I've been using Ice instead of Bartender and iStat Menus is working well for me.Bartender 5 works fine for me in Public Beta 1, but if I try and run iStat Menus it then crashes.
iStat menus by itself runs, but doesn't put anything on the menu bar.
Bartender was not working before I installed iStat Menus, so I uninstalled it. I then installed iStat Menus, and it is working fine.Bartender 5 works fine for me in Public Beta 1, but if I try and run iStat Menus it then crashes.
iStat menus by itself runs, but doesn't put anything on the menu bar.
Thanks - this worked for me too.Bartender was not working before I installed iStat Menus, so I uninstalled it. I then installed iStat Menus, and it is working fine.
Same here. Ice really is a great replacement for Bartender.I've been using Ice instead of Bartender and iStat Menus is working well for me.
I've been using Ice instead of Bartender and iStat Menus is working well for me.
Same here. Ice really is a great replacement for Bartender.
fwiw, what's wrong with hidden bar? it's worked for me thru every beta since tahoe developer beta 1....I've ever heard of this tool but it looks exactly like the Hidden Bar replacement I've been yearning for. Bartender has never been on my radar as I thought it looked overkill and overpriced for my needs. Thanks for sharing, your posts may have just earned this dev an extra fan 👍🏼
Nothing wrong, if it meets your needs. When I tried it some years (3?) ago, I found it was significantly lacking in functionality compared with Bartender. Checking now, I see that it has not had any updates in over 3 years - that would worry me regarding commitment from the developer.what's wrong with hidden bar?
Nothing wrong, if it meets your needs. When I tried it some years (3?) ago, I found it was significantly lacking in functionality compared with Bartender. Checking now, I see that it has not had any updates in over 3 years - that would worry me regarding commitment from the developer.
ah, got it. i used to use bartender, but it's overkill for me; i just want to hide some icons. so, it's a freebee that works perfectly in tahoe. it's basic, it works; am not worried about 'developer commitment' 👍Nothing wrong, if it meets your needs. When I tried it some years (3?) ago, I found it was significantly lacking in functionality compared with Bartender. Checking now, I see that it has not had any updates in over 3 years - that would worry me regarding commitment from the developer.
Fair enough.it's basic, it works; am not worried about 'developer commitment'
I was too. Now there is a beta version for Tahoe - Ice 0.11.13. No new features, but fixes issues with Tahoe. https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice/releasesI'm now a little disappointed that there's been no updates since Oct last year
Yes...Sound ID Reference was but is OK now... don't know why... I had trouble with VSL Vienna Ensemble Pro Server v7.... VSL is now aware of the problem... do you use it??Hi audio/music people, here's a list of stuff that works with dev beta 4. If some kind soul wants to add these to the first post, thanks!
Logic Pro all plugins and third-party ones from Plugin Alliance, Audiomodern, Ayaic etc - I expect most/all the third party plugins to work but have too many to test
Rogue Amoeba
Mixed In Key SE, MIK 11 works but MIK Live does not
- Latest SoundSource and Audio Hijack Pro work (test versions)
Sound ID Reference works, was a bit flaky at first
Native Instruments Traktor works
Izotope RX 11 works
- havent tested it with my Z2 mixer
Audiofinder works
Focusrite control works
ILok License manager works
- Scarlett 4i4 Gen 3 Audio interface works
Anytune works, but the name of the track playing doesnt appear at the top of ther window
VCV Rack Free 2 works
Melodics works
Sugar Bytes Thesys, Effectrix2 standalone do NOT work
Havent tested Serato DJ yet
all my logic plugins work, with some caveats: izotope plugins have some quirks; fabfilter has some save & rewrite issues. but nothing that keeps me from working 👍Hi audio/music people, here's a list of stuff that works with dev beta 4. If some kind soul wants to add these to the first post, thanks!
