macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Larsvonhier]

MacBookAir 4,2 boots Sonoma; also with sound, trackpad/kbd, iSight for FaceTime working.
HD3000 with no framebuffer (so no backlight control) atm.

edit: Can confirm MacBook 5,1 as well. Framebuffer and backlight control work, along with sound, trackpad, keyboard.
edit2: MacBook Pro 6,1 (17" with dual GPU) up and running Sonoma with same results as expected.

 

[amaze1499]

I’ll be waiting for MacOS20 and the M9

 

[MacRumors3590]

Yeah that’s the same issue we Nvidia users ran into. Apparently AMD works fine, but I’m not buying a graphics card just to beta test.

Thanks for the info!

 

[Larsvonhier]

I’ll be waiting for MacOS20 and the M9

MacOS or rather macOS?

 

[borp99]

On the off-chance that internal BT/WiFi cards can't get patched, is anyone reporting functional BT/WiFi using a plug-in USB device with its own drivers?

 

[philippemarques]

and self.constants.computer.wifi.chipset in [device_probe.Broadcom.Chipsets.AirPortBrcm4360, device_probe.Broadcom.Chipsets.AirportBrcmNIC]) if self.model in ["MacBookPro8,2", "MacBookPro8,3"]: Huge differences with MacBookPro8,1 ?

 

[deeveedee]

Just installed Sonoma 14.0 on my MBP6,2 using the EFI generated with OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 (AMFIPass Beta branch). My EFI has AMFI and Library Validation ENABLED (no need to disable AMFI for the macOS installation). I haven't applied post-install patches (and I don't expect them to work), but this early success is very promising! Thank you, Devs!

EDIT: Contrary to my expectations, OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 post-install patches applied without any errors on my MBP6,2. After applying post-install patches and rebooting, I was able to login to Sonoma; however, Safari is not correctly displaying most websites that I tested. This is still amazing for such an early test.

EDIT2: Firefox works perfectly in Sonoma, so it is a suitable replacement for Safari until OCLP is updated for Sonoma. Currently posting this in Firefox 114.0 running in Sonoma 14.0 on my MBP6,2 patched with OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 (AMFI/LV Enabled).

EDIT3: I just reviewed the previous posts and see that I should feel lucky. I may be naive (and I am all for naive optimism), but it appears that NVidia Tesla post-install patches are near-ready for Sonoma prime time.

 

[Pri-est]

Hi!
Successfull installation on CMP5.1 (flashed 4.1) config by OCLP 0.6.8NB (Sonoma-dev) root-patch by OCLP 0.6.0
GPU Vega56
Green Artifacts present.

 

[Tockman]

On the off-chance that internal BT/WiFi cards can't get patched, is anyone reporting functional BT/WiFi using a plug-in USB device with its own drivers?

#108

 

[OnawaAfrica]

Did TouchID work for you for Ventura? I think they just dropped T1 Security frameworks.

yes worked well in Ventura. that's possible, hope its also possible to re add it
would make sense that they removed it cause they dropped the 2017 T1 machines

 

[deeveedee]

As others have reported, Sonoma installer would not boot with AirportBrcm kexts enabled. I modified my OC config.plist as follows so that I can use a single EFI to boot Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura and Sonoma:

MaxKernel limit for AirportBrcm kexts

Spoiler

The MaxKernel limit of 22.99.99 in Open Core's config.plist tells Open Core only to inject the kext for macOS versions 22.99.99 (Ventura) and below. Similar logic for the MinKernel limit.

 

[chris1111]

Add Flavours-Sonoma14 themes with a collections of all Background

 

[Larsvonhier]

Just installed Sonoma 14.0 on my MBP6,2 using the EFI generated with OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 (AMFIPass Beta branch). My EFI has AMFI and Library Validation ENABLED (no need to disable AMFI for the macOS installation). I haven't applied post-install patches (and I don't expect them to work), but this early success is very promising! Thank you, Devs!

View attachment 2215354

EDIT: Contrary to my expectations, OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 post-install patches applied without any errors on my MBP6,2. After applying post-install patches and rebooting, I was able to login to Sonoma; however, Safari is not correctly displaying most websites that I tested. This is still amazing for such an early test.

EDIT2: Firefox works perfectly in Sonoma, so it is a suitable replacement for Safari until OCLP is updated for Sonoma. Currently posting this in Firefox 114.0 running in Sonoma 14.0 on my MBP6,2 patched with OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 (AMFI/LV Enabled).

EDIT3: I just reviewed the previous posts and see that I should feel lucky. I may be naive (and I am all for naive optimism), but it appears that NVidia Tesla post-install patches are near-ready for Sonoma prime time.

Motivated by your post I tried to patch for Tesla on two MacBook Pros with Nvidia GPUs.
Patches run through without errors as you noted, but I cannot see any difference after rebooting.
Do you really have acceleration (I suspect not...)?

 

[deeveedee]

Motivated by your post I tried to patch for Tesla on two MacBook Pros with Nvidia GPUs.
Patches run through without errors as you noted, but I cannot see any difference after rebooting.
Do you really have acceleration (I suspect not...)?

