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Those were the days. Literally every spare moment was spent in front of my Apple II or Macintosh (or my Commodore PET, which was my first). It was the next frontier and everything was new and fun. Wonderful times.

That "1984" commercial was striking and powerful back then. In my opinion, the best Super Bowl commercial ever.
 
Would be nice to see Apple update the iMac and Mac Pro (I know Apple confirmed the Mac Pro is coming in 2019). The Mac is a great computer Apple just need to work on regular updates.
 
Apple have had a few change the world moments, this was certainly one of them, the iPhone and iPad were probably the others. The Mac line is largely neglected these days, probably through channelling resources at other lines of products. I wonder what their next change the world moment will be. Or, IF they will ever have another one.

Don't forget the original ImageWriter and then the LaserWriter. The LaserWriter literally spawned the Desktop Publishing market. It was an insane time: a printer that cost more than the computer to which it was connected. The publishing company I worked for at the time bought a LaserWriter immediately. We also got a couple ImageWriters, too.

AppleTalk was also a big game changer when it was released. it just worked.
 
What game-changers on the order of iPod/iPhone do you have mind? Feel free to come with a couple of your own...

And...what iPhone/iPod-level game changers have Dell, Acer, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft, Sony, Samsung, LG (and on and on), come up with in the last 9 years?

Maybe, touchscreens? How about tablets with mice and keyboards that are real computers? Just to name two...
 
How abaout at least a special edition Mac to celebrate this kind of milestone? Something like a product red Mac :D (a SEXY Red iMac) at least it would show they care a bit....

Should start selling tshirt with "Tim Cook got CEO position and all I got is a louzy Mac lineup!"
 
Well, 'predominantly text' wasn't exactly the Mac's party trick - back in those days my day job was sitting behind a VT220 terminal and that did scrolling text very nicely. In the 80s, an 80x24 character-generator-based screen was the norm for purely text-based work and a fully bitmapped screen/screen mode was a luxury that hammered the CPU and drank RAM.

The Amiga, of course, technically blew everything out of the water - and had hardware-accelerated graphics that could eat things like displaying/scrolling text on a colour bitmap screen for breakfast. It just had the bad luck to come at a time when businesses wouldn't look twice at anything that didn't run IBM PC software and Apple had secured the remaining niche in DTP, leaving the Amiga (undeservedly) as the most over-engineered games console in history.



...and they've often been near failure as a result of pricing themselves out of the market, which has usually been averted by bringing out an 'affordable' option (The LC/Classic/IIsi in 1990, the iMac in 1998, and - to a certain extent - the original Mac itself c.f. the Lisa).

Apple's problem is that they come out with an innovation (Apple II, Mac, iPhone...) that justifies a premium price because, at launch, there's nothing else like it - then, years later, they're still trying to flog the incrementally-improved version of the same product at the same, or higher, premium, except now they're up against credible competition at half the price. Its been black-and-white in the last couple of quarters' results that they're extracting more money from a static, if not shrinking pool of loyal/locked-in customers. That's not sustainable.

Yes, they've always been expensive, but they're getting more expensive and they're getting meaner (anybody remember when the iPad dock came with an extra PSU in the box? When your Mac came with a DVI-to-VGA dongle? When your MacBook power supply came with an extension lead? - and the charge cable, although that was because it was integral).

...and yes, they dropped ports when they were obsolete, when there were better alternatives or when they created a new product category. Not to save a buck or to trim 1mm off the case thickness and enable bending. Not, "whups, we're going to all-USB-C, don't worry, there will probably be products that don't need dongles along in a year or three..."

Trust me I agree that a lot of that stuff is unnecessary, but I mean... Companies do stuff like that all the time. I know Apple preaches that they’re holier than thou, but they’re a corporation in the business of profit at the end of the day.

The original iPhone came with a dock and cloth. The 3G and beyond? Nope.

I agree that they don’t have to make things thinner for the sake of thinness while sacrificing necessary ports, but in my experience the computers work well and are made well.

There’s always going to be issues and things that bother Apple consumers, but OVERALL I’d say Apple is doing a great job.
 
And to say the current products are “great”, is just as dumb.

Are there an overwhelming amount of issues with the current lineup? Batteries exploding? A surge of products being lemons?

Are 1 in every 2 iPad Pros bent? Are there countless bugs from the get go that every user faces?

The products work well. They may be lacking some ports that we know and love and the prices may be a little higher, but there’s no widespread issues. And if there are keyboard or battery issues, there are quality programs.

Now there are many things the competition does better than Apple, but I’d say Apple still has the complete package.
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Nope. It's not (just) about price. There was a time you could justify the "Apple Tax". Products were pricy but great. Before they started pushing trashy anaemic laptops with awful keyboards and gimmicky emojibars that can't connect to anything out of the box, outdated desktop Macs with default spinning drives in 2019, pre-bent iPads, €1200 phones with no fast chargers and plugs/earpieces that aren't compatible with Macs etc. Apple products had quality, elegance and interoperability other vendors could only dream of.

Not THAT long ago it wasn’t a problem to pay 399 for iPods, 499 for iPhones, 1599 for iMacs and so on. The product lines were clear and each upgrade provided immediate utility and value. Right now they are complicated, annoying and overpriced. That's exactly what got Apple nearly killed in ‘90 before Steve came back.

I see what you’re saying. I’d say some of those things are pretty minor though. Would it be nice to have fast chargers in the box? Hell yeah, but it’s not something that says to me “Apple is doomed”. They’re a business at the end of the day. They’ve always charged higher prices (even tho they are deff much higher now).

