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Ha Ha.....JK
 
So from the past few pages of pictures…
  • September 23 update of many Macs:
  • All MacBook Pros will be updated
  • All Mac minis will be updated
  • Midrange MacBook stays, gets a big pricedrop (lower margins…) to be sub-$1000, so it's now the low-end MacBook
  • Two or so new aluminum MacBooks at >$1000, to fill the area above the white MacBook
  • Probably nothing else
:p
 
So from the past few pages of pictures…
  • September 23 update of many Macs:
  • All MacBook Pros will be updated
  • All Mac minis will be updated
  • Midrange MacBook stays, gets a big pricedrop (lower margins…) to be sub-$1000, so it's now the low-end MacBook
  • Two or so new aluminum MacBooks at >$1000, to fill the area above the white MacBook
  • Probably nothing else
:p

Sounds perfect. Ughhh...I want it to happen already!!!!
 
The thread that will never die.

At least not until this Tuesday. Or next Tuesday. Or the one after that... :p
 
So from the past few pages of pictures…
  • September 23 update of many Macs:
  • All MacBook Pros will be updated
  • All Mac minis will be updated
  • Midrange MacBook stays, gets a big pricedrop (lower margins…) to be sub-$1000, so it's now the low-end MacBook
  • Two or so new aluminum MacBooks at >$1000, to fill the area above the white MacBook
  • Probably nothing else
:p

Does that involve dedicated graphics and no combo drive in the Macbook? :rolleyes:
 
Does that involve dedicated graphics and no combo drive in the Macbook? :rolleyes:
Since the low-end MacBook will have a SuperDrive, it's safe to say the aluminum ones will too. :p But with the graphics, it's a different story. People seem to think that if the MacBook goes aluminum, it'll be basically a smaller MacBook Pro. :rolleyes: In other words, the MacBook would still have an integrated GPU.

Joking based on the disappearance of products on the Apple Store aside, I expect SuperDrives in any notebook $999 or higher and integrated GPUs in MacBooks. The good news is that if Apple goes to NVIDIA chipsets, we would see much better integrated GPUs.
 
Since the low-end MacBook will have a SuperDrive, it's safe to say the aluminum ones will too. :p But with the graphics, it's a different story. People seem to think that if the MacBook goes aluminum, it'll be basically a smaller MacBook Pro. :rolleyes: In other words, the MacBook would still have an integrated GPU.

Joking based on the disappearance of products on the Apple Store aside, I expect SuperDrives in any notebook $999 or higher and integrated GPUs in MacBooks. The good news is that if Apple goes to NVIDIA chipsets, we would see much better integrated GPUs.

Yeah, but still absolutely the worst graphics processing you can find on a notebook greater than $1000, most likely. :(
 
Yeah, but still absolutely the worst graphics processing you can find on a notebook greater than $1000, most likely. :(
It's getting messy now over around ~$800. You're seeing fewer IGP and more really low end discrete solutions or IGP with dedicated VRAM.
 
It's getting messy now over around ~$800. You're seeing fewer IGP and more really low end discrete solutions or IGP with dedicated VRAM.

Right, and that's what the Macbook needs. A low-end dedicated GPU. Either that, or price it at $600 where it belongs.
 
Right, and that's what the Macbook needs. A low-end dedicated GPU. Either that, or price it at $600 where it belongs.
Sadly Apple loves to pick expensive processors to prop up the slow IGP solutions and wonderful "it's faster!" benchmarks on their pages.

I expect $999 as being a "good price" for a 2.26 GHz, 2 GB RAM, SuperDrive, and, GMA X4500HD Macbook.
 
Sadly Apple loves to pick expensive processors to prop up the slow IGP solutions and wonderful "it's faster!" benchmarks on their pages.

I expect $999 as being a "good price" for a 2.26 GHz, 2 GB RAM, SuperDrive, and, GMA X4500HD Macbook.

Yeah, I'm a firm believer in lower-end processors (I never have had need for a lot of CPU power) and higher-end graphics. Unfortunately, that's exactly the opposite of what Apple offers.
 
So from the past few pages of pictures…
  • September 23 update of many Macs:
  • All MacBook Pros will be updated
  • All Mac minis will be updated
  • Midrange MacBook stays, gets a big pricedrop (lower margins…) to be sub-$1000, so it's now the low-end MacBook
  • Two or so new aluminum MacBooks at >$1000, to fill the area above the white MacBook
  • Probably nothing else
:p

Yes, that sounds perfect! :D
 
I would be surprised to find an update this Tuesday, although it would renew some confidence (for me) in Apple's computers.

