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MacBook with Blu-Ray, Networked HDTV from Apple?

will tuesday just get here already!

I can almost garuntee Macbooks will NOT have bluray support, but MacBook pros could very well.

Bluray is not make or break for me, but i do not own a blu \ray dvd player, so i would happily take a blu ray dvd player in my soon to be bought macbook pro!
 
mac jones said:
What's this thing about Blu-ray?

there's like 10 disks for it.

Trust me, been there done that.

It's gonna be a while (long while probably).

OH, I know, you can get Blade Runner special edition and Batman!!!! :D
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Sorry you are stuck in 2006. Those of us in 2008 are enjoying literally thousands of BD titles. Check out www.blu-ray.com sometime.

Now excuse me while I watch Ironman and The Godfather I, II, & II in full 1080p with Dolby Digital 6.1.
 
blu-ray

If blu-ray is in the MB and MBPs come holiday season the MB and MBPs along with the release of the Dark Night on blu-ray will make a killing...
 
Mac4Obama said:
What would be at the top of your wishlist?
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1) Blu-Ray (#1 priority), and since I already HAVE 1 Blu Ray disc (Sleeping Beauty Platinum Edition...I got drawn in by the bonus DVD...), I am ready for Blu.

2) 16:9/16:10 (and yes, I'm informed. I've already HAD 16:9 to a certain extent on my current MacBook, which WILL be replaced/complemented if AAPL makes it worth my while)

3) An e-book reader a la the Amazon Kindle, Sony Reader, et al. I was considering getting a Kindle, but the fact that there's no wi-fi for those godawful dead zones with Amazon Whispernet (and the "no syncing required" deal... what a real gyp) is a real dealbreaker for me personally (and I hope Apple uses Amazon's books, that would be a different step...).

4) Halfway decent graphics. From what I'm seeing, we'll be getting exactly that on Tuesday... GH3, GH Aerosmith, and Diablo 3 (when that comes out) FTW!!! Oh, and maybe a little Sam & Max / Wallace & Gromit episodic game action thrown in on the side!

BJ
 
MacRumors said:


More rumors are trickling out in the days before Apple's notebook media event scheduled on October 14th, 2008.

EdibleApple reports that Kevin Rose revealed a new rumor at a live recording of the Diggnation podcast (not yet available). According to the report Rose said that the new MacBooks will support Blu-Ray drives.

Meanwhile, Jason Calacanis founder of Weblogs, Inc, claims that Apple is working on a networked television. Weblogs, Inc was the original parent company for Engadget and was sold to AOL for an estimated $25 million in 2005.

Rose was recently quite accurate in his iPod and iTunes predictions for Apple's September event. We've never heard a previous rumor from Calacanis, so it's unknown how accurate his sources tend to be.


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ok so does blu-ray support mean that it will HAVE (as an option of course) or the computer will just literally SUPPORT a BD drive...im confused.
 
AidenShaw said:
I find the clamors for 16:9 displays to be, pardon the directness, simply stupid for the most part.

Movies are not 16:9, so you'll still have letter-boxing whether your display is 16:9 or 16:10.

Another word for "wide-screen" is "short-screen". Would you want a super-widescreen that was 2048 x 640 ?

Of course not - the 640 vertical makes the screen almost useless, regardless of the width.

As long as there are more vertical pixels, I'm not that concerned with the aspect ratio -- but don't give me a short-screen and try to convince me that it is progress.
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Wide screen aspects give a cinematographer the best, most artistic canvas upon which to tell a story visually. The 2.35:1 Cinemascope ratio that is the most popular for artsy films/sci-fis more closely approximates the natural field of vision of human binocular vision than 4:3 does.

Also, the original intent of widescreen aspects, a technology that exploded in the 50's, was to get people into the theaters by offering something radically different from the tube. Ever since, that aspect is the one that dominates Hollywood filmmaking. BluRay now gives you that huge, epic feel in your living room.
 
wdaleherring said:
ok so does blu-ray support mean that it will HAVE (as an option of course) or the computer will just literally SUPPORT a BD drive...im confused.
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Blu-Ray support technically just means that it will support a Blu-Ray drive, it doesn't not mean the MB/MBPs will come with an internal BR drive. However that doesn't mean that it won't come with an internal BR drive either, so at very least (if this rumor is true) you should be able to use an external BR drive, and at most they will come with built in BR drives (or be an option to have one built in)
 
MasterNile said:
Blu-Ray support technically just means that it will support a Blu-Ray drive, it doesn't not mean the MB/MBPs will come with an internal BR drive. However that doesn't mean that it won't come with an internal BR drive either, so at very least (if this rumor is true) you should be able to use an external BR drive, and at most they will come with built in BR drives (or be an option to have one built in)
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+1 My feelings exactly. Hopefully they allow a Blu-Ray external for my MBA...:eek::D
 
jpine said:
If true, I really hope DVDSP will see an upgrade soon.
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Yeah, DVD SP and iDVD both need updates to handle BluRay.