Not being able to connect to anything out of the box is absolutely annoying. But still, in my experience the new lineup of Macs work well. It’s not like they’re slow/clunky/un-secure. They work well.

Their products still are quality and still are elegant.

What’s annoying to most people is that they have alllllll this money and there are still issues with things and they’re still charging high prices. That’s just how it is.

Ferrari’s will always be expensive. Lambos and Louis Vuitton etc will always be expensive.

You get what you pay for. And again, I totally agree that there are plenty of annoyances that I personally also have with the company.

But the ecosystem is still extremely effective and powerful. The current products don’t really have anything “wrong” with them. They’re just priced hire and lack some ports. They’re still fast, secure, nice to look at etc.
 
It's 2019 Apple that needs a girl in jogging year to toss a hammer through the Infinite Loop cafeteria jumbotron.

Their entire product portfolio at the moment is the result of corporate groupthink and brazen nickel-and-diming.

Sad how they became everything they were standing against.

This, just in case - Sad how they became everything they were standing against.

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Maybe, touchscreens? How about tablets with mice and keyboards that are real computers? Just to name two...

Seriously? Those are hardly iPod/iPhone-level game changers! And not even close to innovation. Tablets with mice/keyboards were considered and rejected. Easy enough to do. And no doubt Apple has a few dozen prototypes going back a decade.

So...What are your ideas for iPod/iPhone-level game-changing products? Should be easy to come with a few, right?
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That’s the whole point,Apple is now just like all the others..

OK...What are your ideas for iPod/iPhone-level game changing products?
 
35 years. Just about enough time for maybe 5 iterations of the Mac Pro (at the current update pace)
The original Macintosh has little in common with the Mac Pro and is much more a predecessor of the iMac.
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Too bad Apple has all but abandoned the current Mac desktops. Disgraceful really. It's like Apple doesn't want to earn significant desktop computing revenue.

And the current Mac Mini is Apple in a nutshell. It's priced as expensive as it could possibly be and represents very poor value for money compared to the competition.
So should they price it for $6000, the equivalent of the original Macintosh?
 
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I was at The Computer Store in downtown Pittsburgh and they pulled a Mac out of the back room on this exact date at lunchtime. Me and my friends were amazed by the graphics since everything we knew at work was based on DOS with a C> command. We were super excited. Our company had a zero interest loan program to buy a personal computer and we each got a Mac. There was a bunch of us - probably around 20 and we had to wait for delivery, but saved a little money since it was a nice bulk deal. It would have been around $50,000 to buy 20 of them. And we each bought some accessories like floppy disks - I think a box of 10 was $50.

Yup, about $5/disk for a whopping 400K storage. It wasn’t until the Mac Plus that it doubled to 800K. I think I paid as much as $10/disk individually for some brands like Sony. The sad part is, the 128K Mac was almost useless without an external disk drive. The 800K disk made a world of difference on a single drive Mac.

Yea, i’ve had a good little mini vmac setup for years, running systems 1 through 5 for various little walks down memory lane.
Still works in Mojave, but since its 32-bit, it’ll bite the dust if/when I’m running a mac that can only run 10.15 or higher

Then you can run it within a 32-bit emulator! I’ll bet at some point Paul Pratt updates it to 64-bit though.
 
My 2018 MBP does not feel special the way that earlier Macs did. There was something about those older Macs (even at the Intel era). The OS and accessories are nice enough these days, but there was always a rebellious sort of spunk to them that has slowly been going away. Hard to capture. But my new Mac feels soulless and about as empty and hollow as its typing experience.

B.B King expresses it well:

I feel exactly the same. Small quirks and details in the old MacBook Pro's like the battery level (let's not even go to MagSafe) and the "breathing" sleep indicators made it feel almost like a companion that was a joy to work with and have around. Right now it's a cold hard lame baffling piece of flimsy aluminium (mine has marks where I rest my wrists and light leaks on the edges of the displays). As for the software.. I don't know. Regardless of my entrenched OSX workflows and design suites, I am hard pressed to see or recommend the added value of MacOS as a platform.
 
What a sad anniversary in 2019. I hope the 40th will be much happier. Apple needs a new blood, somebody who cares.
One day Cook and his buds will ride off into the sunset, their options in the money. Will that actually change anything at Apple, the corporation? Will the new CEO make changes for the better? There are numerous examples where the opposite is true. Steve Jobs was lightning in a bottle, a weird confluence of personality, intuition, intellect, and competence. I doubt we will ever see anyone similar at the helm of Apple.
 
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If that's all you want to do get the free Mini vMac emulator for your phone or tablet. Oh wait, Apple don't allow that but you can run it on your MacBook.
I want the physical, actual hardware experience too. Inserting the floppy to boot up, seeing it boot up, just testing how far we have come in terms of the overall user experience 9 inches of screen to now 27 inches.
 
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When I was a kid I wanted a Apple IIc so bad but we couldn't afford it. That was Circa 1986-88. I didn't end up getting my first Mac until 2008. Had Macs ever since. Had other apple devices before the Mac but it took me 20 years to get my hands on a "Mac". Now I have an Air and a Pro.

Apples has always been amazing because of its values in Quality, Innovation, and Best in Field.
 
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When I was a kid I wanted a Apple IIc so bad but we couldn't afford it. That was Circa 1986-88. I didn't end up getting my first Mac until 2008. Had Macs ever since. Had other apple devices before the Mac but it took me 20 years to get my hands on a "Mac". Now I have an Air and a Pro.

Apples has always been amazing because of its values in Quality, Innovation, and Best in Field.

I wish the Apple II would come back as a Raspberry Pi product for a low cost for hobbist use.
 
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