Logic Pro all plugins and third-party ones from Plugin Alliance, Audiomodern, Ayaic etc - I expect most/all the third party plugins to work but have too many to test
Does little snitch mini work?Non-Working Apps (move to the other list once they are confirmed to be working)
Partially Working
- Any Add To Dock or Web App removed from the dock (do not appear in new spotlight)
- Alcove (will not launch after install)
- Aldente ( Battery Manager) - Experimental build for Tahoe v1.33.2 -> Working with 1.34.1
- Bartender fails to set his menu bar
- Carbon Copy Cloner V7.1.1 (See my post #38) - Latest beta v7.1.2-b4 now works
- Clean Email (use web client instead)
- DEVONthink 4 (runs but crashes on exit)
- Endless Sky (crashes within a few minutes - edit: another try didn't crash but glitchy graphics
- Mailbutler (crashes)
- MagicJack (opens but cannot find telephone)
- Malwarebytes (runs, but you'll have difficulty installing new updates)
- Movist (doesn't start)
- Menubar IP - seems open, but text is not visible
- Orion (app launches but browser crashes when browsing or clicking anywhere)
- SpyderXElite 6.2 (cannot save calibration file)
- The Long Dark ("failed to load dll")
- TotalFinder (even after disabling SIP and other instructions, it resides in FINDER settings but cannot be accessed)
- Typinator
- Lightroom Classic 14.4 (working with beta 4)
Debated (some say it works, some say it doesn't)
- Adapter (conversions work, but update does not)
- Bumpr (Initially works but will not let you edit settings after initial install)
- Forecast Bar (Weather notifications working but will not appear in Menu Bar)
- iMazing (Broken context menus and popups, various buttons not working. See post)
- Keka (works but can't customize such as selecting to delete files after expanding)
- Little Snitch (current stable release is broken, nightly is working) Thread about this.
- Microsoft Outlook - Couple of crashes, but generally working okay.
- Microsoft Word - Word won't save when quit - Beta 4
- Popclip (works but menu hangs not allowing you to select "start at login.")
- PureVPN (Dashboard allows VPN to be enabled but not disabled. Taskbar still allows it to be disabled)
- Steam (app works but haven't actually gotten a game to work - maybe it's just the games themselves?)
- Time Machine icon not set up, had to go into settings and select my backup disc. Now enabled.
- CleanShotX - 4.8 - can take screenshots, but can't edit them in the CleanshotX app because most of the icons in the toolbar aren't accessible)
- Mullvad (VPN works, but Messages cannot receive or send messages when it's active)
- WhatsApp Desktop
- Yahoo Mail App.
Working Apps
- Docker Desktop (See this post)
- Dropbox - 226.3.5047 works
- Surfshark 4.20.0 (download version spotty, MAS seems fully stable)
- 1CCBlocker
- 1Password
- 1Password for Safari
- 4D Client
- AlDente Pro
- Adapter
- AdGuard Pro
- Adobe Creative Cloud
- Adobe Lightroom Classic
- Adobe Photoshop 2025
- Affinity Designer 2
- Affinity Photo 2
- Affinity Publisher 2
- Alfred 5
- Amethyst
- Amphetamine
- Apache Netbeans
- AppCleaner
- BambuStudio
- Battle.net Launcher
- BBEdit
- Bear
- BetterDisplay (use latest internal pre-release for full compatibility and updated visuals)
- BetterTouchTool
- BetterZip
- Bitdefender AV
- Blackmagic Disk SpeedTest
