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MacBook Pro With 3nm Chip Reportedly Launching Later This Year
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Duh. Of course prices will decrease over time and performance will increase, this is tech. If you want a bargain on today's tech wait until next year.
Similarly in the way you lived prior to its introduction the people “who cannot live without it” will adapt and it will be history.
Do people still miss floppy drives, SCSI, CD/DVD drives? Some might the majority have moved on and those who were kicking and screaming have begrudgingly adapted.
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Introducing redesigned 13.6" MacBook Pro Powered by M3 Pro chip.
I wish that was real ! That’s exactly what the current 13” model needs right now. This would definitely make it more “Pro” especially for the price point.
Issue is that a 13.6" MBP would be too close to the 14.1" model.
The 13.3" MBP serves corporate and enterprise customers who receive nice discounts from Apple to buy them by the pallet for their IT departments. Making it "better" just makes it more expensive and Apple does not want to cook that golden goose.
The 13.3" MBP serves corporate and enterprise customers who receive nice discounts from Apple to buy them by the pallet for their IT departments. Making it "better" just makes it more expensive and Apple does not want to cook that golden goose.
Two things:
1. TSMC's new plant in Phoenix is having trouble finding skilled workers for its new 3M fab and is predicting delays
2. Gurman is sometimes correct on "what" but often has to back peddle the "when". The reader can decide if the "when" misses are bad luck or deliberate.
Having M3 macs this year would be great but conditions don't leave me sanguine for that outcome.
That new TSMC factory is only planned to build “4nm” chips. It is not expected to start production until 2025. That is the same tech used for current M2 and A16 SOCs. They have not announced any US-based plants for 3nm.
Anecdotal but even in my circle optical drives especially on a computer or laptop I have not seen in close to a decade. Those people either have nostalgia, have a museum or are hoarders. 😝
Except it’s pointless for Apple to put money into redesigning an aged product plus what is the point there is a 13” and 15” M2 MBA and a 14” and 16” MBP, the 13” MBP is like an adult trying to wear fashion that clearly does not compliment.
it would be cheaper for Apple to discontinue the 13 MBP, reassign or retire the assembly line and focus on MBA and Pro similar bodies. The wedge shaped MBA (I have and like it’s design) will either also be retired, rebranded or serve the budget or corporate volume market. In this inflation market and job cuts I find it difficult to believe many companies upgrading computer hardware or Apple seeking to invest money into it.
Remember the 15” MBA due to supply issues was not released last year.
The lineup would make the most sense if Apple offered the 14" Pro with an M3 chip, at a lower price point, as most business users I know that currently use base level Macs would love the ports/screen, but don't care about the graphical power or multi-core performance an M3 Pro chip would offer.
Yeah, you’re probably right. Though this redesign would make the 13” MBP make more sense in the lineup. I own this laptop and I love it but let’s be honest, it can’t be considered “Pro” at all. Even the 13” MBA has more advantages such as the 1080P Webcam and the Magsafe port.
I just don’t understand why they didn’t at least redesign the M2 model just like how they did with the rest of the lineup. Do they wanna keep at least one model with the TouchBar ? Or do they just have a lot of this chassis in stock so they wanna milk it all ? Who really knows. I love the design and all, but let’s face it, it has become outdated. This has only made the 13” MBP an odd product in the lineup. A MacBook with an old design, neither an Air nor Pro, but has a TouchBar… really ? It would make more sense if they just redesigned it and gave it more “Pro” features. But one can only keep dreaming and we all know it’ll probably never happen…
And well, I personally like the TouchBar, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple ended up killing it off completely by either killing off the 13” MBP or redesigning it (which is highly unlikely). But we’ll see either way what they’ll end up doing with the M3 model.
I would suspect that the TouchBar components cost more money compared to physical buttons. It’s looks futuristic but it’s one of the problems of over designing without daily practicality being considered. A physical button will be faster and easier to interact compared to a digital screen, now whatever happens behind that physical button is another story.
I believe due to the 15” M2 MBA not being ready the 13” M2 MBP got an extension on life for a bit. With the 15” M2 MBA introduction the 13” MBP doesn’t fit well in the product line considering as you mentioned no MagSafe, 1080p iSight camera, display nits are the same if not worse compared to M2 MBA, weight issues, etc.
I expect Apple to let this product wither on the vine as research, development, testing and production for the TouchBar components and function can be redirect elsewhere, remember Apple did something similar for iPhone 3D Touch. In the end developers are not interested in TouchBar as it’s a solution waiting for a problem. At this point the functionality would be better in a touchscreen weather one uses it or not as it would be cheaper to produce the hardware unfortunately however that would also mean Apple and Co., were wrong (not the first time) and have to make changes to macOS. If we consider macOS over the last few years it’s resembling more iPadOS style UI/UX with more spacing this is the proverbial writing on the wall so to speak.
