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A little cheaper MacBook (Pro)'s couldn't hurt, but i'd prefer an amazing innovation on Apple's part plus a rock stable hardware setup without a thousand problems within the first few month (thinking of still cracking topcases on MB's, fist gen. MBP and MB overheating, inexplicable WiFi problems etc.).
Irrespective of whether existing users want Blueray or even an optical drive, i think that with regards to expanding the market share and attracting new users it would be a deal breaker. As much as Vista probably doing a better job than Apple themselves in attracting new users to OSX, many users possibly would not switch if they at the very least don’t have features that come "as standard" on their PC notebooks.
As for me personally, I would love HDMI out so that I can hook my Mac to a HDTV, but not really bothered about Blueray at all (but I don’t see one coming without the other as already mentioned by another forum member). I have a BD drive on my Viao and do not make use of it all, but an optical drive is a must, it’s one of the reasons I prefer the Macbook over the Macbook Air. Ultimately I would be content with a spec bump, lower price and nice new design.
As for me personally, I would love HDMI out so that I can hook my Mac to a HDTV, but not really bothered about Blueray at all (but I don’t see one coming without the other as already mentioned by another forum member). I have a BD drive on my Viao and do not make use of it all, but an optical drive is a must, it’s one of the reasons I prefer the Macbook over the Macbook Air. Ultimately I would be content with a spec bump, lower price and nice new design.
Apple and HD content
Hallo,
I am totally new to the Mac community, and sorry for my english, it might not be the best as I am from Germany
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I also wait for the new MacBook Pro, as I use things like Maya etc. I cannot imagine that Apple will release the MacBook before the new Pros because nobody will buy the Pros for more than 1000 extra, with Hardware not worth(I know it is good hardware at all but old). If there will be a new release of Notebooks Apple will update both or let one die.
I also think that they will not build in Blue Ray devices, because Apple offers HD Content through ITunes and as we could see on the MacBAir their is no device for optical media at all. So why should they give us the possibility to use diffrent media as blueray disks than their own stuff from ITunes. Also the often wished pricedrops would be obsolete with bluerays (249$!!!)...
is an profit oriented company so they want to sell their own stuff.... not the one from others
But never the less I hope they will release the new Notebooks soon, but as the BtS offer startet today in Germany an will end on October 31 I still think we have to wait. Besides why do all other country do get more rebates on Ipods than we in Germany
PS: good job here in the Forum, otherwise I would have bought an MacPro before the Update
Hallo,
I am totally new to the Mac community, and sorry for my english, it might not be the best as I am from Germany
. I also wait for the new MacBook Pro, as I use things like Maya etc. I cannot imagine that Apple will release the MacBook before the new Pros because nobody will buy the Pros for more than 1000 extra, with Hardware not worth(I know it is good hardware at all but old). If there will be a new release of Notebooks Apple will update both or let one die.
I also think that they will not build in Blue Ray devices, because Apple offers HD Content through ITunes and as we could see on the MacBAir their is no device for optical media at all. So why should they give us the possibility to use diffrent media as blueray disks than their own stuff from ITunes. Also the often wished pricedrops would be obsolete with bluerays (249$!!!)...
is an profit oriented company so they want to sell their own stuff.... not the one from others But never the less I hope they will release the new Notebooks soon, but as the BtS offer startet today in Germany an will end on October 31 I still think we have to wait. Besides why do all other country do get more rebates on Ipods than we in Germany
PS: good job here in the Forum, otherwise I would have bought an MacPro before the Update
Some are having troubles with 'popping & hissing ' noises ...
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=c190&search=Go&q=audio+popping+crackle+hiss
http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/index.php?title=MacBook_Pro
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/443692/
Wait, were you under the impression that I was talking about Macs? That wasn't the case.
Besides, a Jeep isn't much cheaper than a Land Rover Defender around these parts (Denmark). Also, a Jeep (especially that big one) has a reputation of being more show than go. Anyway, as mentioned, the only reason I showed a defender was that I prefered function over form, and that I thought that could be beautiful in itself –*this was in response to someone who considered the Thinkpad "too ugly".
Besides, I think you should take a look at what militaries around the world use, before you (seem to) infer that Land Rover Defenders aren't capable.
Or DisplayPort, which can run in DVI/HDMI mode with an adapter.
However, mini VGA + HDMI probably makes more sense.
Edit:
The DisplayPort website displays a MacBook Pro with DisplayPort + S-Video:
http://www.displayport.org/open/Interoperability.htm
This problem can be solved by soldering a wire from the wifi module to the case. With that, the case being metal, will work as an extension to the antenna by itself. I think they had that approach on older powermac models, but i might be wrong.
