Looks like Beta 5 has added support for the Steam Controller. I haven’t tried it though.
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macOS Golden Gate 27.0 Beta 5 - What’s New?
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I see that that putting apps such as Mail and Safari into full screen mode means the very top of your content gets cut off. See 2 pics below. Bring things back to windowed mode fixes things.
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SketchyClown
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Noticed some odd behaviour with dragging a window into a different space in Mission Control.
You bring up Mission Control and when you go to drag whatever window into a space or to a different space, the window turns into a transparent outline of the window and stays that way so you're not quite sure if the drag was successful or not as the window is essentially invisible now.
However, exiting from Mission Control and re-entering then shows the window is where it is supposed to be and it is no longer transparent.
Here is an example of dragging Safari from Desktop 2 to Desktop 8. It acted the same way with a Finder window. Only happens once you start to drag.
I'll send a report through Feedback.
You bring up Mission Control and when you go to drag whatever window into a space or to a different space, the window turns into a transparent outline of the window and stays that way so you're not quite sure if the drag was successful or not as the window is essentially invisible now.
However, exiting from Mission Control and re-entering then shows the window is where it is supposed to be and it is no longer transparent.
Here is an example of dragging Safari from Desktop 2 to Desktop 8. It acted the same way with a Finder window. Only happens once you start to drag.
I'll send a report through Feedback.
Possibility for Switch 2 controller 🤞
or just steam for now
southerndoc
Contributor
Seems like the Google Chrome local network access issue is fixed.
Is it me, or does the dev beta 5 seem super fast?
Is it me, or does the dev beta 5 seem super fast?
Slo Pesci
macrumors 65816
adrianlondon
macrumors 604
I always use the "zoom" mode or whatever it's called (which fills the screen apart from the dock and menubar - I have my dock on the left).
When I click "full screen" now, my menu bar disappears as it should (I have it set to hide on full screen) but the app doesn't actually use the full screen - the menu bar is now simply blank. Is that how it was in previous betas / versions?
MBAir2010
macrumors G3
lmaodzedun
macrumors member
Apple has mixed two completely different design languages, and this might be the worst design decision they have ever made.
On the left, you can see the progressive blur from the Liquid Glass era. On the right, you can see the same blur with an old macOS toolbar outline placed on top of it. It looks like ****.
In light mode, the strip is barely visible, but it still creates more visual noise. In dark mode, the toolbar background is clearly visible, while the progressive blur remains visible on the panel next to it.
Apple had to put a background behind its supposedly brilliant Liquid Glass buttons just so people could actually see them. LMAO. This is ****ing ridiculous.
Apple’s designers have no idea how an interface should be rendered. Apple has no idea what it is doing.
What really pisses me off is that this toolbar strip appears ONLY WHEN YOU HOVER OVER THE TITLE BAR. THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG.
Every button already jumps around with those annoying Liquid Glass animations, and now the entire toolbar background appears on hover too. This is a nightmare for a desktop operating system. It is incredibly distracting when you are just trying to work in peace.
What the **** is Apple doing? Why is Apple ruining the look of the entire operating system?
Dark mode now looks just as bad as light mode. This is a massive downgrade, possibly even worse than Tahoe.
On the left, you can see the progressive blur from the Liquid Glass era. On the right, you can see the same blur with an old macOS toolbar outline placed on top of it. It looks like ****.
In light mode, the strip is barely visible, but it still creates more visual noise. In dark mode, the toolbar background is clearly visible, while the progressive blur remains visible on the panel next to it.
Apple had to put a background behind its supposedly brilliant Liquid Glass buttons just so people could actually see them. LMAO. This is ****ing ridiculous.
Apple’s designers have no idea how an interface should be rendered. Apple has no idea what it is doing.
What really pisses me off is that this toolbar strip appears ONLY WHEN YOU HOVER OVER THE TITLE BAR. THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG.
Every button already jumps around with those annoying Liquid Glass animations, and now the entire toolbar background appears on hover too. This is a nightmare for a desktop operating system. It is incredibly distracting when you are just trying to work in peace.
What the **** is Apple doing? Why is Apple ruining the look of the entire operating system?
Dark mode now looks just as bad as light mode. This is a massive downgrade, possibly even worse than Tahoe.
MinimeJer05
macrumors 6502
Beta 5 broke my use of Safari. Claude tells me a sandbox profile issue - not a huge deal, I use many other browsers.
Otherwise, this beta has been running very smooth on my M1 Max Studio.