Folks need to understand that the percentage of consumers who buy a 13.3" MacBook Pro is about the same as the number of professionals who buy a Mac Pro - very low single digits.
Like the eMac line was to the education market, so is the 13.3" MacBook Pro to the enterprise market. Apple should not even offer it for "public sale" anymore and put it exclusively into the Business Store like they did with the eMacs and the Education Store.
I expect that software developers in those companies are running custom internal TouchBar configurations designed for the dev work they do. This was the case at a previous software development workplace back in the Intel days with our 15.4" and 13.3" MacBook Pros. So for them, the TouchBar is an asset, not a detriment, and that would explain why Apple continues to make it standard on that model instead of having used the "MacBook Pro Escape" chassis with the physical keys.
And those IT shops want each new generation of 13.3" MBP to look and act like the previous generation for commonality across the installed base when they need to replace a broken one or upgrade an older one or issue one to a new hire. So Apple has zero incentive to "mix it up" in terms of design or features. And because it uses so many "legacy" parts with fully amortized production costs, Apple can continue to keep the price low enough to appeal to those IT shop's annual budgets.
I am talking about DVD players. Plenty out there. For my Mac I have an external DVD player/drive. I use it sometimes. Got lots of DVDS and I can’t afford to buy them all on iTunes.
Personally, I think the TouchBar is pretty useful for a plenty of stuff such as controlling the sound/brightness level, skipping through YouTube ads or a long video, the app shortcuts it typically offers, etc. I didn't really see the point of it at first, but when I tried it myself I found it pretty useful and I found myself actually using it quite often. It's nice to have in my opinion, but I still wouldn't really mind it not being there. I have always used laptops with physical function keys in the past without any issues so yeah.
But I guess it's a personal preference after all though, I get that some folks may find the physical keys more practical than a digital screen, but I personally don't mind either.
And yeah, it seems like Apple is more likely to adopt touchscreen support on MacBooks in the future and probably ditch the TouchBar by doing so. The macOS interface is slowly starting to look very similar to iPadOS especially after the new System Settings interface in Ventura. While I personally don't like touchscreen laptops (I just don't find them very practical, like I'd rather just get an iPad than have a touchscreen MacBook) but it seems more likely to happen. Even iPadOS is starting to look more like macOS as it's now getting features like Stage Manager and has got apps like Final Cut Pro now available on it. Not to mention how iPads are now getting the Apple Silicon chips which were designed for Macs in the first place.
So yeah, it seems like Apple is indeed trying to bring macOS and iPadOS closer, so the potential of MacBooks getting touchscreen support is pretty high. And while I remember Steve Jobs being strongly against the concept of a touchscreen laptop, well I mean, Apple has already gone against his ideas a few times before anyways. A big example is them releasing the Apple Pencil despite his iconic "Who wants a stylus ?" 😅
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Paying for items and services using apple pay on the mac using a Touch Bar mac is TONS easier than without one.
A better solution would have been having the physical function row buttons/keys actual micro/mini oiled displays or the entire keyboard to attain the ability and function you seek. It would actually be useful for professionals to open a pro app and have shortcuts and custom functions via keyboard compared to the narrow but wide display that is TouchBar, Apple has a patent I believe on this displayed keyboard or at least researching it at some point.
The only stand alone DVD players or even drives are all collecting dust in a corner within my circle. With the exception of not having broadband most people will select convenience, cost and catalogue vice physical media. If the family wants Disney movies it’s easier with Disney+ compared to holding a DVD shelf of a limited catalogue of content plus it can be downloaded on any supported device and watch many streams at a given time, one is not limited.
Granted you don’t own the media but given how Disney is with copyright you are basically have limited user rights, plus don’t calculate one’s time and money to rip, encode and store said content for personal use.
Profit margins between a MP and 13” MBA are not even in the same ballpark. Having another SKU just to appease some IT department who put money into TouchBar is actually foolish on that company and IT department as TouchBar is not an industrial standard unlike touchscreens.
13” MBP is one foot in its grave and IT departments will adapt as physical keys are less prone to something going wrong with the exception of the ill-fated butterfly mech kb which was an engineering issue.
For the most part I avoid DVD's and Blu-ray's. However I do have discs that one can't buy on iTunes.
Everything you say is all speculative. Before apple released the M2 Touch Bar MBP you said that they would never do such a thing, yet they did. I like the Touch Bar on my intel MacBook Pro and use it for many things.
It’s understandable you invested in physical media prior or maybe during digital availability but the majority of people also like subs for this category due to upmixing video and audio that may not have been available when that physical media was released such as Dolby Vision, 4K and soon 8K, HDR, Spatial Audio, etc.
I don’t remember making any claim about TouchBar and M2 MBP, I did say it was released due to 15” MBA not being ready for release.
Tell me what does the 13” MBP TouchBar have over the M2 MBA other than TouchBar everything else it outdated. Listen I also like the Ford Model T but here we are 😝😂