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macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread

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Sven G said:
Talking about USB sticks, the first time I made one for Sonoma with createinstallmedia, I got this error in the Terminal: /Volumes/USB16GB is not large enough for install media. An additional 148,1 MB is needed. This after formatting it as macOS Extended (Journaled) and with a GUID partition map. So I had to use a bigger USB flash drive. Today, I tried again, but starting with a MS-DOS with Master Boot Record USB stick: which resulted in slightly more free space and was accepted without complaints by createinstallmedia, which erased the disk and proceeded. Strange, this different behaviour, due to the Sonoma beta installer being slightly bigger than the previous ones. Of course, in this way the USB stick remains formatted with MBR, instead of GUID: certainly not the most ideal solution, considering that you cannot install OCLP on MBR. So, in order to use GUID, it looks like a 32 GB USB flash drive is needed, at least in my case (SanDisk Ultra)…
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For USB installers, I use kind of a luxury: a 120GB old Kingston SSD, too small to be useful as a system SSD. Partitioned to a couple of 10 and 20 GB partitions GUID/MacOS Extended (journaled), it holds all macOS installers I still want, from El Capitan to Sonoma. Faster and more reliable than USB sticks, to my experience.
 
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hvds said:
For USB installers, I use kind of a luxory: a 120GB old Kingston SSD, too small to be useful as a system SSD. Partitioned to a couple of 10 and 20 GB partitions GUID/MacOS Extended (journaled), it holds all macOS installers I still want, from El Capitan to Sonoma. Faster and more reliable than USB sticks, to my experience.
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I was the same until the newer OCLP offering macOS installation, which wipes out the entire USB/SSD. The advantage of OCLP generated Installer is that it applies the root-patch during the installation process, avoiding the need of manual installation of the root-patch which may cause complications.
I am interested to learn a way to install OCLP generated Installer to a partition.
 
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BTW, the latest nightly builds from the sonoma-development branch have all the new default Sonoma boot picker disk icons (GoldenGate collection): those who know how to find them, can do it… 😉🙂

And here’s another interesting article (the newest pull request):

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Preliminary support for macOS Sonoma by khronokernel · Pull Request #1077 · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

This PR is primarily for tracking development of patch sets and changes implemented in code base. Please note that these builds are highly unstable and will require frequent re-installs throughout ...
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Last but not least, does anyone know if macOS 14 Sonoma finally adds support for nested virtualisation on M2+ Apple Silicon (for example, for running Docker, WSL2 or WSA inside a Windows 11 ARM VM)…? Not OCLP-related, but as there are many experts here…
 
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Hi all, someone has a method to patch only Wifi ? Because the patching process fails due to my 3802 graphic card that is completely unsupported by Sonoma, with no solution until now (and perhaps never) ?
 
educovas said:
That was just to show up how OCLP dev is going. If people here don't want to see development achievements, I'm not posting anything anymore.
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Of course we want to know.
It was a serious question of describing the technicalities of how you made things work like wifi, etc which others were not able to enable or make it work. The more people try it more people can feedback to the Devs.
 
Since when it’s aceptable to come to a forum, show progress, refuse to articulate, and have everyone apologizing for asking. I’m sorry if this guy never post progress again but allowing tyranny like this is not okay. Much less in a community project
 
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sinbad21 said:
Hi all, someone has a method to patch only Wifi ? Because the patching process fails due to my 3802 graphic card that is completely unsupported by Sonoma, with no solution until now (and perhaps never) ?
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Similar situation here on MB4,1 (with the dreaded x3100 GPU).
Installing Ventura 13.4 on top of Monterey first resulted in full frame buffer (144MB, yeah!).
OCLP showed Wifi and USB as available patches but even so removed the x3100 kexts to "relocated kext" folder where they do not work (not included any more at kernel cache rebuild time). So I´m back to the sluggish 6MB frame buffer...
So I´d also like to chose what to patch or leave untouched. Perhaps this can be done without totally doing it by single manual steps instead with OCLP?
 
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MacNB2 said:
Of course we want to know.
It was a serious question of describing the technicalities of how you made things work like wifi, etc which others were not able to enable or make it work. The more people try it more people can feedback to the Devs.
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And I did explain how I got WiFi working in #201 and non-Metal graphics in #210 (it wasn't a joke, literally the same patch set). If I'm not explaining EXACTLY what I did is because these patches are very complicated to apply and are in testing by developers and 95% of the people wouldn't know how to manually downgrade many binaries and as I said in #102 that if we can't find anything better, it would be in OCLP (like the Sonoma preliminary support PR).

