that of the PPC).

Now, don't get me wrong. You will be much safer surfing around with OS X than with Windows (by many orders of magnitude). But it isn't because OS X is immune...it's because there aren't very many people interested in writing malicious code for OS X (less bang for their buck). It's the same principle behind using Firefox instead of IE: Firefox isn't necessarily more secure (in fact, a recent article I read suggested the current version of Firefox has more security vulnerabilities than IE) than IE, it's just less prevalent and therefore is less attractive from an exploit writer's point of view. I am a little more paranoid than the average user, however, and will be using antivirus software on my new MBP (once they're released, and once I order it).

Probably not the thread for this, but hey...no MBPs today and I'm bored.
 
Next Tuesday said:
Ive been reading these posts for months now. I just have to put my 2 cents in. I dont think that the core2duo upgrade is what most people are waiting for. I think it is more the random shutdowns/heat problem issue that people are waiting to be fixed as mbp's are 2,000$ +. I myself will not convert to a MAC until these issues are resolved. Its pointless to spend over two thousand dollars on a machine that will spend more time in repair than it will in your hands. I would buy a core duo mac today if there wasnt heat problems and random shutdowns.
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Most notebooks I've ever messed with (friends, collegues, stores, etc.) run hot, and are generally as hot, or hotter than the MBP is now. I would like to see that resolved as well, and I know they could providing for some better venting. But that still isn't the big issue for me.

What's interesting is what Engadget said a week ago--if true, the systems are basically built and ready to ship but apple's waiting on the marketing department to "pull the trigger" and get them on store shelves. Heat issues or not, the cases and computers wouldn't still be in R&D at this point. They'd be boxed and ready to go, sitting in warehouses collecting dust.

Engadget said:
So it's on shaky faith we tell you that the latest in an already irritatingly long line of C2D MacBook (Pro) rumors has Cupertino's entire line of laptops done with the damned upgrades, and company just waiting on the marketing department to line 'em up and knock 'em out. Of course, it would be market-suicide if they didn't launch these before the holiday season (unless they wanted to bundle them with Vista that is -- we kid!), so don't be surprised if you wake up to some new Apple laptops any day now.
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http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/so-where-the-hell-are-our-core-2-duo-macbooks/

I want all those cool additions as well (better gpu, mag-latch, easy access HDD bay, etc.), but at this point I'd just settle for a simple processor swap.
 
Next Tuesday said:
Ive been reading these posts for months now. I just have to put my 2 cents in. I dont think that the core2duo upgrade is what most people are waiting for. I think it is more the random shutdowns/heat problem issue that people are waiting to be fixed as mbp's are 2,000$ +. I myself will not convert to a MAC until these issues are resolved. Its pointless to spend over two thousand dollars on a machine that will spend more time in repair than it will in your hands. I would buy a core duo mac today if there wasnt heat problems and random shutdowns.
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Okay. Maybe I have the ONLY MBP that isn't wrought with problems--but I find that hard to believe. I am...prepare yourself...a proud owner of a BTO Rev A MBP (15"/100 MB 7200 rpm/2.16 ghz). Ordered it right after they were announced. It has never shut down on me—ever—and the heat isn't significantly more untolerable than my old Pismo. Is it hot? Sure...but so was my Pismo. Which is why I got a coolpad for the Pismo--and continue to use it with my MBP.

I am interested in switching to the 17" if it has an easy access HDD for reasons posted earlier. As far as switching from PC to Mac? Man...I did that years ago and you could not pry OS X out of my cold dead fingers. I'll never go back to Windows.
 
daneoni said:
Revision is Rev A however week model is the 3rd and 4th digit of your serial number
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Not to derail this awesome thread even further (OK, actually, I guess I will), but any links to what "week model" means in terms of problems? My MB shipped with the most current firmware, so I'm assuming that it's the most recent week model as well. Does that mean no "whine" or "discoloration" for me?
 
oneighturbo said:
hey everyone. been busy so havent had the chance to pop in here.

anyays, photokina came and went.. merom or no merom i was perfectly content with... my new MBP

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check out all my images on my flickr page in my sig.

i am super happy with it to say the least and not one bit disappointed. now i just need RAM!!!!!!!! (BTW it does run very well with 512)
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sweet release...
 
