macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread

[macinfo]

Apple released macOS 14 RC2 (23A344) to developers

 

[TOM1211]

Updated to latest Sonoma RC came in at around 500mb after reverting patches , update went ok main issue I’ve found so far is photos crashed on first launch opened successfully second time , clicking memories in photos will crash , crash report for MTLCompilerService , first crash is metalrenderer.
Update : crash for me seems to using intel iris pro changing the automatic graphics switching to off will resolve this issue or using gswitch to use nvidia instead of the intel .

 

[Vacusuck]

No kidding. From what I gather, you did use the wrong OCLP build previously. If the "system" does not run stable, create a new user and try to reproduce the issues there. Let me know the results. See what you can gather from the logs in console at that time. Maybe I can point you in the right direction. I assume that iMacs HD has been upgraded to SSD?

Yeah, I put a Mercury SSD in it a long time ago, one of the best decisions I made. The only issue I have is waking from sleep. After entering the password at the lock screen, it takes probably over a minute before I see the desktop. I haven't beat up the install too much; that's the only glaring thing I see so far.

 

[nekton1]

Updated to latest Sonoma RC came in at around 500mb after reverting patches , update went ok main issue I’ve found so far is photos crashed on first launch opened successfully second time , clicking memories in photos will crash , crash report for MTLCompilerService , first crash is metalrenderer.

OTA update to RC2 went fine on MacMini 7,1 (2014) and no problems with Photos crash

 

[davidlv]

Yeah, I put a Mercury SSD in it a long time ago, one of the best decisions I made. The only issue I have is waking from sleep. After entering the password at the lock screen, it takes probably over a minute before I see the desktop. I haven't beat up the install too much; that's the only glaring thing I see so far.

Open the terminal app and run
pmset -g
to see the current hibernation mode,
probably "3" now.
You might try the following; Hibernation mode 3 writes to the sleepimage (same size as the amount of RAM installed)
and your SSD may have issues reading that info, causing the delay. Hibernation mode 0 only writes info to the RAM, so it can be instantly accessed. You can always revert to mode 3 if you like. I have used mode 0 for years with both laptops and desktop machines, zero issues.

sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0
sudo rm /var/vm/sleepimage
--Ignore any message saying there is no such file
Create a blanked zero-byte file so the OS cannot rewrite the file:
sudo touch /var/vm/sleepimage
Make file immutable:
(sudo chflags nouchg ... to revert)
sudo chflags uchg /var/vm/sleepimage
The sleep image file is actually in /private/var/vm/ but /var/vm/ is a symbolic link to that location.

 

[arosania]

Well, another quick heads-up about this. My MBP 9,2 still has this issue, even with the RC. As I said before, I have workarounds so it doesn’t affect me much, but I just did something (on hindsight) very stupid.

The issue in a nutshell is that as soon as I mount a non-apple file system volume (FAT, FAT32, exFAT…) the Finder hangs and the OS is left in a zombie state, requiring a reboot and of course any operation you wanted to do with the mounted volume starts, but hangs and never finishes.

As I haven’t seen or heard anyone else with the same issue, I decided (very stupidly) to rebuild and reinstall OCLP using a freshly downloaded Sonoma-branch version, to see if by any chance it would improve things.

Well, OCLP built normally but as soon as I told it to install onto the disk, it mounted the EFI volume and… yes. As it’s not an apple format, the finder hung, the app deleted my “previous” efi folder and proceeded to hung right after so it never copied (it couldn’t) the new open core efi. Result: no more Sonoma boot.

The funny part is that just last week I erased all the other partitions and bootable USB sticks as “I’ve never had to use them” 😂😂. Just my luck.

Long story short, I used internet recovery to download and install Catalina on an external drive, downloaded OCLP Sonoma branch, ran it from Catalina, installed it onto my internal drive and recovered my Sonoma boot capabilities. That took a while 😂.

What worries me is that, as it stands, I won’t be able to update OCLP directly from Sonoma until I find out wtf is going on. Now I think it must be some piece of software I have installed, as I haven’t seen any of you guys having the issue, so I have a long road of sleuthing to travel.

