Macbook Released

[ictiosapiens]

No they won't. It's called "Just-In-Time" Logistics. Apple only receives more processors every 24-48 hours before they need them. As for inventory already produced, they will lower the price on those in the stores and put the returns on the refurb page. It will be a little sticky as Yonah buyers realize the error of their ways. But it's an inevitable ugly moment Apple will just have to grin and bear.

Those of us who waited will try and be as compassionate as possible and focus on not gloating. Those who didn't will continue to enjoy their Yonahs until the sky falls.

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I thought it would take longer for the whole change in the production chain to take place... Thanks...

LOL, I must say though, its being very difficult to hold the purchase!!! I've been to my local Apple store like 5 times in the las 2 weeks and everytime is harder to leave without a new laptop... Do you really think that Merom is worth the wait???

 

[matticus008]

And from saying that no pc laptop processors were socketed to saying that is only the 1.5'' or thinner!!!, oh, come on... If they managed to put a socket on the mini, and the imac, where they were very space conscious, I'm sure they could adapt the shape of the heat sink to accommodate a processor sitting on a 1-1.5mm socket.

Because you went from talking about "thin" notebooks to talking about all notebooks, so I followed suit? From "not Toshiba giants" to "Dell uses"...well, Toshiba and Dell make notebooks of the same thickness. A socketed processor adds 3-4mm+ to a notebook, not 1mm. A desktop socketed processor is on the order of 5-6mm+(remember that the socket extends both above and below the mainboard on desktops and has to be sturdy enough for heavy desktop cooling devices). The mini and the iMac are both at least two inches thick, which is plenty of vertical (or horizontal, in the case of the iMac) space for a socket. <3/4 inch on a slim notebook is not.

The fanboy argument doesn't really get you far. There's a big difference between "Apple didn't do anything wrong" and "ZOMG I luv MAC!!!1."

 

[61132]

If you open up a macbook pro, there is very little room inside for anything else, all the components are squeezed in there very tightly, I think apple had their reasons for not making the processor socketed, I dont think they are trying to discourage users upgrading the processor, I mean, the average computer user would never think of opening up their mbp.

 

[Multimedia]

I Can Afford To Wait For Merom. You Have To Decide If You Can Too.

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I thought it would take longer for the whole change in the production chain to take place... Thanks...

LOL, I must say though, its being very difficult to hold the purchase!!! I've been to my local Apple store like 5 times in the las 2 weeks and everytime is harder to leave without a new laptop... Do you really think that Merom is worth the wait???

I do. But I am not a frequent mobile user anyway so I can afford the luxury of waiting and use my old 1.25GHz PB G4 from October 2003 a little while longer since it's mainly just something I use to teach with on a projector occasionally. And then speed is not an issue anyway.

I'm just being prudent. As long as I don't really need another mobile Mac, I'll probably be sticking with my aging PB. But once Leopard ships with a 2.33GHz 17" MBPro, I'll probably give up waiting after I get my 8 Core Dual Clovertown first.

 

[MacBoobsPro]

Just got my MacBook!

Not a sound from the fans. No dead pixels. Zips along like a freakin rocket. MagSafe is much better than I thought it was going to be. Magnetic screen lock is excellent. Glossy screen is good but I would prefer a matte option. I generally use my laptop sat to the right of myself on my desk and there is a window behind the laptop that reflects light off myself and back onto the glossy screen so there is a slightly annoying reflection im not used to. Keyboard is good but looks a bit like a 'kids toy' however it is easy to use and quick to get used to. Trackpad has a textured feel to it which I feel will collect grime from fingers after a while unlike the iBook where the trackpad is nice and smooth.

 

[rugonnaeatthat]

You mean the 2405 wide - 1920 x 1200? How does it perform? Using what applications? You mean a total of 1.25 GB or only 1GB? Thanks.

Hi Multi,

You're right I should be much more specific as some might be in need of details.

I have 1.25GB of ram at the moment and I would NOT advise anyone to own a macbook without at least this much Ram. It is simply amazing how much difference a little bit of Ram makes - especially with the Creative Suite. From being unusable and taking minutes to switch between windows, to being very fluidic and not that different to my iMac G5. To answer your questions I was running photoshop, indesign and golive in unison.

I forget the resolution of the Dell, but it is only about a month old so it is current gen and it was running at full native res on the macbook via DVI. The great thing about the Macbook is you can run it with the lid closed, so I had my blutooth keyboard, my mighty mouse and the 20inch - very nice combo!