Maybe the MacBook Pro finally gets Blu-ray support.
That would still be a reason for keeping the Macbook Pro in the notebook line and the price difference.
I'm hoping for a black aluminum 13" Macbook with a 1440x900 resolution but I'm almost sure that it will never come...
That would still be a reason for keeping the Macbook Pro in the notebook line and the price difference.
I'm hoping for a black aluminum 13" Macbook with a 1440x900 resolution but I'm almost sure that it will never come...
The Blu-ray support will be available only on update 10.5.6 of Mac OSX, i guess... so i think they wont ship models with a drive without supporting it unless we could use some 3rd party software for it...
But yes, i agree with you, it would be really nice to have Blu-ray. On what concerns the 13" display, it would be very expensive, at least with that resolution.
blu ray is definitely important. i see things like itunes movies and apple TV replacing services like netflix or on-demand movies on cable, but digital media will not replace optical media as a format anytime soon, especially HD like blu ray.
iTunes/apple TV HD movies arent full 1080 HD like blu ray. this doesnt matter so much on a laptop screen which usually doesnt even hit 1080, but if you plan to watch it on your HDTV then it does matter. full HD quality digital media is not at all practical due to bandwidth and storage space.
on the go, physical media makes more sense than iTunes movie rentals/downloads. when you are on the go, you typically dont have internet at all (ie in the car/plane/train) or only have limited internet (wifi hotpots, hotel internet, etc) so you cant really download a movie to watch. you can download them at home before hand, but then you have a limited time frame you have to watch them in if you rent. you could buy instead of rent, but then it costs as much as a DVD for something of lower quality and highly restricted (DRM).
then theres always the factors of actually having something physical you can hold in your hand and the freedom of playing it on any player, lending it to a friend, selling it, etc. these are things that digital distribution will never be able to replicate.
a blu ray drive in the MBP does make sense and IMO should be included in this update since that is the format that HD movie distribution has already moved to.
the $2499 price point of the current MBP 15" 2.5ghz allows for a lot of equipment going by PC prices today. apple should be able to throw in 2.8ghz, 4gb ram, 320gb hd, 512mb graphics, and blu ray for that price and still have a hefty margin.
They schould get rid of the 13" macbooks and increase the screen to
14.1".........I rekon 13" is just abit too small
Also I work at an electronics retailer that sells Apple computers and i do remember reading an email a couple of weeks ago outlining that some Apple Comptuers will be in short supply for the comming weeks.......
Guessing to make way for the new macbooks
This exact same thing happend with the Ipods........we didnt not get sent much stock of the old ipods for about 3 weeks prior to the launch of the new range and they didnt say why.
14.1".........I rekon 13" is just abit too small
Also I work at an electronics retailer that sells Apple computers and i do remember reading an email a couple of weeks ago outlining that some Apple Comptuers will be in short supply for the comming weeks.......
Guessing to make way for the new macbooks
This exact same thing happend with the Ipods........we didnt not get sent much stock of the old ipods for about 3 weeks prior to the launch of the new range and they didnt say why.
MS Office doesn't match iLife, it matches iWork, which is not included in a MacBook Pro. Vista Ultimate is basically Business + Home Premium, which, unless you own a business, is worthless.
MacBook Pro
2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
250GB
Double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB
15-inch 1440x900
WebCam (standard)
5.4lbs
$2,499.00
HP dv5t
2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3GB Memory
320GB
Blu-Ray with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
15-inch 1680x1050
WebCam (standard)
5.83lbs
$1,702.99
Get your gun ready
You have to know that I'm currently a PC (Windows XP) user. Even with what your reply makes me realize, I would NEVER, NEVER buy a PC again!!
With my PC, I'm having troubles with McAfee: the software doesn't want to uninstall even if it is outdated. I'm having trouble with Internet explorer and every other browser (even Safari) because I'm no longer protected by my antivirus software. When a use a new hardware, my computer takes minutes to recognize it (no it is not an old computer, but it is a Dell one lol).... I could make a list like that for a long time!
THIS is the every-day-life of a PC user
PS: Sorry for the bad English.
Let's all say "BD" instead of 17 variations of Blu-ray Disc
That's right - the problem with the online model is the bandwidth to the home. Movies on a BD can be 30 to 40 Mbps - 25GB wasn't enough space for a standard movie.
There's also BD-Interactive, the menus and extras. Most downloads are not as feature-rich as the BD.
