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If you "need" a 14 Pro, there's no need to wait for a 13 Air / Pro ...
M2 does not mean faster than M1 pro / max

If all you need is a machine and can wait , then wait for an M2 Air / pro
Yes you are right. I needed a new machine now as my 2011 Air just died and using my iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard isn't really great for some tasks. I was hesitating between a beefed up air and the base 14 Pro, decided the Pro for the display and the design. I've been using it for a couple of hours and wow I'm very happy with it. It's amazing and all my worries are gone.
 
Yes you are right. I needed a new machine now as my 2011 Air just died and using my iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard isn't really great for some tasks. I was hesitating between a beefed up air and the base 14 Pro, decided the Pro for the display and the design. I've been using it for a couple of hours and wow I'm very happy with it. It's amazing and all my worries are gone.
I bet it is nice and quiet. But you'll still have to plug dongles and HDMI cables into it, tethering it to the desk, and it'll probably still get hot and spin the fans when surfing the web. Too bad we can't get the laptop display and keyboard separate from the CPU and its heat and cables, with a wireless connection.
 
And there is one professional photography studio I go to that still uses an old PowerPC Mac with Adobe Creative Suite 2 on it. Any Mac - even the Macbook Air, will be able to fulfil their needs.
Wooooow! That is AWESOME!
Hell, an iPad mini 6 would suffice. ?
Jokes aside, I do love this. A lot. So good to hear that in our now yearly disposable tech cycle, something like this exists. ❤️
 
With all the talk of M2, now I feel like I need to wait for the M2 Pro/Max before I jump aboard the Apple Silicon bandwagon!
I would suggest jumping in now while you can. With inflation and all the constraints with supplies, chips and everything electronics, the next M2 Pro/Max is going to be (relatively) more expensive.
 
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"Entry level Pro Model" a sentence that should not even exist. Either something is a "Pro" or it is not.
Exactly, I think they only call it a 13" Macbook Pro to make people fell better about having a 13" screen.
 
Maybe the 13 MBP design becomes with new $999 'MacBook' and the new Airs become semi-premium. 13" 2.2lb 1299 and 15" 3.0lb. $1499. Bifurcate into thin, light and efficient with the Airs or power and ports with the 14/16 MBP. 13MPB becomes the iPhone SE of the laptops.
 
M2 not Pro or Max version will probably enable dual monitor support and focus more on GPU advancements. Some WiFi 6E and MagSafe 3.0. It’s performance on single core may match the M1 Pro but it’s multi core score will not. Pro models will focus more on multi core performance and graphics enhancements.
You seem fairly certain. I'd like to know what your source is. ;D
 
In all honesty, because the MacBook Air exists with the same performance (minus thermal throttling) as the entry-level MacBook Pro, for a few hundreds less, Apple should scratch the latter. It's just not worth it.
Exactly!
I'd scrap the Mb PRO 13" alltogether and simplify the lineup.
 
Yes you are right. I needed a new machine now as my 2011 Air just died and using my iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard isn't really great for some tasks. I was hesitating between a beefed up air and the base 14 Pro, decided the Pro for the display and the design. I've been using it for a couple of hours and wow I'm very happy with it. It's amazing and all my worries are gone.
Glad you are enjoying it, it's a great machine and will be for many years to come.

Sometimes we get caught in decision-making that is really simple if you look at it from the outside but hard when you are personally involved.

At the end of the day, it boils down to need/want, if you need something you just go and buy it with a no regret attitude as you needed something now and there is nothing better available at the moment.

If it is a want, then you can wait if the deadline is close otherwise you'll end up waiting forever as there is always something better coming up.

Hope you have a blast with your new toy, they are amazing and the chip powering them are the fastest you can get right now, so you'll be covered for a long time!

I know the feeling when something new is announced and you bought something close to the announcement, but don't let it fool you, you got a heck of a machine!
 
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Im not sure why people are so surprised. M1 was announced roughly 2 years ago. I got the M1 Mac mini in 2020. So the processor is going on two years old now if the product ships in the fall this year. Even if it ships next month, the M1 is still getting to that "old" point.

People were worried they couldn't keep up with Intel releasing new updates. Now people are worried they are going to fast?!
You got 9 months to go before its going on 2 years. (Nov 10, 2020 event)
 
I would suggest jumping in now while you can. With inflation and all the constraints with supplies, chips and everything electronics, the next M2 Pro/Max is going to be (relatively) more expensive.
I’d add up the spike orders for 14 and 16 spec “beefed” BTO, may induce Apple to raise prices, as I suspect the “reasonable” prices of current offer were responsible for this high demand. Sadly some people at Apple will look at it differently and will be tempted to “over milk” the “cashing cow”.
 


Apple will launch its first MacBook Pro featuring a second-generation M2 Apple silicon processor at its spring event next month, according to a new supply chain report today.

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DigiTimes reports that Apple's supply chain partners kept production lines running during the Lunar New Year holiday for the new MacBook Pro, which is set to launch in "early March," according to the publication's industry sources:
Although the report doesn't mention the exact size of MacBook Pro, the only "Pro" model with the original M1 chip is the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro, and Apple is believed to be working on an updated version of this machine, which was positively received when it launched back in November 2020.

As recently as this past weekend, Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said Apple's intention is to release an updated entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro with M2 chip in 2022, but it was generally assumed that the machine would appear later in the year, after Apple finishes releasing its final Macs with M1 Pro and M1 Max chips.

