macOS Monterey to Offer Smoother Gameplay With Support for Adaptive-Sync Displays on Newer Macs

[Realityck]

I ditched my PC for the new iMac — here are the pros and cons - CNN Underscored 6/11​

That said, if you’re serious about PC gaming, the iMac isn’t for you. While you can play more than 100 lightweight Apple Arcade titles and a few big hits like Fortnite and Tomb Raider, the iMac’s game selection and graphics capabilities can’t hold a candle to a properly configured Windows desktop. There’s also the issue of upgradability. I can swap out my PC’s processor, storage, RAM and graphics whenever I want in order to keep it up to date, whereas the iMac’s parts are all sealed in — aside from the option of external storage, what you buy on day one is what you’ll be using for good.

Its a tough sell for Apple to convince gamers that M1 Macs are anything more than a jumbo laptop made to look like a desktop. Even typing this on my Retina MBP, I keep thinking of the 2 fans spinning at higher RPM then the older single fan in the 27" iMacs and thinking how alike the fan setup on the 24" iMac is to my MBP.

The author goes on to explain several more paragraphs before the above comments of his gaming experience on the $1699 model.

 

[nathansz]

The ironic part is that the non-graphics intensive games that I love that lend themselves well to gaming on the Macbook are all 32-bit. Still bitter about it.

I ditched my PC for the new iMac — here are the pros and cons - CNN Underscored 6/11​

Its a tough sell for Apple to convince gamers that M1 Macs are anything more than a jumbo laptop made to look like a desktop. Even typing this on my Retina MBP, I keep thinking of the 2 fans spinning at higher RPM then the older single fan in the 27" iMacs and thinking how alike the fan setup on the 24" iMac is to my MBP.

The author goes on to explain several more paragraphs before the above comments of his gaming experience on the $1699 model.

i don’t think apple or anyone thinks or is trying to convince anyone that an m1 mac is a gaming machine

they’re adding adaptive sync as a feature to macos. i appreciate that but it doesn’t mean anything more or less

 

[Macbookprodude]

Is there gonna be a surge in Mac games with Apple Silicon? Because there are not many out there now.
And you just lost the ability to install Windows on an M1 Chip Machine. Thats where all the games are at.

Let Apple die a slow death because of this.. no more bootcamp, so you will need to use Vmware Fusion of Paralells to run windows 10. Sad.

 

[Macbookprodude]

I ditched my PC for the new iMac — here are the pros and cons - CNN Underscored 6/11​

Its a tough sell for Apple to convince gamers that M1 Macs are anything more than a jumbo laptop made to look like a desktop. Even typing this on my Retina MBP, I keep thinking of the 2 fans spinning at higher RPM then the older single fan in the 27" iMacs and thinking how alike the fan setup on the 24" iMac is to my MBP.

The author goes on to explain several more paragraphs before the above comments of his gaming experience on the $1699 model.

Fake

 

[poematik13]

I had no idea macOS didn't support freesync/gsync this entire time. Wow.

 

[nathansz]

Let Apple die a slow death because of this.. no more bootcamp, so you will need to use Vmware Fusion of Paralells to run windows 10. Sad.

not everyone needs windows for anything

i haven’t used windows regularly since about windows 95

the only time i touch windows now is to run occt and hwinfo to check the overclock on my cpu and ram

other than that my box runs macos, linux and bsd. in that order

just saying

 

[Macbookprodude]

not everyone needs windows for anything

i haven’t used windows regularly since about windows 95

the only time i touch windows now is to run occt and hwinfo to check the overclock on my cpu and ram

other than that my box runs macos, linux and bsd. in that order

just saying

Any not everyone needs the newest os EITHER.. I like your avatar, though I am the opposite

 

[nathansz]

Any not everyone needs the newest os EITHER.. I like your avatar, though I am the opposite

the opposite of my avatar?

so your pro-fascist

takes all kinds i suppose

 

[Macbookprodude]

the opposite of my avatar?

so your pro-fascist

takes all kinds i suppose

Most Ukrainians in this city I live in are authoritarian fascists, but we are slavic nationalists, not nazis.. no. Our version of fascism is not Hitlerism.. its our own nationalist beliefs - Ukraine for Ukrainians, like other nations.