YES! Once you start to build a library of BD movies, you'll want to play those disc on whatever device you have. Why should you have to transcode the movie (if you even can) to watch it on the MB instead of the MBP?
Radio-frequency antenna design is a lot more than connecting a wire to metal. High frequencies need smaller antennae, the large case of a laptop would probably kill the signal, and the impedance mismatch could damage the WiFi card.
My bet. The next Apple displays will be DisplayPort, and all of the systems will switch to DisplayPort as well (with dongles as needed to drive older monitors).
You won't be able to watch porn if your video card is discreet!
(check the definition of "discrete" vs. "discreet" )
That's right - the problem with the online model is the bandwidth to the home. Movies on a BD can be 30 to 40 Mbps - 25GB wasn't enough space for a standard movie.
There's also BD-Interactive, the menus and extras. Most downloads are not as feature-rich as the BD.
YES! Once you start to build a library of BD movies, you'll want to play those disc on whatever device you have. Why should you have to transcode the movie (if you even can) to watch it on the MB instead of the MBP?
Radio-frequency antenna design is a lot more than connecting a wire to metal. High frequencies need smaller antennae, the large case of a laptop would probably kill the signal, and the impedance mismatch could damage the WiFi card.
My bet. The next Apple displays will be DisplayPort, and all of the systems will switch to DisplayPort as well (with dongles as needed to drive older monitors).
You won't be able to watch porn if your video card is discreet!
(check the definition of "discrete" vs. "discreet"
)
well, anyone?
I think that when people say "Macbook" they are referring to that AND the pro.
Anyone?
You won't be able to watch porn if your video card is discreet!
(check the definition of "discrete" vs. "discreet"
Merriam-Webster said:
He definitely didn't mean discrete, he meant #2. having a 'discrete' video card is a pretty silly way of saying 'dedicated' graphics card.
This is what Apple was refering to when they were discussing lower margins awhile back. Laptop price have declined about 40% over the last two years. Well, most laptop prices.
I agree that Macs are a little pricey, but do not just look at the numbers, the Macs eye for detail/build quality is often overlooked, if you look for similar spec'ed,similar constructed,similar finished products, then that price gap is suddenly quite a bit smaller. Macs don't come in flexible creaking cases for instance...
I agree. The inbuilt dictionary in OSX says "discreet" means this:
OS X Dictionary said:
I agree that Macs are a little pricey, but do not just look at the numbers, the Macs eye for detail/build quality is often overlooked, if you look for similar spec'ed,similar constructed,similar finished products, then that price gap is suddenly quite a bit smaller. Macs don't come in flexible creaking cases for instance...
Really? An eye for build quality? LOL!
Btw, my MBP flexes and creaks. In fact, if you take a close look at the build and assembly quality of Macs compared to many other laptops out there, the price gap is widened even further. Hell, even the anodising used on the aluminium is a cheapo.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=da-dk&q=pitting+Macbook-pro&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
The GPU in an integrated graphics solution is certainly dedicated to graphics.
He meant "discrete" - a separate chip for graphics.
My eeePC has the Intel GMA GPU in the Intel chipset. My Dell Latitude has a discrete Nvidia Quadro GPU in a separate chip.
My Dell octo workstation has two PCIe graphics cards, each with its own separate Quadro GPU chip.
Check your favorite search engine for the number of hits on "discrete graphics" vs. "discreet graphics". Far, far more for "discrete graphics" (and you'll see that spell checkers have trouble with homonyms).
Please let there be a laptop with a 15 inch screen that does not cost $2000.00! Call me cheap, but I simply will not be forced to pay $2000 for a 15 inch laptop with more perfomance then I need... no matter how much I love Apple.
I need an Apple Lap Top.. with a screen bigger then 13 inches and it does not need to have Pro Specs! If Apple does not fill this "black hole" in their product lineup they may lose me as a customer.
REVAMP THE LINE UP AND THE PRICING POINTS - IT IS SO FAR OUT OF WHACK IT IS NOT EVEN SILLY!
I need an Apple Lap Top.. with a screen bigger then 13 inches and it does not need to have Pro Specs! If Apple does not fill this "black hole" in their product lineup they may lose me as a customer.
REVAMP THE LINE UP AND THE PRICING POINTS - IT IS SO FAR OUT OF WHACK IT IS NOT EVEN SILLY!
This is what Apple was refering to when they were discussing lower margins awhile back. Laptop price have declined about 40% over the last two years. Well, most laptop prices.
You are so absolutely SPOT ON it is unreal... anyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy who has replaced reason with faith... The Cult of Apple - join us, drink the kool aide and replace reason with faith.