- Brave
- Brother P-Touch Editor
- Canva
- Carbon Copy Cloner 7.1.2-b4 (see above)
- ChatGPT Desktop
- CheatSheet
- Checkbook Pro 3
- Chronicle
- Clamshell
- Claude
- CleanMyMac
- CoconutBattery Plus
- ColorNavigator 7
- Copilot Money
- CustomMenu 3
- Cursor
- CyberDuck
- DaisyDisk
- Datacolor Spyder
- Dato
- DaVinci Resolve
- Default Folder X 6.2b1 (Beta)
- Dia Browser
- Discord
- Disk Drill
- Displaperture
- Downie 4
- DriveDx
- Drobo Dashboard
- Enpass (Browser Extensions with latest Beta from Testflight)
- Epic Games
- Fantastical
- Festivitas
- Figma
- Final Draft 13 (seems fixed in beta 4)
- Find Any File
- Firefox
- Firefox Developer Edition
- Forklift
- Geekbench 6
- Ghostty
- Google Chrome
- Grammarly
- GraphicConverter 12
- HazeOver
- Hidden Bar
- Home Assistant
- Home brew•HP Smart
- HoudahSpot
- iAWriter
- Ice (Beta Version for Tahoe)
- IINA
- Instapaper
- iStat Menus
- iTerm 2
- Ivanti Secure Access
- Keybell
- Libre Office
- Librewolf
- Lightroom CC
- Little Snitch (nightly)
- LM Studio
- Logi Options+
- Logic Pro v11.2
- Logos
- Lossless Cut
- LuLu
- Macs Fan Control
- Mactracker
- MacUpdater
- MacWhisper
- MAMP/MAMP Pro
- Microsoft Edge
- Microsoft Excel
- Microsoft Office 365 – Teams OK
- Microsoft PowerPoint
- Microsoft Word - Word won't save when quit - Beta 4
- Min browser
- MongoDB Compass
- Moneydance
- Monilogue Sound Librarian
- Mos 3.5.0 (safe application, but needs Gatekeeper to allow from Anywhere)
- Mp3Tag
- MySQL Workbench
- NeoFinder
- Nextcloud Desktop Client
- Nextcloud Talk
- Noir
- NordVPN
- Notion
- Nova (shows standard prerelease software disclaimer, but works)
- ntsc-rs
- Obsidian
- Okta Verify
- One Markdown
- Onyx 4.9.0 beta
- OpenAudible
- OpenEmu
- Oversight
- Owly
- Paprika Recipe Manager 3
- Parallels Desktop Pro
- Parcel
- PCalc
- PCS60
- PDFpenPro
- Permute
- Perplexity
- Phoenix Code
- Photo Mechanic
- Pixea
- Pixelmator Pro
- Polypane
- PopChar V10.4
- Postman
- Private Internet Access
- Proton Drive
- Proton Pass
- Proton VPN
- PyCharm
- qBittorrent
- Qobuz
- QuickBooks Online desktop app
- Reeder Classic
- reMarkable
- Remote Desktop
- Remove-It
- REW
- RoboForm
- Roon
- Scrivener
- Skeets
- Signal
- Shottr
- Sky Go
- Slack
- SnippetsLab
- Sonos
- SoundSource (works after an acknowledgement and ARK plugin update)
- SpamSieve
- Spark
- Sparkle AI
- Speedtest.Net App
- Spotify
- Stats
- StudioTax 2024
- SuperDuper
- Synology Drive Client
- Tailscale
- Telegram
- TG Pro
- Things 3
- Tinkertools
- TinkerTool System 9
- Topaz Photo AI 4 (some UI issues with progress bars)
- Topaz Video AI 7 (some UI issues with progress bars)
- Transmit
- TurboTax 2024
- Unity Hub
- Usage
- Visual Studio Code
- VLC
- VMWare Fusion
- Warp
- Webex
- WiFi Signal
- Wipr
- Wireguard
- WinBox 4
- World of Warcraft
- XLD
- XQuartz
- Yep
- Zoom
The MAS version is working for me, yes.Does little snitch mini work?
awesome thanksThe MAS version is working for me, yes.
Quicken works fine for me.Has anyone tried Quicken yet? It used to be a semi-popular app. Maybe it isn't used by others too much anymore? 🤷♂️
I got it to show up by doing two things in this sequence. Not sure if one of these would have worked:I cannot find a way to enter Time Machine. The menubar icon doesn’t appear and there is no option I can find in System Settings.