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Macintosh Moving to Intel Processors [Updated]
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That is a load of crap!!iMeowbot said:
The best AGP card they could put in the G5 is a Radeon 9600???
I have an AGP Radeon x700Pro that whoops the pants off the video card in my PC.
To be another voice of reason for the people going crazy, there is so much that this will benefit.
- Dual booting a machine with Windows and MacOS
- MacOS only able to be installed on Macintel machines.
- Programmers can create one binary to install on both OS platforms.
- MORE SOFTWARE!!!!
This opens the door for a tone of things to happen software wise for MacOS. This only makes me more excited about the day that I purchase my next Mac, which WILL be an Intel based machine. I drool over the thought of having an Pentium M based Powerbook or iBook and a dual core PowerMac to play the latest game release on.
- Dual booting a machine with Windows and MacOS
- MacOS only able to be installed on Macintel machines.
- Programmers can create one binary to install on both OS platforms.
- MORE SOFTWARE!!!!
This opens the door for a tone of things to happen software wise for MacOS. This only makes me more excited about the day that I purchase my next Mac, which WILL be an Intel based machine. I drool over the thought of having an Pentium M based Powerbook or iBook and a dual core PowerMac to play the latest game release on.
Is this scenario possible?
No flames if I have got this wrong, many a low end non tech head may well be thinking similar.
Upside: Speedy Powerbook launches.
Downside: Your current mac PPC version of Adobe CS2 suite won't run on it you need Mac X86 version.
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No flames if I have got this wrong, many a low end non tech head may well be thinking similar.
Upside: Speedy Powerbook launches.
Downside: Your current mac PPC version of Adobe CS2 suite won't run on it you need Mac X86 version.
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The Marklar has been a rumor for year, but so has little green men from Mars.Mr Maui said:
Hmmmmm, I should perhaps get an insurance for alien abduction?
I'm down with faster cpu's all the way(no matter if it's intel/AMD/IBM or a cpu from the moon) . and i know that apple will deliver . BUT. will it still support it's current G5's for years to come ? or will steve stand next year in WWDC and say.( G5's are history .. the transition is over... we made it !!!)
I would keep it, since it will IMHO be the last true Mac. It will hopefully serve you good for many years to come.Apokeylips said:I can't believe my luck. I bought a Dual 2.3 G5 PowerMac on Thursday. What the hell am I supposed to do now? Send it back and wait another year? Anyone in a similar situation?
Microsoft is DEAD!
It's all over Redmond. OS X is coming and there is nothing you can do about it. My prediction is many many more companies are going to port their applications to OS X and reap the benefits of a swelling user base. Apple's market share will be double digits by 2007 and you will be able to dual boot your mac with Windows. A lot of potential switchers will choose Apple hardware for this reason and soon discover there is really no reason to dual boot. Microsoft's market share will fall exponentially and they will break up the company to save it.
David's stone was just let loose.
It's all over Redmond. OS X is coming and there is nothing you can do about it. My prediction is many many more companies are going to port their applications to OS X and reap the benefits of a swelling user base. Apple's market share will be double digits by 2007 and you will be able to dual boot your mac with Windows. A lot of potential switchers will choose Apple hardware for this reason and soon discover there is really no reason to dual boot. Microsoft's market share will fall exponentially and they will break up the company to save it.
David's stone was just let loose.
Macs on Intel doesn't mean you can build your own machine. It also doesn't mean you can run Windows on a Mac either. I'm sure some resourceful people may figure out a way eventually to do this.
What it means to me is that I can keep running Mac OS X for the foreseeable future and not have to run Windows! Maybe Win marketshare may even erode! Whoohooo!
What it means to me is that I can keep running Mac OS X for the foreseeable future and not have to run Windows! Maybe Win marketshare may even erode! Whoohooo!
bosrs1 said:
Try this for size then, will CS3 - if released for X86 only run on the PPC G5?
I think not - correct?
Macintel is the new OSX to the PPC Mac's OS9.
Here we go again (and watch that make a few dive onto a cheaper PC - ie forget the OS I want the cheaper rig for the same apps etc).
I'm not concerned about the quality/experience of the intel switch - I've been through the 68K->PPC switch and the OS9->OS X switch, and while neither were 'trouble-free', they also weren't that big a deal - much less trouble than switching from Win 3.1->Win95, or Win95->Win98, or from Win2000->WinXP, all of which I also did.