More than that, though - I think there could be a big update to Quicktime, iDVD & DVDSP, and iWeb - merging the capabilities of the 3 basic products and then offering consumer or professional versions. I mean - we should be creating interactive Quicktime videos and video-based websites. I'm sure that anything iDVD produces today (animated menus, links to videos etc) could be produced as either a standalone Quicktime video or use Apple's new Java system for web sites - but it could go further too with interactivity within videos produced in iMovie etc.

I just figure... Apple doesn't want Adobe Flash because it's doing something itself.

But this is off topic... this is not focussing on Laptops.
 
I can't believe that in 14 pages of Mac TV speculation no one has said

Mac HDTV Touch

I mean, HP has a touchscreen computer, why not have it on a tv? you could have a special thimble to put on your finger so you don't scratch/smudge the screen with all the contact with your finger

I know it doesn't really have a practical use, but I just wanted to throw that out there and see where it goes...:D
 
Jak3 said:
I can't believe that in 14 pages of Mac TV speculation no one has said

Mac HDTV Touch

I mean, HP has a touchscreen computer, why not have it on a tv? you could have a special thimble to put on your finger so you don't scratch/smudge the screen with all the contact with your finger

I know it doesn't really have a practical use, but I just wanted to throw that out there and see where it goes...:D
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iMac touchscreen... big yes.
TV touchscreen... big no.
.... and neither for the focus-on-laptops event.

It's clear that we don't stand 2 feet from our TVs.

What would be interesting, and would probably require close working with a TV manufacturer, would be a whole new interface and method of controlling your TV from the couch. Most TVs even do the simple things badly (like zoom and aspect ratio should be 2 independent choices).
 
yoak said:
personally I need Blu-ray to make back up of my he footage on location. That's why a blu-ray writer would be perfect
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You can buy a giant external hard drive (TB) for less than a blu-ray drive. It holds vastly more information than a 50GB disc. The drive can be plugged into just about any other computer. The blu-ray disc can only be used on another computer with another blu-ray drive.
 
digitalbiker said:
Now excuse me while I watch Ironman and The Godfather I, II, & II in full 1080p with Dolby Digital 6.1.
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Absolutely worthy of a 50" display with a great sound system. On a laptop? Not so much. An iTunes download would suffice. Blu-ray for the home makes sense. It really doesn't for a laptop.
 
skellener said:
You can buy a giant external hard drive (TB) for less than a blu-ray drive. It holds vastly more information than a 50GB disc. The drive can be plugged into just about any other computer. The blu-ray disc can only be used on another computer with another blu-ray drive.
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However you can make multiple back ups on multiple BR discs and having multiple back ups is only ever a good thing, and what happens if that 1 TB hard drive fails you? you're out a lot more than if you lost/damaged a BR disc
 
Nothing to say about this topic... I just thought this Ars Technia picture of the image of Steve Jobs looked sooooooo cute.

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25p7sc1&s=4

:D :apple:
 
digitalbiker said:
Sorry you are stuck in 2006. Those of us in 2008 are enjoying literally thousands of BD titles. Check out www.blu-ray.com sometime.

Now excuse me while I watch Ironman and The Godfather I, II, & II in full 1080p with Dolby Digital 6.1.
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I have a BR player and a 1080i monitor.

(Godfather? I'll have to get those).

But anyway, I get so many HD movies on cable the BR thing has sort of been put on the back burner.

The cable companies seem like they are really starting to churn out the HD conversions so I imagine it's a small step to the BR medium.
There's little doubt that it will only get better.

BTW, It's fun to see the quality of the conversions, many of which seem to be done correctly.
 
AidenShaw said:
Yes, it's proven that hard drives will fail due to mechanical issues. A BD disk on the shelf, probably won't self-destruct ;) .
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Noone expected burned CD's and DVD's to self-detruct on the shelf, but they do! Sometimes they are defective less than 6 months after being produced.

Harddrives have an MTBF (mean time between failure) of several 100.000 hours. Having a harddrive for backup purposes only, you will probably come to an active working time of a couple of 100 hours at best. If you like, you could have the HD run a burn-in-cycle before using it as backup medium, as most of them fail either within the first hours or towards the end of their lifecycle (Gaussian distribution).

And even then - IF mechanics should fail, the data is still there on the platters (except for the tiny fraction that might have been affected by an - nowadays unlikely - headcrash) and you can have it recovered.

When a burned medium fails, you are probably out of luck, as the damage occurs silently and over time spreads all over the medium without you noticing it until it's too late.

If a harddrive should fail, it'd only happen while it is running, so you'd notice it immediately and could take corrective action.
 
My 2 cents and more of my lofty ideas which won't happen this tuesday.

Why Apple's Cinema TV display will be different? And why now is a better time?

http://www.last100.com/2008/02/07/through-patent-filing-apple-hints-at-rich-future-of-appletv/


In the patent above, Apple has already envisioned iChat to be part of the experience. It also has various patents on DVR for TV programmes. Possible Apple proposition: You recorded Season 3: Episode 4 of Heroes of cable. But hey, you missed the rest of the first 3 Episodes..no worries, iTunes store can help you. Just buy the previous episodes on iTunes store via this new TV.

