Macbook without MacOsX possible ?

[RojoLeo]

Try this one. They've had 12" laptops for years. Before that they had the 710m and 700m, which I owned. The 700m was probably one of the most -- if not the most -- popular laptop on my college campus.

There we go, I was overlooking that, not the easiest to find on Dell's website.

So yeah, OP, there are at least two other major manufacturer notebooks for the price range you need, with the screen size and processor family you requested: this Dell, and the Sony I recommended above.

 

[Fearless Leader]

I know this is possible I accidentally did it, twice. Once with xp and once with suse 10.2. Very possible. in fact you never have to boot into osx. Just pop in the cd hold C wipe *everything* off the disk and I believe you can get drivers after the fact. (If not you'd have to boot into osx)

 

[danny_w]

Try this one. They've had 12" laptops for years. Before that they had the 710m and 700m, which I owned. The 700m was probably one of the most -- if not the most -- popular laptop on my college campus.

Or try the Latitude D420, which would be my pick. Much smaller and lighter. Not as powerful of course, but everything is a trade off.

 

[ITASOR]

Oh, so I misread that. It's still a stupid idea and I'll stay in this forum, thanks. I still frankly don't believe it's so easy and simple as you claim.

Even after installing Boot Camp under normal circumstances, doesn't it boot Windows only if you hold down a certain key combo? How do you get around the boot loader stuff? How will the boot loader even work if there is no OS X at all, not even core components?

And I can't emphasize enough what a lousy idea this is. What a waste of money.

Also, you're pretty new here. You should discontinue calling people idiots, ridiculing everybody, and telling people to leave forums.

You're allowed to admit you're wrong, you know. It's not against the law and makes you look a whole lot smarter than continuing to argue the same wrong point over and over again.

 

[RojoLeo]

Or try the Latitude D420, which would be my pick. Much smaller and lighter. Not as powerful of course, but everything is a trade off.

This doesn't really fit what the OP was looking for as this only comes with a CD, not a C2D and is more expensive than the MB.

 

[Nicolasdec]

That's like buying a 70,000 car and asking the dealer to please remove the engine in favor of a 15,000 car.

HEHEHEHEH, That is so true......

 

[wildwonderful]

haha, thats funny.

 

[TBi]

I don't get why everyone is so dead set against the OP giving his hard earned cash to apple. Even if he doesn't use OSX he is still giving apple money. Whats the problem?

 

[whateverandever]

That's like buying a 70,000 car and asking the dealer to please remove the engine in favor of a 15,000 car.

HEHEHEHEH, That is so true......

Only it's not at all. Thanks for encouraging the trolls.

A better comparison would be buying a 70,000 car and swapping the interior. The engine would be comparable to swapping a CPU.

Learn to use English appropriately. Thanks.

 

[whateverandever]

Ok... so basically I'm going to go straight through the procedures to do this... because I'm tired of hearing people say this and that.

1. Boot up Mac OS as it is preinstalled. Run all the firmware updates available (if there are any) and download / install Boot Camp. Use Boot Camp to create a Windows partition and burn a driver CD.

2. Reboot and install Windows. Install Boot Camp drivers or wait till later.

3. Reboot into Mac OS X and set your Windows partition as the default boot option.

4. Reboot and go into your Linux install. Delete the Mac OS X partition (not the EFI partition) and install Linux in the free space.

5. Make sure you install LILO or GRUB.

6. Your computer should now boot from the Apple screen to LILO/GRUB which should let you choose between Windows and Linux.

There you have it. Six steps. A bit time consuming, of course, but fairly simple.

 

[mgsolidsnak3]

Thanks “Thoughtful whateverandever” for the guide, and all those that know what they are talking about.

As for those that still say buy a Dell or something, why don’t you just check the prices first, the only one that fits my description from Dell UK is M1210, which is 300uk more expensive than the macbook.

I want to thank those open minded who helped me and shown that this is possible and not just said "macosx is the best", which may be, but it’s not for me (I used it last year for half semester on a mac pro g5 dual 2ghz 2gb, for programming & photoshop)

I am still in dilemma about it, because the longer I hang out in the forum, the more problematic macbook appears to be, it seems that a lot of people are having problems with macbook. As I have seen apple may be friendly in fixing/exchanging the macbook, but why have problems in the first place. I will think about it, because the really competitor that I have found to a macbook is the sony SZ -13”- (600uk more expensive) & the Dell m1210 -12”- (300uk more).

Anyway Thanks for the help.

 

[RojoLeo]

As for those that still say buy a Dell or something, why don’t you just check the prices first, the only one that fits my description from Dell UK is M1210, which is 300uk more expensive than the macbook.

You need to watch the attitude. YOU asked for help finding another manufacturer in addition to ways that this was possible. WE were still trying to HELP you, not discourage you.

BTW, on the SONY UK store, check out the Factory Outlet, the VGN-C1S/P is £722.55 VAT excl.; 13.3", C2D.