My concern is this:
1) I'd been planning on buying one or two new PowerMacs, one for home, and one for the office. I've now frozen my buying plans until I learn more about the product road map, and what kinds of products and price points I can expect. The Quicksilver G4/800 and the MDD dual G4/867 will just have to soldier along until I clearly understand the product/price/performance roadmap, and can make a reasonable decision about whether to buy current technology, which works fine, or wait 12+ months, and get the new architecture. Result: ~$5000 in revenue to Apple on hold.
2) Two people in my office had been looking at getting Powerbook/iBooks in the next couple months. I felt just fine about recommending that they do so, as I'm confident that a G5 Powerbook wasn't coming down the road anytime soon. With such a major change in mobile architecture, and the new Pentium-M's looking outstanding, my advice would have to be that if they don't need them urgently, they should wait. Result: ~$5000 in revenue to Apple on hold
3) Apple has largely been able to justify their hardware pricing based on their alternate architecture, and claiming that you couldn't compare Apples to Dells on a 1:1 basis for price. Given a move to essentially similar hardware, and a known retail price for OS X, charging more for identical hardware will become increasingly difficult, IMHO. While Apple will argue that in some way their 3.2Ghz Pentium-D box with 1GB of Ram, 160GB HD, etc. is different or more valuable than the one from Dell (or home-build, or whatever), that will be a very hard sell.
The distinctive architecture gave Apple some room on pricing that is going to be lost. Everyone knows what a Pentium box + an OS costs - just go to Dell and check it out. If Apple's price for the identical Pentium box + Mac OS + whatever Open Firmware chip they throw in to tie the hardware and software together is substantially higher, that's a major problem.
So, in short, I'm a big fan of the speed and capability increases that the Intel move will provide - especially on the mobile side, the PPC line is at a standstill. As a buyer, both personally and for my small business, I need a clear map of what I can expect over the next two years, otherwise I'm going to hunker down, and buy nothing at all untill that map becomes clear. I'm also going to have a very hard time paying the kinds of prices (mostly on the desktop side) that Apple has traditionally gotten for their high-end machines, if Wintel hardware is cheaper, and I know that I could run OS X there instantly if Apple would unlock it.
My concern is this:
1) I'd been planning on buying one or two new PowerMacs, one for home, and one for the office. I've now frozen my buying plans until I learn more about the product road map, and what kinds of products and price points I can expect. The Quicksilver G4/800 and the MDD dual G4/867 will just have to soldier along until I clearly understand the product/price/performance roadmap, and can make a reasonable decision about whether to buy current technology, which works fine, or wait 12+ months, and get the new architecture. Result: ~$5000 in revenue to Apple on hold.
2) Two people in my office had been looking at getting Powerbook/iBooks in the next couple months. I felt just fine about recommending that they do so, as I'm confident that a G5 Powerbook wasn't coming down the road anytime soon. With such a major change in mobile architecture, and the new Pentium-M's looking outstanding, my advice would have to be that if they don't need them urgently, they should wait. Result: ~$5000 in revenue to Apple on hold
3) Apple has largely been able to justify their hardware pricing based on their alternate architecture, and claiming that you couldn't compare Apples to Dells on a 1:1 basis for price. Given a move to essentially similar hardware, and a known retail price for OS X, charging more for identical hardware will become increasingly difficult, IMHO. While Apple will argue that in some way their 3.2Ghz Pentium-D box with 1GB of Ram, 160GB HD, etc. is different or more valuable than the one from Dell (or home-build, or whatever), that will be a very hard sell.
The distinctive architecture gave Apple some room on pricing that is going to be lost. Everyone knows what a Pentium box + an OS costs - just go to Dell and check it out. If Apple's price for the identical Pentium box + Mac OS + whatever Open Firmware chip they throw in to tie the hardware and software together is substantially higher, that's a major problem.
So, in short, I'm a big fan of the speed and capability increases that the Intel move will provide - especially on the mobile side, the PPC line is at a standstill. As a buyer, both personally and for my small business, I need a clear map of what I can expect over the next two years, otherwise I'm going to hunker down, and buy nothing at all untill that map becomes clear. I'm also going to have a very hard time paying the kinds of prices (mostly on the desktop side) that Apple has traditionally gotten for their high-end machines, if Wintel hardware is cheaper, and I know that I could run OS X there instantly if Apple would unlock it.
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