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macOS Hides the Notch on New MacBook Pro in Full-Screen Mode
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I'd like to see how multitasking between many apps/windows in full screen does you any good? You need to swipe completely between screens, on top of that, your dock is gone along with your menu bar all in an effort just to save a few vertical pixels.
Pointless.
“I’m just here to chime in about a laptop I’ll never buy”
So, basically permanently gone menu bar spaces. What’s next? Under the screen camera modules on Mac?
Honestly it was pretty clear during the presentation that the screen was made bigger to accomodate the camera as a notch, so the camera doesn't take away any space, they just relocated the menu in some extra screen space they made ad hoc.
In the end users just gained some 60px of extra workspace when not working with fullscreen apps.
In the end users just gained some 60px of extra workspace when not working with fullscreen apps.
Yes, to get a good UX, let's go back to 1991 when you could only have a single window and app open at once.
All the time. It helps me focus on the task at hand. If I want to switch apps or drag in an image I can just do that with a few keystrokes.
Linux distros can patch their own menu bar. Windows? Parallel just use artificial border.
Well, you won't be running either natively, so it'll depend on your hypervisor. My guess is that they will just cut off the top part of the screen and make it unusable.
So for the majority of the time you won’t actually use the full screen of your new laptop costing at least 2 grand because of the notch… what a stupid design decision, on a small device like a phone it makes sense, on a 16” laptop, no it’s just stupid and looks ugly, and unnecessary.
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While I have no issue with the notch, I agree it looks stupid to simply hide the Menu bar by blacking it out but not increasing the screen height to a true full screen look. You might as well just leave the Menu bar visible. Basically all Apple is doing is like putting a piece of black tape over the Menu bar to temporarily hide it.when not using apps in full screen mode, you can see the notch so best thing to do is set a black wallpaper or something similar to hide the notch
I'm 99% confident going full screen on basically all apps (especially legacy apps) will make the app think the 'top' of the display is where the bottom of the notch is. There will probably be an opt-in setting for devs to go beyond the bottom of the notch and utilize the entire display.
Not a fan. Would rather just have the bezel, but whatever, it's not the end of the world.
I use full screen modes depending on the application.
This seems to be the new trend to be dismissive of anyone critical of any Apple's design choices.
I agree that's what they should have done and honestly I thought this would be the best implementation of the notch area, something that lets us use full screen apps or maximize usable space on the desktop without having to hide the menu bar. Maybe there will be an option for that in the future.
Like Android devices have had for ages lol.
Originally posted this in another thread but its relevant here too.
Imagine editing a photo, using your trackpad to zoom into a section and the big black rectangle notch covers part of your image, so you zoom back out again and move it around so you can see the full image again.
The notch was ugly enough on the iPhone, now they've gone and added it to the MacBook. For clean aesthetic fans, the notch is awful. Even more annoying that the iPad looks better and is the more futuristic device (touch screen, pencil, attachable keyboard etc.), but people need devices like the MacBook to do their day job (Xcode, Ableton Live, Unity, Unreal Engine to name a few).
From a programmers perspective, it makes app design that little bit more awkward and I'm wondering if Windows will ever have support for this awkward layout.
I had high hopes for this machine, reluctantly will hold on to my 2013 MacBook pro for now.
Imagine editing a photo, using your trackpad to zoom into a section and the big black rectangle notch covers part of your image, so you zoom back out again and move it around so you can see the full image again.
The notch was ugly enough on the iPhone, now they've gone and added it to the MacBook. For clean aesthetic fans, the notch is awful. Even more annoying that the iPad looks better and is the more futuristic device (touch screen, pencil, attachable keyboard etc.), but people need devices like the MacBook to do their day job (Xcode, Ableton Live, Unity, Unreal Engine to name a few).
From a programmers perspective, it makes app design that little bit more awkward and I'm wondering if Windows will ever have support for this awkward layout.
I had high hopes for this machine, reluctantly will hold on to my 2013 MacBook pro for now.
No matter how hard you try to justify it, the notch is a failure. This is when we miss Steve the most, he would never allow this to happen.
Exactly, had it been the other way where it cuts into the available screen real estate then yeah I would get the complaints, but this is an elegant solution. I was upset when the notch rumor came up, but bravo Apple for pulling this off.
Here’s a visual for anyone who still doesn’t understand (edit: the diagonal below should measure in at 16.09635") :
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This is objectively wrong. I use full screen CONSTANTLY. It's essential for power users on the go to be able to use multiple virtual desktops and swipe between them.