Will report back if I find the cause. In the meantime, be aware of that so it doesn’t happen to you (and of course, I’m not deleting that Catalina install) 🤣

Now to get some sleep…

And... Just to bring closure to this, after spending a whole week trying to find the cause of it, and not getting any closer to solving it...

I have just upgraded to Sonoma RC2 and the issue is fixed 😲

Well, never look a gifted horse in the mouth, but it's nice to see Apple fixing issues on unsupported machines 🤣 (sarcasm)

Anyway, it's fixed and everything is working fine so I think it's better for me to just forget about it (at least for the time being)

 

[MacinMan]

The latest Blender (3.6.3) now unexpectedly quits on launch:

The Blender issue also happens on Monterey which is natively supported by this iMac. I had the issue too after updating Blender, so I doubt it's OCLP related since it happened on a officially supported OS as well.

 

[davidlv]

Apple released macOS 14 RC2 (23A344) to developers

Can you - or anyone - post when you see the Public Beta available? I have a friend who relies on that.

 

[TOM1211]

OTA update to RC2 went fine on MacMini 7,1 (2014) and no problems with Photos crash

Have no photo crash using Gswitch and forcing Nvidia GT 750m to be used can use memories, crashing when on automatic switching same as widgets for me . Maybe just need to do a full install instead if the OTA just crashing when using the intel iris pro for me.

 

[Macschrauber]

Mac Pro 5,1
OCLP nightly 19-Sep-2023
Sonoma Dev 7 Pub 5
RX560 4GB

Got it booting but got a black screen after the GPU driver kicks in

Can access the machine via screen sharing, no display detected.

tried minimal and moderate spoofing.

Are there some additional boot-arguments to set?

The disk works and has picture if booted on another machine with a RX580.

 

[Ghosthengst77]

Hello Dev Team, I found a few bugs with mbp 14.3 with the latest oclp 0.6.9 nightly for sonoma. With a clean install, the touch bar and Touch ID do not work after installation. When updating from macOS 13.5.2 to Macos 14.0 RC2, the touch bar still works but Touch ID still doesn't work. Not that it's important or necessary, but it would be nice if the problem could be solved before the public version will be Released. Thank you in advance! A perfect job so far dev's....

 

[Rambear1998]

Hello Dev Team, I found a few bugs with mbp 14.3 with the latest oclp 0.6.9 nightly for sonoma. With a clean install, the touch bar and Touch ID do not work after installation. When updating from macOS 13.5.2 to Macos 14.0 RC2, the touch bar still works but Touch ID still doesn't work. Not that it's important or necessary, but it would be nice if the problem could be solved before the public version will be Released. Thank you in advance! A perfect job so far dev's....

 

[MisterAndrew]

What's the oldest Mac anyone has gotten Sonoma running on? A 2007 with a Core 2 Duo?

 

[surszki]

What's the oldest Mac anyone has gotten Sonoma running on? A 2007 with a Core 2 Duo?

my iMac8.1 - 6GB RAM, sonoma rc2 works fine. web browsing, office, movies are enough for me.

 

[theoak2]

Very nice to keep something that is fully functional out of the landfill. I think Apple only puts up with OCLP to keep us from putting Linux on old Macs, or throwing them into the landfills. It is really to their advantage to be known as a company that truly cares about the environment. Putting up with OCLP (I guess) is their way of doing just that. (At least that is what I hope their motivation is.)

 

[javinv]

Hello Dev Team, I found a few bugs with mbp 14.3 with the latest oclp 0.6.9 nightly for sonoma. With a clean install, the touch bar and Touch ID do not work after installation. When updating from macOS 13.5.2 to Macos 14.0 RC2, the touch bar still works but Touch ID still doesn't work. Not that it's important or necessary, but it would be nice if the problem could be solved before the public version will be Released. Thank you in advance! A perfect job so far dev's....

Touch bar works normally on my MacBookPro14,3. It has worked since the first nightly version that I installed (before they filled the Radeon problems).