I suspect not as well, given that I need to use Firefox instead of Safari. What's encouraging to me is that the post-install runs and kexts are loaded. I think that the fact that Sonoma installed and that the OCLP patcher runs is significant (more than I can remember for any initial release of a major version of macOS).

EDIT: I'm amazed that Sonoma on my 2010 laptop is actually quite usable even without full Tesla graphics acceleration.

 

[hvds]

Just installed Sonoma 14.0 on my MBP6,2 using the EFI generated with OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 (AMFIPass Beta branch). My EFI has AMFI and Library Validation ENABLED (no need to disable AMFI for the macOS installation). I haven't applied post-install patches (and I don't expect them to work), but this early success is very promising! Thank you, Devs!

View attachment 2215354

EDIT: Contrary to my expectations, OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 post-install patches applied without any errors on my MBP6,2. After applying post-install patches and rebooting, I was able to login to Sonoma; however, Safari is not correctly displaying most websites that I tested. This is still amazing for such an early test.

EDIT2: Firefox works perfectly in Sonoma, so it is a suitable replacement for Safari until OCLP is updated for Sonoma. Currently posting this in Firefox 114.0 running in Sonoma 14.0 on my MBP6,2 patched with OCLP 0.6.7 Beta2 (AMFI/LV Enabled).

EDIT3: I just reviewed the previous posts and see that I should feel lucky. I may be naive (and I am all for naive optimism), but it appears that NVidia Tesla post-install patches are near-ready for Sonoma prime time.

MBP5,2: installed 14.0b1 to external SSD, from USB installer (InstallAssistant via MrMacintosh). No manual intervention needed (other than connecting external keyboard/mouse via USB hub).
Using lastest OCLP 068n from today for EFI.

Root patching with this OCLP yet to be tried.
Ethernet working, writing with Firefox, Safari not tried yet.

Almost unbelievable! OCLP is a fantastic piece of work.

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Now root patches applied.
Internal keyboard/trackpad working.
Graphics already usable, monitor backlight control ok.
Sleep/wake ok.

 

[TigerA]

iMac12,2 with K3100M graphics card and OCLP 068n : runs without root patch (failed installing), no graphics acceleration, no wifi & BT, safari is having rendering issue. Other than that, it is a great start in the very early stage of this development. Much appreciated to all the developers for the talent and effort.

 

[redheeler]

I doubt it though. My 2020 iMac is the latest and last Intel Mac ever made, and was released in mid 2020. Can't imagine them dropping support within 4 years. That said, the Mac Pro was sold until yesterday. Can't imagine Apple letting customers who just recently bought a very expensive machine sit without any further updates just over a year after purchase, though Apple is Apple...

It will likely get one more release after Sonoma. 2025 will be a sad year for Intel Macs.

On the plus side, Linux exists. My 2006 iMac was running a current and supported Linux distro long after Apple decided it should be running a current and supported quantity of dirt in the landfill.

 

[idenis42]

What good have you seen in the Ventura system? Nothing. We didn't have time to work in the Ventura system. A new system is created every year. What for? Is the Apple company mocking us? We have created a system for 5 years - it is so necessary. And they change the system every year. I'm tired of it already. The Apple company does not allow us all to work quietly in the system.

 

[Longplays]

What good have you seen in the Ventura system? Nothing. We didn't have time to work in the Ventura system. A new system is created every year. What for? Is the Apple company mocking us? We have created a system for 5 years - it is so necessary. And they change the system every year. I'm tired of it already. The Apple company does not allow us all to work quietly in the system.

I'd want a year where in Tim puts a halt to features and focus on bug fixes, optimization & security updates for 52 weeks.

 

[ronille]

What about MacBookPro 11,3 and Ventura? Will it work? Does anyone know?


Edit: what I meant to be asking was about Sonoma. Sorry.
I am running Ventura already. I just installed it before asking my question and had just started using the Mac.

 

[INK1]

What about MacBookPro 11,3 and Ventura? Will it work? Does anyone know?

Running Ventura 13.4 on my MBP 11,5 from 2015, so guess it will work ok for you. Someone using 11,3 MBP might confirm. (But this is the Sonoma thread, so please change to Ventura with your question)

 

[Larsvonhier]

Running Ventura 13.4 on my MBP 11,5 from 2015, so guess it will work ok for you. Someone using 11,3 MBP might confirm.

clearly wrong topic here, pls. head over to the Ventura thread...

 

[chris1111]

What good have you seen in the Ventura system? Nothing. We didn't have time to work in the Ventura system. A new system is created every year. What for? Is the Apple company mocking us? We have created a system for 5 years - it is so necessary. And they change the system every year. I'm tired of it already. The Apple company does not allow us all to work quietly in the system.

Agree this is totally ridiculous

 

[maxevens]

No, patched manually.

Can you share some details on it? I’m curious 👀

 

[educovas]

Can you share some details on it? I’m curious 👀

Had to downgrade almost the whole userspace WiFi stack to match the kext from Ventura.