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MacBook with Blu-Ray, Networked HDTV from Apple?

JtheLemur said:
Apple could build HDTVs, no problem.
- Codec support. They need to go nuts. Every codec you can think of, should be supported by the thing. As it stands, I can't find any hardware media player that will play every codec I come across. But Techspansion managed to put a massive number of codecs into their VisualHub product, for conversion purposes -


Actually VLC seems to be able to play about every video format i throw at it. I realize this isnt on the apple tv (yet); but XMC and Boxee let you play several additional video formats on the apple tv, and iSquint will convert most formats into itunes compatible files. I dont think their will ever be a mainstream product out there that will will play all known video formats. Every company has thier favorites and they seem to stick with those.
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Dont they normally seed Leopard builds to developers? No chance in seeing any Blu ray support yet. I believe theyll commence seeding the new build on the day of the announcement.

Apple joining in the Pana, Sony and Samsung fray (not to forget wonderful Pioneer plasmas)? Hahaha yeah right.
 
mudenza said:
Dont they normally seed Leopard builds to developers? No chance in seeing any Blu ray support yet. I believe theyll commence seeding the new build on the day of the announcement.

Apple joining in the Pana, Sony and Samsung fray (not to forget wonderful Pioneer plasmas)? Hahaha yeah right.
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Any chance they could've done an internal Beta release with a huge NDA?
 
Adjei said:
Blu-ray, the most overrated technology ever.
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Rubbish. It's not even in the top-20 most overrated technologies ever.
wizard said:
Really guys I see no reason for BluRay in Apples consumer products, it is a format that is already dying off there. On the professional Macs that is a different story as there is demand there.
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I don't understand. How can it be dying off in consumer Mac's if it's never been in consumer Mac's before? :confused: People have been buying Sony PS3's in record numbers because of Blu-ray, and Apple understand this. Apple has been a core supporter of Blu-ray since 2005, and Blu-ray, along with HD downloads will be the standard soon. I don't know if and when Blu-ray will appear in a Mac, but with Christmas approaching, it does make sense that a Blu-ray drive in a MacBook is possible.
quasarlibero said:
I Agree. Blue Ray internal drive would be destructive for the battery life of the MacBook.
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That's not right. If it was Blu-ray burner it would be, but not if it was only for playback or reading.
 
Apple TV

Apple TV packaged inside or outside a big screen is cool and everything, but it seems like little more than an over-priced curiosity to me. There's nothing revolutionary about it, no functionality that really goes beyond hooking up my computer to my TV via S-Video.

Check out AT&T U-Verse (currently using a Microsoft engine): http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/U-verse_Features.pdf. If Apple could integrate similar functionality to U-Verse with the Apple TV, they'd truly corner the home entertainment market. I'd love it if Apple could jump to the lead on this one. They're solutions are generally much more elegant, fun and creative than other innovators. AT&T and Apple already have a partnership with the iPhone; maybe they could work out a similar TV/internet deal together.
 
BluRay has yet to unfold its true potential for me, as the standard DVD usually does it for me, I would'nt mind waiting for it a bit longer, but as I understand, the US are far keener on it than we are here in Germany.
 
yoak said:
why would you want to lose screen estate just to avoid a little bit of letter box when watching movies?
What do you mostly use your laptop for?
I just don't get it
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It's not necessarily a downgrade.

1280*800 -> 1366*768 (2.5% more pixels)
1440*900 -> 1600*900 (wider)
 
I am excited at the possibility of seeing what Apple can do with the modern TV though, so few companies innovate as well as Apple does. After decades of making cell phones, Apple came out of nowhere and redefined the market, making the TV apart of the home computer network is almost an obvious step though, eventually your entire house will be networked.
 
Kilamite said:
Pioneer have quit the plasma business.
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Wrong. They have stopped producing their own plasmas, and instead have opted to buy plasma display panels from Matsushita whilst retaining their processing unit in the panels themselves. They still have the best plasmas, or even so HDTV's, on the market today, period.
 
Xtremehkr said:
I am excited at the possibility of seeing what Apple can do with the modern TV though, so few companies innovate as well as Apple does. After decades of making cell phones, Apple came out of nowhere and redefined the market, making the TV apart of the home computer network is almost an obvious step though, eventually your entire house will be networked.
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I don't think it is an "obvious" step, a possible step maybe. Am I the only person who is getting concerned that Apple is spreading its special sauce too thin?
 
For the haters of the Blu-Ray

First of all, it's not overrated : it is better than the DVD. So yes, you can see the difference. Maybe not on 13 inch, but certaineley on 27 and up. So when you would watch Blu-Ray on your laptop, you'd plug it to the TV.
Then, you woud charge it while watching, so it wouldn't affect the battery life.

What I'm trying to say is that HD is a plus. You should be happy if it was integrated in the notebooks.

So please, stop whining about it:D
 
wizard said:
Really guys I see no reason for BluRay in Apples consumer products, it is a format that is already dying off there. On the professional Macs that is a different story as there is demand there.
Dave
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Do you have sources for your claim that blu-ray is dying off or is this just your perception? (Honestly interested in this info, not trying to be mean)
 
Chupa Chupa said:
People said the same thing about Apple prior to them going into the phone market. I wouldn't doubt Apple doing something based on what other manufacturers do now. Apple has a way of redefining the market when they come out with new products.
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iPhone is completely different. There is a bigger picture around that to do with the OS X moblle platform and the natural progression of the iPod toward being a pocket computer. They were never going into the business of making cheap phones.

What new market redefinition do you see regarding televisions?
 
1) If there are BluRay drives it will only be as an expensive option, and I don't even know if that will happen until after the Mac Pro gets them and the laptops see their next refresh.

2) We have all been talking about Apple putting the Apple TV in a TV for years. How is that some fresh new rumor lol??? :rolleyes: I don't know if they would really do that. It might explain the rumor of the Apple TV disappearing, but if they do they better have new functionality like the DVR and widgets patents they have because that would be some fierce competition and if they try to sell it the way the Apple TV is now then there won't be too many of them sold haha. Don't get me wrong, I love my Apple TV, but they would have to crank it up a notch for a full on TV with DVR, widgets, iPhone/Touch remote, built in iSight and iChat etc. THAT would be awesome and would shake up the TV market! :D
 
MacRumors said:


More rumors are trickling out in the days before Apple's notebook media event scheduled on October 14th, 2008.

EdibleApple reports that Kevin Rose revealed a new rumor at a live recording of the Diggnation podcast (not yet available). According to the report Rose said that the new MacBooks will support Blu-Ray drives.

Meanwhile, Jason Calacanis founder of Weblogs, Inc, claims that Apple is working on a networked television. Weblogs, Inc was the original parent company for Engadget and was sold to AOL for an estimated $25 million in 2005.

Rose was recently quite accurate in his iPod and iTunes predictions for Apple's September event. We've never heard a previous rumor from Calacanis, so it's unknown how accurate his sources tend to be.


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Blue Ray would be cool but all in all I don't see anything earth shattering.

Many TV's use a ethernet port, some with thumb drives and there is a spec out there that many tv's are using that allow the user to stream movies from their computer so if this is another APPLE TV or proprietary device then it will fail, just like the Apple TV did.

In addition, if all the new products are integrated graphics, I think Apple will be shooting themself in the foot. Time to wake up Apple and get over the notion that so what if less than 1% of your user base uses it for MOTION. The sales would be offset 100 fold by users that would buy the product for gaming, a much larger audience than the pro user or FCP/Motion crowd.
 
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