Maybe your problem is related to something else (hardware)?

 

[deeveedee]

Just posting in case there's still a concern about how slowly the Devs are moving

 

[macpro_mid2014]

I did an OTA update on my MBP11,2 from Ventura 13.5.2 to Sonoma RC + OCLP 0.69Nightly. I had a lot of issues with Finder and Safari (freezes, unresponsive screen, etc.).

Then, I decided to create a new volume and did a fresh install on it. So far so good. I still did not (and will not) migrate all the apps I had in the previous volume because many of them I don't use anymore (but some of their services were still running on the background...) I will install an app just when I need it and after a while, will delete the old volume.

Looking forward for the release of Sonoma and OCLP 0.6.9.

Conclusion:

By researching the issues I was having, I concluded that lowering FeatureUnlock from Enable to Partial solved all the problems.
My old installation is now up and running without any issues since the beginning of the week.

Cheers.

 

[fyrefly]

Everything working smoothly on MacBookPro14,3 after latest nightly update:

- Resume from sleeps works!!
- Radeon Pro 555 works and is no longer detected as Polaris. All things related to it work amazingly well (external display and change between graphic chipsets!)

Thank you for this update. Tried on my MBP14,3 as well and it’s working great (except for Touch ID, which I knew wouldn’t work…) thank you again OCLP team!

 

[haralds]

On my Mac Pro 2010 with flashed RX-580 and a fast PCiE M2 system disk, I have never been able to get Ventura or Sonoma to update correctly after removing root patches. The update downloads and then fails. I have to do a complete install.
I use OCLP 0.6.8 for Ventura and nightly builds 0.6.9 for Sonoma.
The install/upgrade takes up to 8 hours for some reason. I just let it run overnight. The Mac Pro keeps the room warm.

 

[deeveedee]

On my Mac Pro 2010 with flashed RX-580 and a fast PCiE M2 system disk, I have never been able to get Ventura or Sonoma to update correctly after removing root patches. The update downloads and then fails. I have to do a complete install.
I use OCLP 0.6.8 for Ventura and nightly builds 0.6.9 for Sonoma.
The install/upgrade takes up to 8 hours for some reason. I just let it run overnight. The Mac Pro keeps the room warm.

If it's any consolation, it could be worse. I always need to apply the full upgrade to my MBP6,2, since the incremental upgrades don't work for me, either. The reason for this was explained in an earlier post. Since upgrade times depend heavily on your Internet download speed, do what you can to speed up your connection and if you're performing the upgrade over Wi-Fi, add a wired Ethernet connection during the upgrade.

 

[megaholti]

Hi on my iMac 14.2 with Dev 7 works fine, but after update OTA to RC, the login programm crashed so that i cannot login again. Have anyone an idea? the loginscreen shows up, crashed, blank screen, shows up and crashed (loginwindow) and so on.

 

[air.man]

Wow! The last nightly solved my problem with Mail not showing text messages. Now only the bluetooth miss to have a full working Sonoma on my MBP8,2. The problem is known but I'm sure that the DreamTeam will find the solution. Thanks a lot Devs !!

 

[deeveedee]

Unattended upgrade from Sonoma 14.0 RC1 -> RC2 proceeded without issues on my MBP6,2 (non-metal Nvidia Tesla) patched with OCLP 0.6.9 sonoma-development nightly. Awesome job, Devs!

 

[macOS XP]

I installed Sonoma on my MBP11,1 (Late 2013) today with OCLP of course. But unfortunately I can't seem to be able to upgrade to RC or RC2, it says that I am on the newest version, which is 14.0 Build 23A5337a...

But otherwise it works pretty well, a bit slow though, which is to be expected on a base 2013 with only 4GB of RAM. I will try it out on a 2015 MBP and a 2012 Mac mini later, when it's out of beta.

I really like the new features, but something just makes me come back to Catalina as my main OS every time. I simply love the older design, and it´s so stable and reliable like nothing else that came after, at least in my experience. I really like playing with the new features, but my main system (MBP Early 2015) won't get anything but Catalina. Just my preference.