MacBook Shipments Have Begun?

[NewMacbookPlz]

So Oct 14 confirmed or the week before? Pls be the latter since I'll be leaving the country on the week of the 14th, and I desperately need a new laptop by then ^^;

I was there on Friday of this past week, so the 26th. 10/14 would be 3.5 weeks away...so I wouldn't expect anything prior, but who knows. The best indication would be to keep a look out on Engadget or somewhere of the like for press invitations to an event a week or two prior. If none of those, it'll likely be a silent launch

 

[Toe]

Whenever I look at PC's, I have to remind myself that millions of people use these computers for everything I want to use my new Macbook for; and yet I found the Sony Vaio to be inferior. This surprised me because I think of Sony as a universally quality product.

They standard for quality in the Windows world is so low that Sony's crappy product is actually good compared to the baseline.

 

[kabunaru]

They standard for quality in the Windows world is so low that Sony's crappy product is actually good compared to the baseline.

Sony = Apple of PCs

 

[Tosser]

Sony = Apple of PCs

Unfortunately, the equivalent to Apple in the PC world used to be Thinkpads. Nowadays people have to settle for "sony quality"

 

[kabunaru]

Unfortunately, the equivalent to Apple in the PC world used to be Thinkpads. Nowadays people have to settle for "sony quality" )

Thinkpad = 2nd Apple of PCs.
There is two Apple in PC World: Sony and Thinkpad.

 

[Tosser]

Thinkpad = 2nd Apple of PCs.
There is two Apple in PC World: Sony and Apple.

LOL, you really believe that a Mac has the build quality of a thinkpad?

 

[kabunaru]

LOL, you really believe that a Mac has the build quality of a thinkpad?

I consider mine to be good. My is still going strong after two years and it never gave me problems. It is a Core Duo MacBook and I am happy with it.

Have to wait to what to say about the iMac though.

 

[iMacmatician]

By the way, do you gentlemen think that since the new MacBook will be aluminium that might be confused by people with the MacBook Air in real life?

• MacBook Air, MacBook Pro = Black keyboard, silver (regular) display bezel.
• MacBook, iMac = White keyboard, black display bezel.

We would also see other minor differences such as taperedness, thickness, and ports.

Do you like the 4:3 ratio?

Can't really say, since I've only used 4:3. But I'd say 16:10 would be good for tabs, toolbars, sidebar (width), and Dock icon (size). Both 1280·800 and 1366·768 would be fine since I'd be upgrading from 1024·768.

Can you make a 4:3 ratio MacBook Pro mock-up, please?
Thank you.

Here you go.

 

[MowingDevil]

I know the feeling I'm having a hard trouble waiting too. But knowing it's just a couple of weeks away soothes the pain

I hate to burst your lil' soothing bubble there but you don't know. Nobody does. It could be a couple of MONTHS before you see anything, maybe even Jan. People have been saying 'a couple of weeks' since JUNE!

 

[Aranince]

I hate to burst your lil' soothing bubble there but you don't know. Nobody does. It could be a couple of MONTHS before you see anything, maybe even Jan. People have been saying 'a couple of weeks' since JUNE!

Why not just tear our hearts out why don't you.

 

[gadgetgirl85]

I'm not going to explain my rationale why it won't be January, it's around somewhere. Anyway, let the agony begin tomorrow eh

 

[Detektiv-Pinky]

• MacBook Air, MacBook Pro = Black keyboard, silver (regular) display bezel.
• MacBook, iMac = White keyboard, black display bezel.

We would also see other minor differences such as taperedness, thickness, and ports.

Can't really say, since I've only used 4:3. But I'd say 16:10 would be good for tabs, toolbars, sidebar (width), and Dock icon (size). Both 1280·800 and 1366·768 would be fine since I'd be upgrading from 1024·768.

Here you go.

I would not consider the move from 768 to 800 an 'upgrade'

Since quite a while now I am working with 1200 (vertically) and would never, ever want to go back. I can put a full page of any (pdf)-document on the screen and it is readable. With 1920x1200 you could put 2 pages next to each other, which is nice, but not nearly as important as being able to see the complete page vertically.
That's the reason that I see the current move to 16:9 as bad, because very,very likely this will lead to 1920:1080 instead of 2133:1200.
This way I am loosing screen-estate where I am most need it...

 

[gwmac]

I'm not going to explain my rationale why it won't be January, it's around somewhere. Anyway, let the agony begin tomorrow eh

Viccles, I feel your pain.
I don't think it will be tomorrow (I'm waiting for one for my daughter to go to uni - decided to go with an old acer laptop for now, spent most of yesterday getting all her stuff on it).
I am waiting until Oct 14th, if nothing on that day, deffo going for a white one with ipod etc.

 

[Tosser]

I would not consider the move from 768 to 800 an 'upgrade'

Since quite a while now I am working with 1200 (vertically) and would never, ever want to go back. I can put a full page of any (pdf)-document on the screen and it is readable. With 1920x1200 you could put 2 pages next to each other, which is nice, but not nearly as important as being able to see the complete page vertically.
That's the reason that I see the current move to 16:9 as bad, because very,very likely this will lead to 1920:1080 instead of 2133:1200.
This way I am loosing screen-estate where I am most need it...

I agree.
I'm on an MBP (16:10) right now. I miss my vertical real estate and when I buy myself my thinkpad, I will seriously consider one of the 4:3s, unless I go for the X300 which have the exact same vertical resolution as this pitting-magnet.

