MacBook Pro Upgrade At Photokina?

[ergle2]

Cool. I found a PDF on Intel's site that (for some reason) listed both the CD and C2D as 56W each.

That would really smack some other manufacturer's butts though... they think Apple is lagging and then all of a sudden they go "Quad" and kill em.

Ahhh... the bliss of a pipedream.

It ain't gonna happen. Quite aside from the various other issues, as pressure said, Yonah and Merom are 31W and 35W (or 34W on some sites, oddly), and some Yonah owners found that too hot for the cooling provided.

Beyond that, bear in mind a quad 1.6GHz chip would be significantly slower for many tasks than a 2.0GHz dual core chip, as many tasks don't parallelize well or just haven't been coded to take advantage of multiple processors.

When all the software uses is 1 or 2 cores, that 20% advantage in clock-speed matters.

 

[ergle2]

I know.

But it's fun to dream.

Although, I'm sure they'll end up with a mobile version at some point and we'll all look back and have a laugh as the saying "that is so... dual core" comes into existance as the phrase "that's so 1995" (or whatever) has. lol

Almost everyone I know is still using single-core desktops, never mind laptops...

 

[chris07]

Well, I just phoned Apple Store Palo Alto, and spoke to a curt salesman. I simply asked if they had any 17" MBP's in stock, and I was told they did. And I replied by asking if they would be in stock if I came in tomorrow or the following day and he replied "I don't see why they wouldn't be, thanks, bye" then he left. My plan didn't go as well as I thought it would

 

[mrdice87]

And also in hard, lightweight protective cases.

And, of course, notebook computers.

Magnesium and magnesium alloy are two very different things...

The alloy is mostly aluminium, with only a small part magnesium

As a metal, this element's principal use is as an alloying additive to aluminium with these aluminium-magnesium alloys being used mainly for beverage cans.

I also like how "incendiary bombs" was listed under other uses... i just hope none of those thinkpads with exploding batteries were made out of magnesium

 

[PowerBookG5]

nice typo

after reading this http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2081 I really feel justified in anticipating MBP with C2D in the near future.

quote:
"During the brief appearance, Schiller touted Intel's new Core 2 Duo platform and discussed how Apple has been able to innovate with sleek form factors and leverage the Intel Core family of processors across its entire computing product line."

notice the difference...

During the brief appearance, Schiller touted Intel's new Core platform and discussed how Apple has been able to innovate with sleek form factors and leverage the Intel Core family of processors across its entire computing product line.


I'm just as bummed as all of you. I have been waiting for an update since the summer and now the student discount is out. I have $2500 just waiting here to get me a new C2D Macbook Pro!!!

 

[ergle2]

Magnesium and magnesium alloy are two very different things...

The alloy is mostly aluminium, with only a small part magnesium

Indeed -- the colloquial term for such cases is "magnesium" tho'

I remember setting fire to magnesium in school... t'was brief but fun.

I also like how "incendiary bombs" was listed under other uses... i just hope none of those thinkpads with exploding batteries were made out of magnesium

Heh.

I only read of one incident of an exploding ThinkPad, and it was using a third party battery. Apparently, the room was coated with carbon, a flying piece of battery took out an LCD display nearby and the smell was awful.

I forget where I saw it or else I'd link it, the pics were pretty interesting...

Those ThinkPad cases are generally very hard-wearing, too...

 

[daneoni]

The best thing about no MBP's yesterday or today is that I'm more certain that there will be a new form factor. Time for another great design leap forward from Jonathan Ive.

Personally, I think that the new MBP 17" will be more sleek and black aluminum.

I dunno, if i were steve (which i'm not) i'd save the new form factor/design for when santa rosa debuts. That way you get sleek new form factor, faster bus, 802.11n (official) and plenty other goodies.

The intel transition saw slight changes in design for all models except iMac/Mini. So it makes sense to change designs with major transitions/architectural changes in platforms

 

[ergle2]

I dunno if i were steve (which i'm not) i'd save the new form factor/design for when santa rosa debuts. That way you get sleek new form factor, faster bus, 802.11n (official) and plenty other goodies.

That'd be my guess.

Tho' IMO Santa Rosa's not terribly exciting, Robson aside. There's no certainty that 802.11n will even by ratified by Santa Rosa's launch, either.

 

[ThunderLounge]

notice the difference...

During the brief appearance, Schiller touted Intel's new Core platform and discussed how Apple has been able to innovate with sleek form factors and leverage the Intel Core family of processors across its entire computing product line.