DigiTimes' sources often provide reliable information, but the site has a mixed track record when it comes to interpreting that information and accurately deciphering Apple's plans, especially with respect to product launch timing.

Nevertheless, whenever it arrives, the next-generation entry-level MacBook Pro should use the same ‌M2‌ chip that the next-generation ‌MacBook Air‌ is expected to adopt, featuring the same number of CPU cores as the M1 chip, up to 10 graphics cores, and improved performance. Gurman believes Apple will remove the Touch Bar from the new entry-level MacBook Pro, and he expects the notebook will lack a ProMotion display.

These details have yet to be corroborated, which is why there have been questions regarding how the new entry-level machine will take the middle ground between a new ‌M2‌ ‌MacBook Air‌, also expected this year, and the current high-end MacBook Pro models.

At its virtual event on Tuesday, March 8, Apple is also expected to introduce new iPhone SE and iPad Air models, which are both believed to feature an A15 chip and 5G support.

Article Link: MacBook Pro With Next-Gen M2 Chip Coming Next Month, Supply Chain Report Claims
It took a while but Macrumors has finally started writing articles with "DigiTimes" as the first word, so we know not to go any further.
The next step should be to include "DigiTimes" in the title so that we don't even open the article.
 
"Entry level Pro Model" a sentence that should not even exist. Either something is a "Pro" or it is not.
Apple did come out with the MacBook and now it no longer exists so you have two to choose from: The MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro

The processors in both the Air and the Pro are one and the same until you go with M1 Pro or M1 Max - and here, is where your focus should be - all MacBook Pro's should have ONLY the Pro or the Max processors.

But, there are people that will move up from the Air to the MacBook Pro (sometimes for the larger screen size) mostly for the additional ports.

I have the MacBook Air and the iMac and I have a lot of attached drives. I am considering selling my iMac and my MacBook Air and going with the MacBook Pro because of the additional ports (yeah I know, dongles and I will still use them). I am curious as to what the "budget" MacBook Pro is all about. It may be exactly what I need.

On the other hand, yeah... I would most likely get the MacBook Pro with 32gb Memory, M1 Max (or M2 Max) processor with at least a 2TB drive. Hardly a budget MacBook Pro, I know! But I do get asked a lot of questions whether they should get the Air or Pro. Because of the same processors in each, it boils down to if you need the convenience of the extra ports or not.
 
"Entry level Pro Model" a sentence that should not even exist. Either something is a "Pro" or it is not.
"Pro" is still a spectrum in itself. "Entry-level Pro model" just means it's a bottom-rung Pro model, with other, more expensive/powerful pro models also existing. Something can be two things.
 
Maybe the 13 MBP design becomes with new $999 'MacBook' and the new Airs become semi-premium. 13" 2.2lb 1299 and 15" 3.0lb. $1499. Bifurcate into thin, light and efficient with the Airs or power and ports with the 14/16 MBP. 13MPB becomes the iPhone SE of the laptops.
Interesting idea— I do think there’s a chance the new “Airs” they’re talking about will become the new “MacBooks” instead. It makes zero sense to make both the iMac 24” base model and the upcoming MacBook Airs match in color and design— these new multicolor laptops should be MacBooks. Save the “Air” name for something thinner and more premium.
Exactly!
I'd scrap the Mb PRO 13" alltogether and simplify the lineup.
I disagree— they need a smaller, lighter Pro, especially if every other option is a MacBook Air with bright colors and white bezels ?
 
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You will cancel an M1 Max order for an M2 just because of a number in the naming?

You will disregard the fact that an M1 Max will still be a more capable chip than an M2?

If thats the case you never needed the M1 Max in the first place.
I would not disregard any facts and I would definitely not cancel an M1 Max order for the M2 just because a number in the naming.
But yes, I would absolutely cancel my M1 Max if the M2 would be more powerful and efficient than the M1 Max.
Will it be? Most certainly not. Do I know? No idea. Will the M2 Max launch before I receive my M1 Max? Hope not.


Weird how fast people online seem to jump the gun and put words in another ones mouth just to collect Internet-points.
 
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That is not right. You can get M1 Macs everywhere, and Apple themselves have 1-3 days of shipping time on them.

M1 Pro and Max, that's a completely different matter, but they are also much more complex, and newer, chips.


Digitimes is 60,8% correct, according to Appletrack, which isn't too shabby IMHO.
marginally better than flipping the coin.
 
I would not disregard any facts and I would definitely not cancel an M1 Max order for the M2 just because a number in the naming.
But yes, I would absolutely cancel my M1 Max if the M2 would be more powerful and efficient than the M1 Max.
Will it be? Most certainly not. Do I know? No idea. Will the M2 Max launch before I receive my M1 Max? Hope not.


Weird how fast people online seem to jump the gun and put words in another ones mouth just to collect Internet-points.
Same boat. I have to say I’m now hopping for a 18month refresh cycle, otherwise the 5 months Apple expects me to wait for my M1max MBP are very unappealing…
 
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Do we expect Apple to eventually re-merge the 14 and 16 refresh timelines? Or is there not a risk the 14 could be offering better performance than the 16, at a lower price point for 6-12 months.

Even from a marketing perspective, there will some that would see M2 as “better” than M1(anything).
Eh? The 14-inch is going to be touched.
 
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