 

[Detektiv-Pinky]

I agree.
I'm on an MBP (16:10) right now. I miss my vertical real estate and when I buy myself my thinkpad, I will seriously consider one of the 4:3s, unless I go for the X300 which have the exact same vertical resolution as this pitting-magnet.

You should hurry up then. I think that also Lenovo is about to phase out 4:3 on their new models (so much for consumer choice ).

I have read your post in the other thread about hackintoshing the thinkpad. Do you think that is a reliable alternative? I have toyed with this idea, but have not yet found the time to really look into it...

 

[Tosser]

You should hurry up then. I think that also Lenovo is about to phase out 4:3 on their new models (so much for consumer choice ).

Yeah, I get the same feeling. Let's hope this ws fad is over soon

I have read your post in the other thread about hackintoshing the thinkpad. Do you think that is a reliable alternative? I have toyed with this idea, but have not yet found the time to really look into it...

I wouldn't say it's reliable per se. I think it depends on what you do. I have found key apps for my work that I can get on both the windows platform and OS X. This means I won't be screwed if the OSX part is cocked up suddenly. However, depending on the exact model, I think you can get a very reliable system (well, as reliable as OS X is on the mac platform excluding hardware problems on the platform).

 

[Detektiv-Pinky]

I wouldn't say it's reliable per se. I think it depends on what you do. I have found key apps for my work that I can get on both the windows platform and OS X. This means I won't be screwed if the OSX part is cocked up suddenly. However, depending on the exact model, I think you can get a very reliable system (well, as reliable as OS X is on the mac platform excluding hardware problems on the platform).

Well, I just made the move away from Windows (did not want to make the move to Vista and XP surely is a dead end, since MS will force people over sooner or later...).

I have some experience in almost all PC-OSes (Windows, Solaris, *BSD, Linux) and they all tend to suck here or there. What I liked about OSX is the BSD-foundation and the commercial application support (useful where needed). At my day and age I need some of the stuff to 'just work', as I simply no longer have the time to recompile my kernel every 3 weeks

I found OSX quite a good compromise (except for the Finder, man I find this piece of SW is just plain unusable).

What I find most unsettling about Apple is this fixture on 'Secrecy'. I don't care what it looks, so they can keep this. However, I think they should open up their specs sooner, so that it is possible to decide - do I want to wait for feature X or do I better buy the current model. In the enterprise market this is called a 'Roadmap' and I would expect any big supplier to have one and be open about it. As I see it, this is one of the main reasons Apple had no success in the enterprise market...

And you are right, a little more choice in the HW-basis would be most welcome.

 

[XwiredTVA]

Sony = Apple of PCs

As someone who has worked in IT for nearly 2 decades....

Sony=Crap
IBM-Apple of PC's.

 

[XwiredTVA]

Well, I just made the move away from Windows (did not want to make the move to Vista and XP surely is a dead end, since MS will force people over sooner or later...).

I have some experience in almost all PC-OSes (Windows, Solaris, *BSD, Linux) and they all tend to suck here or there. What I liked about OSX is the BSD-foundation and the commercial application support (useful where needed). At my day and age I need some of the stuff to 'just work', as I simply no longer have the time to recompile my kernel every 3 weeks

I found OSX quite a good compromise (except for the Finder, man I find this piece of SW is just plain unusable).

It has it's faults. But if you tinker with it, create smart folders, search folders sets and really get to know it and Automator you'll find it's not as bad as you think. In fact I used to search for this/that and have to re-organize my stuff a couple times before I read a good book on OS X Tiger that had an entire chapter devoted to Finder. I don't recall it off the top of my head, it was available at the library in Palm Springs (Vacation, rainy, saw a poster for Kids Day at the library so we went, I read the entire book in 5hrs) I believe it was a PeachPit release. However there are tons of free info on the web about Finder and making the most of it.

 

[Detektiv-Pinky]

It has it's faults. But if you tinker with it, create smart folders, search folders sets and really get to know it and Automator you'll find it's not as bad as you think. In fact I used to search for this/that and have to re-organize my stuff a couple times before I read a good book on OS X Tiger that had an entire chapter devoted to Finder. I don't recall it off the top of my head, it was available at the library in Palm Springs (Vacation, rainy, saw a poster for Kids Day at the library so we went, I read the entire book in 5hrs) I believe it was a PeachPit release. However there are tons of free info on the web about Finder and making the most of it.

Nice try, but you will not get me venting about the finder just now

I am glad it works for some people. It clearly does not work for me. I NEED all my folders neatly in one place - and NO all the proposed workarounds for this are no SOLUTIONS, they are just workarounds...

I mainly use ForkLift now, but it lacks tight OS-integration.

 

[Erindipity]

Got this in my email today. Looks like Amazon's trying to unload some stock!! Could that be because new ones are on the way...?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&plgroup=2&docId=1000252411

 

[peepboon]

its the same in many retailers. Dixons group were out of stock for ages but few days ago, the BMB was in stock but was sold out next day. They seem to have the £699 MB for sale ATM. Seems like they get random deliveries now :S

 

[schepvin]

12inch MBP

hi

first time here

but do you think Apple will release a 12inch MBP next month or so???????

 

[X3n0 AcId]

hi

first time here

but do you think Apple will release a 12inch MBP next month or so???????

in my opinion ---- 'no'

 

[Roessnakhan]

hi

first time here

but do you think Apple will release a 12inch MBP next month or so???????

No.