Otherwise, this beta has been running very smooth on my M1 Max Studio.
rwilliams
macrumors 68040
Beta 5 is running well. The only weird thing I've noticed is that System Data has tripled since the update, but I figure that's from indexing and such. It's always a little jarring when you see your available disk space drop dramatically 🙂
Haven’t seen any evidence unfortunately. To my knowledge the Switch 2 controller uses a different bt protocol (maybe btle?). Happy to be corrected.
You are correct. Apple has completely and totally lost its way regarding design. The whole thing with tahoe and GG is just pathetic. And 100% unnecessary.
I’ve hated some niche inconsistencies that bug me more than everyone else, but this looks good to me, personally.
I think it would look weird, blocky, and bulky if the same bar was carried over from the right side to the left.
alstrike
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MinimeJer05
macrumors 6502
I take back what I said. Experiencing same issue I had last year with 26 betas. Safari doesn't work for internet. Cisco VPN or any other app that uses the "in-browser/Safari" gateway to login (Teams, Outlook, etc) also does not work.
I can function in Edge and Dia browser.
fisherking
macrumors G5
i still have to widen the messages window to see the sidebar; started in beta 4. minor nuisance tho...
pdfu
macrumors regular
Apple left a full "Pocket Tuning" panel for scroll edge effects in Beta 5
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Apple left a full "Pocket Tuning" panel for scroll edge effects in Beta 5
macOS 27 Beta 5 includes a new "Pocket Tuning Window" that can change the scroll edge effect in real time in supported apps. Watch the video for a demo of how it all works. You can tune both light and dark mode effects, and can really make the scroll edge effect disappear. To enable...
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Yes. I agree with you. It's so bad it's stunning this made it into production. Thank god responsible parties were fired and we can only hope that Ternus will usher a new era soon.
My estimates are they will have to run its course, like a bad case of fever, before everything gets better. I'm guessing that Ternus and his new team will be announcing new design language in 2030 as another major evolution that will help Apple set the standard for the new decade.
So, good news is we won't have liquid glass disaster for too long. While parts of it and certain elements look great the UI has to be fully reworked for it. It's nonsense to try to blend these two together. It doesn't work.
As you are rightly pointing out it is two different design languages and it's just bad.
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pdfu
macrumors regular
If you've been missing Tahoe's transparent toolbars, here's how to bring back more transparency in macOS 27:
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With the MPV8 default set to disabled, you can now have progressive blur everywhere:
Here's how to bring back more transparency in macOS 27
If you were a fan of Liquid Glass in macOS 26, you may have missed the more transparent design of titlebars in macOS Tahoe. While the exact same design is no longer possible because macOS 27 removed the previous rendering pipeline, you can get pretty close. Softer scroll edge effect For a...
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With the MPV8 default set to disabled, you can now have progressive blur everywhere:
Luftkopf
macrumors 68000
My made in China 2023 MacBook Pro shows the Taiwanese flag emoji when I search for it. Not sure what's going on here.
pdfu
macrumors regular
macOS 27 Beta 5 adds a new feature that allows keyboard focus to move from the active app's menus into the controls on the right side of the Menu Bar.
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macOS 27 Beta 5 adds keyboard navigation between app menus and Menu Bar controls
macOS 27 Beta 5 adds a new feature that allows keyboard focus to move from the active app's menus into the controls on the right side of the Menu Bar. It's currently disabled by default. To enable: defaults write -g NSMenuEnableMenuBarAgent -bool true defaults write -g...
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Now it's working Jump Desktop and Jump Desktop Connect. Not worked in beta 4.
nortonandreev
macrumors 68040
They don't know what they're doing...If you've been missing Tahoe's transparent toolbars, here's how to bring back more transparency in macOS 27:
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Here's how to bring back more transparency in macOS 27
If you were a fan of Liquid Glass in macOS 26, you may have missed the more transparent design of titlebars in macOS Tahoe. While the exact same design is no longer possible because macOS 27 removed the previous rendering pipeline, you can get pretty close. Softer scroll edge effect For a...
With the MPV8 default set to disabled, you can now have progressive blur everywhere:
View attachment 2652055
adrianlondon
macrumors 604
What country code do you have in that plist file? Mine had CN.
Maybe I did something by adding/deleting languages (I do have Mandarin simplified and traditional keyboards installed). It might be just me! I probably broke it somehow 🙂
I learnt about the plist country code by googling, so it seems to have affected a few others, but it's looking to be a rare thing, and the fix (now I know it) is easy.