 

[7on]

ooo, the DVD burner is also really quiet when burning DVDs

 

[rugonnaeatthat]

of concern is my Macbooks spacebar. It often unhinges itself, and comes a little loose particular on the right hand side - when this happens the space bar doesn't work as well and I start to miss spaces when I type! To temporarily fix I just have to push it down till it clicks into place... hmmmm anyone else in the same boat?

 

[MBW]

New MB here (first time mac user as well), i have no whine, no heat issues...BUT, on occasion my macbook won't shutdown in a timely manner. The first time this happened I shut it down manually by pressing down the power button. The second time i waited, maybe 2 minutes, tapped the power button, and maybe 5 seconds later it shut down. This only seems to happen when i have the computer on for a while.

My other issue is with my external speakers. I have some altec 5.1 speakers that work perfectly with my PC....but the volume is probably half as loud when connected to my MB. Maybe the speakers are not mac compatible???

I'm more worried about the shutting down issue...any ideas??

 

[Multimedia]

Turn Up The Volume

New MB here (first time mac user as well), My other issue is with my external speakers. I have some altec 5.1 speakers that work perfectly with my PC....but the volume is probably half as loud when connected to my MB. Maybe the speakers are not mac compatible???

Guessing you forgot to turn up the Mac's audio output level all the way. It needs to be on max to drive your pre-amp. It's in the Sound system Prefs. Also check "Show volume in menu bar" option on bottom of input pane so you can drag the volume slider up all the way there. Aren't there volume buttons on the MacBook keypad (upper right)?

 

[Multimedia]

Call Apple Care And Get That Space Bar Fixed

of concern is my Macbooks spacebar. It often unhinges itself, and comes a little loose particular on the right hand side - when this happens the space bar doesn't work as well and I start to miss spaces when I type! To temporarily fix I just have to push it down till it clicks into place... hmmmm anyone else in the same boat?

I would call Applecare and get them to send you a shipping box to get that fixed ASAP. DO NOT live with it. That's a serious defect.

 

[Multimedia]

20" or 24"? You Said 24" First. Now You Say 20". Was The Display Fast?

Hi Multi,

You're right I should be much more specific as some might be in need of details.

I have 1.25GB of ram at the moment and I would NOT advise anyone to own a macbook without at least this much Ram. It is simply amazing how much difference a little bit of Ram makes - especially with the Creative Suite. From being unusable and taking minutes to switch between windows, to being very fluidic and not that different to my iMac G5. To answer your questions I was running photoshop, indesign and golive in unison.

I forget the resolution of the Dell, but it is only about a month old so it is current gen and it was running at full native res on the macbook via DVI. The great thing about the Macbook is you can run it with the lid closed, so I had my blutooth keyboard, my mighty mouse and the 20inch - very nice combo!

20" or 24"? You Said 24" First. Now You Say 20". Was The Display Fast? Could you tell the graphics are "Integrated"? Or was it just as fast as usual?

Would you please call your brother and ask him the size and resolution of that display? MB maximum support is 24" 1920 x 1200. I want to know if that is what you were satisfactorily driving. Thanks.

And you're also saying that Rosetta CS work is not too slow either - similar to a single processor G5 running at what speed?

 

[andrewface]

No they won't. It's called "Just-In-Time" Logistics. Apple only receives more processors every 24-48 hours before they need them. As for inventory already produced, they will lower the price on those in the stores and put the returns on the refurb page. It will be a little sticky as Yonah buyers realize the error of their ways. But it's an inevitable ugly moment Apple will just have to grin and bear.

Those of us who waited will try and be as compassionate as possible and focus on not gloating. Those who didn't will continue to enjoy their Yonahs until the sky falls.

thank you b-comm haha

 

[x86]

Anyone using a MacBook have kind of a mushy mouse button? Sometimes I have to hit it a couple of times before it registers. This could be me though, my PowerBooks button has more of a 'snap' to it and I may have just become a little too accustomed to it.

 

[slffl]

New MB here (first time mac user as well), i have no whine, no heat issues...BUT, on occasion my macbook won't shutdown in a timely manner. The first time this happened I shut it down manually by pressing down the power button. The second time i waited, maybe 2 minutes, tapped the power button, and maybe 5 seconds later it shut down. This only seems to happen when i have the computer on for a while.

Well since you're a new mac user, I thought I'd ask if you've tried using sleep? Since I've been using my PB I've never shut it down.

 

[rugonnaeatthat]

20" or 24"? You Said 24" First. Now You Say 20". Was The Display Fast? Could you tell the graphics are "Integrated"? Or was it just as fast as usual?

Would you please call your brother and ask him the size and resolution of that display? MB maximum support is 24" 1920 x 1200. I want to know if that is what you were satisfactorily driving. Thanks.

And you're also saying that Rosetta CS work is not too slow either - similar to a single processor G5 running at what speed?