I am fairly disappointed in Apple for what I view as a shift of focus towards the iPhone. Yes they are cool and I want one, but I think that the computers that they make have suffered because of it.

The mediocre bump in February left a lot to be desired, combined with the GPU failures and LED issues in the MBP's I would say that Apple has already made it clear that they are in no hurry to update the hardware to accommodate these fixes.

I also hope that they don't decide to make the laptops thinner...the smaller you get in a laptop the higher the likelihood of heat related failure, not to mention the inevitable reduction in specs. Lighter is more important than thinner IMHO.

Finally if Apple continues selling the MBP's without an update, and then updates the MB's, then Im fairly certain that Steve has lost his mind. I understand that they are trying to make the consumer line super accessible and that for the average user, these updates would not be noticeable. But I firmly believe that the Pro lines should be a huge jump above the consumer lines.
 
Just throwing this in the hat...for opinions.

I noticed today that my local Bestbuy has run an ad for a white macbook 2.4ghz intel core 2 duo, 2gb drr2, 160gb hard, dvd/cdrw, blah blah blah. Normally Bestbuy is pretty good about not advertising products before an imminent product release. Ex: not advertising ipods the sunday before let's rock event. I know Bestbuy being a reseller has no prior knowledge or inside release schedules for product especially Apple products but it does deter my hopes for this tuesday.

Now playing devils advocate: shopko has advertised 'new' ipod nanos this sunday and the particular model they have advertised made me laugh. Its the old 3g nano 'fatty'! Really shopko!? They must buy a couple refurb pallets of ipods and just slap new on the side. Or maybe they took Apples word a little too strong...when they sent out internal emails telling vendors to stock up on current models to prevent shortages. This makes me hopefull that bestbuy, like shopko, is so far out of the loop that they will advertise anything to make a sale!


You be the judge.
 
I would be surprised to find an update this Tuesday, although it would renew some confidence (for me) in Apple's computers.

I am fairly disappointed in Apple for what I view as a shift of focus towards the iPhone. Yes they are cool and I want one, but I think that the computers that they make have suffered because of it.

The mediocre bump in February left a lot to be desired, combined with the GPU failures and LED issues in the MBP's I would say that Apple has already made it clear that they are in no hurry to update the hardware to accommodate these fixes.

I also hope that they don't decide to make the laptops thinner...the smaller you get in a laptop the higher the likelihood of heat related failure, not to mention the inevitable reduction in specs. Lighter is more important than thinner IMHO.

Finally if Apple continues selling the MBP's without an update, and then updates the MB's, then Im fairly certain that Steve has lost his mind. I understand that they are trying to make the consumer line super accessible and that for the average user, these updates would not be noticeable. But I firmly believe that the Pro lines should be a huge jump above the consumer lines.

I feel as if they have left the updates too long (definitely if it does not occur either this week or in the next couple). It has been so long since the MBs and MBPs were updated, the technology is outdated and behind other brands in the market. If Apple want to capitalize on the notebook market this quarter, they better bring out something new soon.
 
I would be surprised to find an update this Tuesday, although it would renew some confidence (for me) in Apple's computers.

I'll also be surprised, unless it's just another spec refresh and nothing more.

I am fairly disappointed in Apple for what I view as a shift of focus towards the iPhone. Yes they are cool and I want one, but I think that the computers that they make have suffered because of it.

I'm not sure the computers have really suffered. Apple has a good thing going with its laptop lines (number 1 on college campuses and a huge jump in market share overall), and they're riding the wave toward maximum returns on their design investments. The current machines are still great machines; if they weren't, people wouldn't be buying them.

The mediocre bump in February left a lot to be desired, combined with the GPU failures and LED issues in the MBP's I would say that Apple has already made it clear that they are in no hurry to update the hardware to accommodate these fixes.

The mediocre bump was really only disappointing to people who wanted things like a mag latch, a chicklet keyboard, or a nifty new case design. Otherwise, it made the MBP offerings current enough. AS for the GPU and LED issues, those kinds of gremlins might involve third party suppliers and therefore take a long time to eradicate.

I agree with everything else you said.
 
It's getting messy now over around ~$800. You're seeing fewer IGP and more really low end discrete solutions or IGP with dedicated VRAM.
Interesting. You mean "really low end" as in as far below low-end as low-end is below midrange?

Yeah, I'm a firm believer in lower-end processors (I never have had need for a lot of CPU power) and higher-end graphics. Unfortunately, that's exactly the opposite of what Apple offers.
I have found that I need more CPU power than GPU power. However, I don't see why Apple can't just offer the opposite as a BTO option.
 
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