Now, one would say, why can't Apple just incorporate the DVR feature into just the Apple TV box? Why compete with the big boys on HDTV sets? I seriously do not think Apple is building a HDTV just to add DVR capability in it.

Here is what some of the features this Apple Entertainment TV Display (let's call it that) will have.

1) iSight build in
2) DVR recording (I take back from my previous post that it won't happen after seeing the patents) with inbuilt TV receiver
3) Mic/headset via Wireless or BT.
4) Book Reader
5) Games
6) Remote device that acts as a voice communication device as well.
7) Voice call/answering

Hardware
1) H264 built in decoder/encoder
2) new sleek remote with LCD screen
3) Docking station for ipod/iTouch

What this new Apple Entertainment TV Display possibly can do

1) simultaneously ichat/phone chat/video chat over the net while watching any programme

2) Connect via USB your digital camera and upload your pics onto the set and subsequently to Flickr

3) Upload via USB your videos to the set and later to Youtube.

4) Record video messages

5) A new e-book section. To browse your ebooks from iTunes store

6) It is so simple to use...my grandma will know how. (Remove complicated remotes of normal TV set)

7) automatically downsize your recorded programmes back to your iPod.

8) capture any video calls and sync back to your iPhone.


It is an almost complete entertainment TV.

The TV is all about content - it's not about the best speaker or LCD screen. It is not where Apple would compete. The idea where the computer pushes the content only to the TV is dead (like DVD). It is the entertainment TV that pushes back the content (upload video, pictures, etc within the set) to all the available computers (macs, pcs) in the house as well.

Your family comes back from a nice outing complete with new Video footages and digital photos. Instead of uploading into your mac and going through all the fuss of "Editing" and storing. All one needs for the super newbie is to plug your devices into the Apple Entertainment TV Display and immediately you can view. The reason is to make this thing as simple and easy as possible. Where someone with no computer experience is able to do easily. And to center the experience around the living room. Current TV allows you to play your video cam or photos on the tv...but recording? not possible.

Now if you really want to edit your pics, you still have your normal computers to do so as they will be streamed to your computers for editing if you so choose to. Remember the Apple Entertainment TV Display is supposed to be simple to use.

Now I called my parent who has a similar Apple Entertainment TV Display via the iChat button on screen. I share the new video and photos streaming from my computer to theirs or I upload to youtube or flickr and gives them a direct link - all the while chatting over iSight and the communication remote. Or Share this via iChat with a friend on his macbook. Your daughter picks up the files from her macbook and send to her friends.

The new Apple Entertainment TV Display picks up and records voice/video calls too. You will have a new telephone number. It is XXXX@ichat.com. You decided to call your mom, pap, galfriend...but they couldn't pick up the call. A video message is recorded. You will be notified when you are back home via your new remote or on screen display. Well if you don't like the new email number? you can dial via the normal telephone line which is built in too. Sync everyone's address book into the machine with privacy settings.

So what happens if a family is watching some programme on Apple Entertainment TV Display and your galfriend call? Simple. Pick up the call via your mac. or buy another voice remote set or use your iPhone/iPod touch with earpiece which will predetermine the user and all the calls will route to this particular set only. Without disturbing the show currently playing. Of course if you are watching a programme, the call can be just informed via your LCD screen on the remote. And not be shown on Apple Entertainment TV Display screen. It's your call. You set the preference and privacy settings.

Why a Apple TV with such soup up ability won't work standalone without the display. It needs to communicate back to the Apple TV the video processing of iSight and streaming real TV channels to the screen for recording. The HDMI won't cut it. By removing the HDMI, RGB outputs of the current Apple TV and incorporating the rest of the machine into the LCD TV, it will be more economical and design wise more aesthetically pleasing. Also we need to implement a dock into the machine and possible USB ports.

An all-in-box will solve much cable issues and cut down costs by using more standard size items than to source for miniature components and put into a Apple TV box. And the ability to incorporate some sort of gaming device/feature into this new Apple Entertainment TV Display much like Nintendo WII will be something interesting to see if it happens - a la proximity detector and 2D/3D game remote controller. What about controlling your TV via iSight and proximity detector? It will save lots of headaches with menus that needs lots of steps..and yes..no touchscreen because you do not sit that close to the media center. Maybe that's why you need a LCD screen...to build in proximity sensors. Somehow u can move objects on screen a distance away from the screen while holding the Apple remote? Apple already has some patents similar to Nintendo WII. Which allows you to zoom in and move things on screen.

There are a lot of endless possibilities for them to incorporate it into a nice package. Let's hope they do have something like that soon.
 
I was thinking, if apple were to make this TV thing, it would be so cool if it used the iMac G4's design, made it aluminum and stuck on a 28" monitor?

Anyone want to do a mock up?:p
 
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