XtraSmiley said:
Not to derail this awesome thread even further (OK, actually, I guess I will), but any links to what "week model" means in terms of problems? My MB shipped with the most current firmware, so I'm assuming that it's the most recent week model as well. Does that mean no "whine" or "discoloration" for me?
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Sufficive to say, you shouldnt have any issues with your machine
 
dondark said:
You guys are idiots. If you REALLY want a Merom, just buy one from Intel. And then put it into the MBP, it is EASY. But You prolly need to be rich enuf to do that.
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Haha, at this point, some of us would be trying that very thing, but the chips are soldered into the computer. So unless you are Johnny Weld-A-Lot, it's pretty much not a safe thing to try with a 2,500+ dollar notebook.
 
dondark said:
You guys are idiots. If you REALLY want a Merom, just buy one from Intel. And then put it into the MBP, it is EASY. But You prolly need to be rich enuf to do that.
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That is just idiotic. If you knew what you were talking about you would know you cant just "put" a Merom chip into a MBP.. Please research or better yet think before you type.
 
dondark said:
You guys are idiots. If you REALLY want a Merom, just buy one from Intel. And then put it into the MBP, it is EASY. But You prolly need to be rich enuf to do that.
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Really? Why didn't I think of this before?! ZOMG! I've been blind this whole time and all it took was some guy to call us all "idiots" before I realized how idiotic we've all been. It's just so EASY! Still, I don't know if I'm "rich" enough though. What do merom chips cost? Like a billion dollars, right? I don't know if I can afford it, so I'd better start saving now! Thanks dondark for being that beacon of light in the darkness to us all! You're so cool! :rolleyes:
 
HecubusPro said:
Really? Why didn't I think of this before?! ZOMG! I've been blind this whole time and all it took was some guy to call us all "idiots" before I realized how idiotic we've all been. It's just so EASY! Still, I don't know if I'm "rich" enough though. What do merom chips cost? Like a billion dollars, right? I don't know if I can afford it, so I'd better start saving now! Thanks dondark for being that beacon of light in the darkness to us all! You're so cool! :rolleyes:
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wow that was mean, effective, and funny. Good job, you beat me to it. :p
 
Magnesium? Heh. Now a case with a sac would be Tungsten Carbide. You know, the metal used on diamond cutters. Might not help in keeping costs all that low, though. ;)
 
dondark said:
You guys are idiots. If you REALLY want a Merom, just buy one from Intel. And then put it into the MBP, it is EASY. But You prolly need to be rich enuf to do that.
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I guess he meant we should "just put it into the MBP", not "install it" :D :D

Then tell everybody: I have a Intel Core 2+1 Duo Chip in my MBP!
 
after reading this http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2081 I really feel justified in anticipating MBP with C2D in the near future.

quote:
"During the brief appearance, Schiller touted Intel's new Core 2 Duo platform and discussed how Apple has been able to innovate with sleek form factors and leverage the Intel Core family of processors across its entire computing product line."
 
Yichen said:
I guess he meant we should "just put it into the MBP", not "install it" :D :D

Then tell everybody: I have a Intel Core 2+1 Duo Chip in my MBP!
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is there a slot for that? I never use this slot next to the headphone jack....maybe I can just stick it in there. I use it as a coin holder as it is. :D :D :D
 
mightymike107 said:
after reading this http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2081 I really feel justified in anticipating MBP with C2D in the near future.

quote:
"During the brief appearance, Schiller touted Intel's new Core 2 Duo platform and discussed how Apple has been able to innovate with sleek form factors and leverage the Intel Core family of processors across its entire computing product line."
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Just more evidence that begs the question: Why isn't the C2D MBP out today?

Appleinsider said:
Core2 Duo ... was now the fastest-ramping product in the company's history, with 5 million units shipped since it was introduced less than 60 days ago.
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Huh... I wonder if Apple will update the MacBook Pro's with the Core2 Extreme quad-core processor....?
 
jfsouza said:
Huh... I wonder if Apple will update the MacBook Pro's with the Core2 Extreme quad-core processor....?
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I wouldnt buy one. I like my nuts the way they are thank you very much.
 
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