 

[GFLPraxis]

Bootcamp is a partitioning program which is its main function. its not just a set of drivers...they're on the side.

It's a partitioning program, a boot loader, and a set of drivers.

 

[whateverandever]

It's a partitioning program, a boot loader, and a set of drivers.

No, it's not.

It's not even a partitioning program. It's more of a wrapper for Disk Utility.

There is no boot loader in Boot Camp.

The bulk of the download is the CD image. Check the package contents after you have it installed. The CD image is 128MB. The Boot Camp application itself is about 156KB.


... Boot Camp = Drivers

 

[taylorwilsdon]

Sorry for my attitude in this thread. I'm glad it was sorted out once and for all while I was gone. Rudeness is never needed, no matter the situation.

ps:

 

[deadpixels]

Learn to use English appropriately. Thanks.

some people here does not have english as their mother tongue, but they should still be allowed to express their opinion, no?

Learn to be tolerant, thanks.

 

[mgsolidsnak3]

You need to watch the attitude. YOU asked for help finding another manufacturer in addition to ways that this was possible. WE were still trying to HELP you, not discourage you.

BTW, on the SONY UK store, check out the Factory Outlet, the VGN-C1S/P is £722.55 VAT excl.; 13.3", C2D.

I don’t want to be rude, but some people just seem to post random useless things, like you. You have just posted me an 850uk(with vat), Used, Pink, 1.66ghz laptop. That’s just great.

Anyway thanks for the advice, as I have said I don’t want to be rude but some people like to just post anything for the sake of posting.

Thanks

 

[TBi]

I don’t want to be rude, but some people just seem to post random useless things, like you. You have just posted me an 850uk(with vat), Used, Pink, 1.66ghz laptop. That’s just great.

Anyway thanks for the advice, as I have said I don’t want to be rude but some people like to just post anything for the sake of posting.

Thanks

I think pink would suit you

You'd probably get less grief walking around with a pink laptop than you have here asking if you can just install windows on a Mac

 

[RojoLeo]

I think pink would suit you

You'd probably get less grief walking around with a pink laptop than you have here asking if you can just install windows on a Mac

Bingo. Glad someone caught the humor. If you're a jerk, expect an appropriate response.

Look, myself, and others, took the time to go research and find model numbers for you for products that looked like they fit the bill. You didn't specify color, or w/ or w/out Vat. So don't complain about products suggested that don't fit a description you didn't give.

And if I had just wanted to post for the sake of posting, I would have said "Go buy a Dell" or been one of the countless here to say that you were idiot for trying this, but alas I did not. I took the time to try to find you an alternative to help a fellow member of this board.

Thanks for pissing all over that. Good luck with your project.

 

[nplima]

I am still in dilemma about it, because the longer I hang out in the forum, the more problematic macbook appears to be, it seems that a lot of people are having problems with macbook.

Now you could add a bit of detail to your original post, when you said you wanted big name brands, not el-cheapo laptops. would you trust Fujitsu-Siemens, Asus, Acer? I don't know what brands you're looking into, but over here most manufacturers want to have plenty of choice under the magical EUR1000 mark (that's <700GBP).
Last time I checked, Acer was the only brand left that sold 14" wide-screen laptops without a premium for "ultra portability"...

 

[whateverandever]

some people here does not have english as their mother tongue, but they should still be allowed to express their opinion, no?

Learn to be tolerant, thanks.

People that aren't native English speakers should not attempt to use metaphors to reinforce an already invalid point just for the sake of ridiculing a poster looking for help.

Being an Apple zealot qualifies you as being a non-native English speaker (as their native tongue is Apple PR Speak through the Jobs Reality Distortion Field).

 

[deadpixels]

People that aren't native English speakers should not attempt to use metaphors to reinforce an already invalid point just for the sake of ridiculing a poster looking for help.

Being an Apple zealot qualifies you as being a non-native English speaker (as their native tongue is Apple PR Speak through the Jobs Reality Distortion Field).

whatever

 

[Faye]

I'm curious as to why someone would want to replace OS X with Linux. You can compile/run the same software you can on Linux on OS X (the tools to do that come on the install DVD). OS X is supported, and it has a better integrated GUI. I suppose you hit the Linux<>FreeBSD religious war and then all hell breaks loose.

For me OS X provides everything I need from a desktop Unix.


Faye

 

[m1ss1ontomars]

Well, to provide you with an answer:

NO

Windows is not sold or supported by Apple, and it will not run on it's own anyway.

You should look at some PCs, or try using Mac OS X.

Of course Windows will run on ITS (no apostrophe, please) own.

 

[nsf557]

It Is Possible

I havn't read through all the postings; however, just want to comment on the original question. It is possible to remove OS X and simply install windows and then install OS X at a later time if necessary (given partitions were correctly done initially). I've done it several times and it's really simple.

It is amusing how some of the first responders claimed that it wasn't possible. How do they know if they havn't done it. Everything is possible if enough effort is put into it.