JoinMeinHeaven said:
Since when it’s aceptable to come to a forum, show progress, refuse to articulate, and have everyone apologizing for asking. I’m sorry if this guy never post progress again but allowing tyranny like this is not okay. Much less in a community project
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So I never refused to articulate and never wanted anyone apologizing for asking. Since when showing the development progress of a patcher is tyranny? Since when not wanting to write a huge post describing how I got things working, that people would try to replicate and break their OSes because they can't wait that to be included in the patcher is considered tyranny?

All I wanted was to show our progress with Sonoma with what I thought was a nice community. This is probably my last post in this forum because I don't want to be around toxic people (also the reason I left OCLP's discord server).
 
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@educovas
You can't infer the entire community from one or two persons. Many appreciate you sharing progress and would deeply regret losing insights into the developments. And to @MacNB2 and co. Of course, you can always ask questions about topics that interest you. But it is up to the person you're asking what to tell you. You can't accuse people of not being able to articulate themselves just because you don't like the answer. That is not a way to deal with one another.
 
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@educovas

Please ignore these weird comments from some users here.

I think that you posting your progress is very exciting for almost everyone on here, and these users that complained about this have bizarre expectations.

They probably don’t know that you are one of the developers actively working with a team that in a short while may offer us all here an updated version of OCLP with support for Sonoma. 95% of us are here to cheer you on, and it is exciting to see your early results! The other 5%—The users that are writing these weird comments here just probably do not know that you are one of the OCLP developers. Thank you for all of your awesome work!
 
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educovas said:
And I did explain how I got WiFi working in #201 and non-Metal graphics in #210 (it wasn't a joke, literally the same patch set). If I'm not explaining EXACTLY what I did is because these patches are very complicated to apply and are in testing by developers and 95% of the people wouldn't know how to manually downgrade many binaries and as I said in #102 that if we can't find anything better, it would be in OCLP (like the Sonoma preliminary support PR).
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Thank you for a bit more detail.
In your #201 you said "Had to downgrade almost the whole userspace WiFi stack to match the kext from Ventura" but what would have helped was to add "I'm not explaining EXACTLY what I did is because these patches are very complicated to apply and are in testing by developers and 95% of the people wouldn't know how to manually downgrade many binaries. And if you do not know what you are doing then you can break your system by manually downgrading binaries.".

The comment in #201 on it own without context creates curiosity because people want to know more.

educovas said:
All I wanted was to show our progress with Sonoma with what I thought was a nice community. This is probably my last post in this forum because I don't want to be around toxic people (also the reason I left OCLP's discord server).
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These are very friendly forums and many are here to share their experiences and knowledge to the benefit of others.
When you came along with those comments on #201 & #210, it seemed like you got somethings working but were not willing to share how. We now know why.
I'm sorry if you felt you were being attacked...you were not. That was never the intent ... quite the opposite...I just wanted more.
 
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MacNB2 said:
…….. it seemed like you got somethings working but were not willing to share how. We now know why.
I'm sorry if you felt you were being attacked...you were not. That was never the intent ... quite the opposite...I just wanted more.
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educovas is one of the developers for OCLP. @MacNB2 , you have to wait for the official release to “get more “…. Official releases are when the developers will “share“ their work.

You have to think of some of the people who post on this board as like professors displaying a bit of research that’s incomplete. When the OCLP developers research and development becomes complete, we will all get more, and they will share it with us by way of a new OCLP release.

However, it’s exciting to see the research in progress—that is what @educovas was doing before in his post.
 
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LuckyOldMan said:
As I use your Flavour-X-theme for quite a while I need just the appropriate icon "Apple 14.icns" to supplement if possible - Thank you.
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Its ready Sonoma since yesterday
I update all theme slowly but surly 😉 I also change the way for the Recovery HD and external HD

Flavours-X.png
 
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iMac 27 2011. The system is loading. Installed the WX7100 video card driver. The desktop became green (dirty). But the accelerator works. The games are working. The site is working. Wifi doesn't work. The sound works. The mouse does not work properly - there is no scrolling sensitivity.
 
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Has anyone tried os 14 on the 6,1 2013 Mac Pro….is it same as everyone else no Bluetooth WiFi? I’m gunna take that graphics working considering even the low end d300 supported metal
 
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