Geese Multi, you sound like an old lady! So insistant

24 inch dell, my apologies for mixing it up. Max res of that screen is 1920x1200. It ran without a clitch. I didn't try any games mind you. The integrated graphics have not been an issue for me thus far, however I think they will limit the macbook in the future. I remember how dissapointed I felt when Tiger came out and my little ibook G3 600 couldn't animate the droplet effect of adding new widgets or a host of cool transitions in Keynote.

I have been really impressed by how well the macbook has handled the Creative Suite. Granted I'm doing a lot of web work at the moment which is all low res - but the little guy 'feels' like my G5 (imac 2ghz). NOTE: It's very subjective. I haven't tried loading up a book in Indesign or a major print project, but I have loaded up and worked with some hig res stock photogrpahy in Photoshop. Based on my exerience I'd be happy to do all my creative suite work on the Macbook as I don't see the performance hit of Rosetta impeding my creativity. Which is also a tribute to how solid the computer feels under Rosetta - no crashes and believe me it was pushed to the limit.

I should say again that with 512mb of RAM this was a totally different story. when running Rosetta apps it felt as slow as my ancient blue and white ibook G3 333 running OSX with 125mb of ram! Now that is slow!

 

[rugonnaeatthat]

Multi,

I forgot to mention all my working files are on an external firewire disk. I imagine this would speed things up a little too leaving the system to hog the internal.

Also my working PS website file is 564mb.

 

[netdog]

Multi is just a bit antsy because he wants to hold out for the Merom, but his MacBook jones is huge. Can't say I blame him, but while I share his views about the benefits of waiting for the 64bit cooler faster chip, I instead chose to scratch my itch. At this point, his unsatisfied itch is simply driving him mad.

His unquenched desire has caused him to spend so much time on the subject, however, that he provides a lot of great information here for soon to be and recent MB buyers. Perhaps he will join those of us in the latter group one day.

 

[Snide]

Never underestimate the seductive power of the Macbook...

Multi is just a bit antsy because he wants to hold out for the Merom, but his MacBook jones is huge. Can't say I blame him, but while I share his views about the benefits of waiting for the 64bit cooler faster chip, I instead chose to scratch my itch. At this point, his unsatisfied itch is simply driving him mad.

His unquenched desire has caused him to spend so much time on the subject, however, that he provides a lot of great information here for soon to be and recent MB buyers. Perhaps he will join those of us in the latter group one day.

LOL. Very astute observation. Multi might surprise us and crack sooner than expected.

You never know...

 

[Willis]

i went to the apple store today.... god those macbooks are nice. keyboard was odd, but got used to it after a few minutes. AND UK keyboards have a different keyboard to the US setups. I think someone mentioned this in a thread about reapplying thermal paste or something or the other.

just thought i'd make a mention

 

[ImNoSuperMan]

Those of us who waited will try and be as compassionate as possible and focus on not gloating. Those who didn't will continue to enjoy their Yonahs until the sky falls.

And those of us who are really smart will change their Yonah MB for the Merom ones if there is really one hell of a difference between the two. No need to to keep waiting till merom MB and getting frustrated during the process. Just sell the Yonah MB if you feel the need. Money lost for selling a 6 months old MB will be definitely justifiable for 6 months use of MacBook IMHO.

 

[ImNoSuperMan]

His unquenched desire has caused him to spend so much time on the subject, however, that he provides a lot of great information here for soon to be and recent MB buyers.

Also dont forget the entertainment factor. He really adds a lot of unmatched entertainment value to these forums which no one else is capable of. To top it off, he does it unknowingly most of the times;
Just kidding. No offense meant.

 

[Jack1991]

I just ordered my Macbook today. I got the 2ghz white model with a 1 gig of RAM upgrade. anybody have any estimates based on expierience how long itll take until i get it?

by the way- i live in ny

 

[macEfan]

how are the screens on the MB's? nice and bright? Glary?

I might get my cousin to buy one

 

[Multimedia]

Entertainment Value Is Always My Top Priority

Also dont forget the entertainment factor. He really adds a lot of unmatched entertainment value to these forums which no one else is capable of. To top it off, he does it unknowingly most of the times;
Just kidding. No offense meant.

Well that's not really true. I am completely aware of the entertainment value I provide with every post as that is my #1 Priotity - keeping all of you laughing - which is quite a challenge. The idea that you think I do it "unknowlingly" shows just what a good job I'm doing. Thanks for the complement.

Oh, in case you think I'm gonna buy one, my eye is really on a 17" 2.33GHz Merom MBP this Fall. Meanwhile I am helping clients with old iBooks buy MacBooks.