Damn, nice catch. How right you are. Someone's done a little editing...

Why do I hear Kyle and Stan's voices ringing in my head?

 

[mooncaine]

I gotta get me one of them Argyle Sock Enhancers, my gracious, oh yes.

 

[ergle2]

Damn, nice catch. How right you are. Someone's done a little editing...

Why do I hear Kyle and Stan's voices ringing in my head?

... because this thread's claimed the sanity of yet another person?

 

[mightymike107]

Damn, nice catch. How right you are. Someone's done a little editing...

Why do I hear Kyle and Stan's voices ringing in my head?

wow, they went back and changed it, it wasn't me, i swear. they also added photos.

 

[ThunderLounge]

Almost everyone I know is still using single-core desktops, never mind laptops...

My main work desktop is a lamp shade, at a whopping 1.25GHz still running with Jaguar.

Granted, I'm not doing graphic work on this machine and it's my main email / client interaction unit, and I use it for SSH, and other stuff too. But it's 3yrs old and still kicking like a champ.

I have a PowerMac G5 for graphic work and heavy application development, but you get my point (which is your point).

 

[mightymike107]

hmm, yeah, check out the comments from appleinsider

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67115

in the first comment (i.e the article) they definately say c2d

 

[ThunderLounge]

... because this thread's claimed the sanity of yet another person?

Well, to claim sanity would imply that it existed for claiming as a loss in the first place.

Something I'm not sure I can say at the moment, for myself.

Then again, all this update speculation does take its toll. Whether it's today, NT, or whatever. I'm just excited to see what they come up with when they do.

 

[jfsouza]

A Core 2 Duo update to the MacBook lineup is imminent. Apple would not update the iMac with C2D and leave its other models hanging or waiting for Santa Rosa or something else.

 

[mrdice87]

of course it's imminent... I just ordered one monday


is it true that apple won't take returns on ADC store products? If so, I'm gonna use my mbp till the new ones come out, then put it on eBay...

 

[ThunderLounge]

hmm, yeah, check out the comments from appleinsider

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67115

in the first comment (i.e the article) they definately say c2d

Certainly so. Being it's a pro-Apple site, I'd like to think it was a simple typo. Hopefully so.


It does bring up a nice point though, that is again mentioned later in the comments.

5M chips shipped since release isn't a lot between all the manufacturers.

Also, if Apple tends to put the top of the line in the next revision, that number becomes even less to share between everyone. So the lack of an update could very well be a simple supply and demand issue. Waiting for enough of a chip flow, to be able to produce enough to meet what Apple anticipates the demand will be for the updated lines, seems at least plausible to me.

It makes me wonder that if the addition to the iMac was because the number of sales were more feasible to manage than for the MB/MBP lines? I don't know what the current sales ratio would be, but it would seem that they thought the iMac would be easier to manage with the chips initially than the MB/MBP family. If so, then at least they have something shipping with a C2D instead of nothing.

 

[sjsharks27]

I was wondering what exactaly will be the exact difference between Santa Rosa and Merom?????

And do any of you have a clue to when the next POSSIBLE date for a Merom release in the MBP is?????

 

[PowerBookG5]

ok it does say C2D, but he also says they have been able to leverage the whole Core family into apple's line, which is true. he doesn't say that they have C2D's in all of them, but the "Core" family.

I am starting to get a little ticked off though, Apple takes way way to long to update its laptops.

 

[aaronb]

My question is how far can Apple laptops upgrade before dispensing WAY too much heat?

Will there ever be a point where Apple cannot put a faster processor in without changing the design because of the significant source of heat?

 

[ergle2]

My question is how far can Apple laptops upgrade before dispensing WAY too much heat?

Will there ever be a point where Apple cannot put a faster processor in without changing the design because of the significant source of heat?

Probably. At a guess, the MBP will change design within the next 12 months anyway tho'.

 

[daneoni]

I was wondering what exactaly will be the exact difference between Santa Rosa and Merom?????

And do any of you have a clue to when the next POSSIBLE date for a Merom release in the MBP is?????

Merom is a processor, santa rosa is a platform. Kinda like Pentiume 4 (Processor) & Netburst (Platform)

MBP release should happen between now and the 26th of October as someone suggested.

 

[mrdice87]

Merom is a processor, santa rosa is a platform. Kinda like Pentiume 4 (Processor) & Netburst (Platform)

wasn't netburst the chip architecture?

 

[daneoni]

wasn't netburst the chip architecture?

Thats what i meant. I guess "architecture" is a more better word for it. English isnt my first language.