 

[nathansz]

Most Ukrainians in this city I live in are authoritarian fascists, but we are slavic nationalists, not nazis.. no. Our version of fascism is not Hitlerism.. its our own nationalist beliefs - Ukraine for Ukrainians, like other nations.

my mother’s father is from ukraine

me and my wife and my daughter write pysanky at easter and cook Pedaheh for xmas dinner, just like we did when i was a child and she was a child

i’ve never been to ukraine though

closest i’ve been is hungary

 

[atomic.flip]

Is there gonna be a surge in Mac games with Apple Silicon? Because there are not many out there now.
And you just lost the ability to install Windows on an M1 Chip Machine. Thats where all the games are at.

I don't know why I get this feeling, but this aggressive approach towards embracing the M1 and pretty much kicking all x86 Macs in the cojones is going to just create a divergence where people run back to windows or flatly refuse to upgrade.

Granted I could be wrong... but on the games front.... Legacy games may not happen... or they might with virtualization. I mean Parallels could well make it a functional option for M1 Macs. Another factor to seriously consider is that services like Stadia and GeForce Now make the platform question somewhat irrelevant.

Steam will likely offer a similar service soon and when that happens it may just change the gaming landscape entirely.

 

[atomic.flip]

If I can run a game like the recent Tomb Raider at 1080p and get 60fps on reasonable graphics (which they demoed last year, and on pre-M1 hardware), it's not too shabby.

Of course, a MacBook and new iMac won't be able to compete with the dedicated GPUs available - that's a bit of an unfair comparison, and anyway, one that very few will actually make. M1's an entry-level spec, and it'll blow any Intel i3 with its integrated graphics out the water across all meaningful categories - that's a fairer comparison.

But they're marketing features that only apply to the demographic that would indeed make that comparison. Who in the exclusively Mac world (who obviously doesn't already play PC games) even knows what adaptive sync is?

They might as well highlight even more esoteric features of the hardware that are not expected to be challenged or evaluated because, well Mac users don't really do that stuff anyway. Sigh....

 

[nathansz]

I don't know why I get this feeling, but this aggressive approach towards embracing the M1 and pretty much kicking all x86 Macs in the cojones is going to just create a divergence where people run back to windows or flatly refuse to upgrade.

Granted I could be wrong... but on the games front.... Legacy games may not happen... or they might with virtualization. I mean Parallels could well make it a functional option for M1 Macs. Another factor to seriously consider is that services like Stadia and GeForce Now make the platform question somewhat irrelevant.

Steam will likely offer a similar service soon and when that happens it may just change the gaming landscape entirely.

this particular feature will also, apparantly, be available for intel macos

it’s an addition to macos itself, not an apple silicon feature

 

[atomic.flip]

Wait, Razer makes monitors ?

Yes... ONE. And I have one. It's pretty slick. Granted not as big as the heavily overpriced Ultrawide from ASUS.

 

[Macbookprodude]

I don't know why I get this feeling, but this aggressive approach towards embracing the M1 and pretty much kicking all x86 Macs in the cojones is going to just create a divergence where people run back to windows or flatly refuse to upgrade.

Granted I could be wrong... but on the games front.... Legacy games may not happen... or they might with virtualization. I mean Parallels could well make it a functional option for M1 Macs. Another factor to seriously consider is that services like Stadia and GeForce Now make the platform question somewhat irrelevant.

Steam will likely offer a similar service soon and when that happens it may just change the gaming landscape entirely.

You are wrong. PCs will always dominate in sphere of gaming. Macs just suck at gaming.

 

[nathansz]

……

 

[atomic.flip]

this particular feature will also, apparantly, be available for intel macos

it’s an addition to macos itself, not an apple silicon feature

Ok I just re-read and saw that. Thanks for mentioning it. That makes far more sense. Im assuming it will be only the Thunderbolt 3 capable intel Macs as the bandwidth on Thunderbolt 2 is just barely enough to handle DisplayPort 1.2 let alone 1.2a

 

[Macbookprodude]

i can’t really read cyrillic

like i said, my mother’s father is from ukraine, i don’t know what part, they left around 1900 i think

i have his austrian-hungarian empire birth certificate

i’ve been to hungary on tour with one of my bands a few years ago

i actually have a hungarian last name, my fathers fathers name

Oh sorry.. I thought you were Ukrainian or knew language. 1900? Sounds like when Ukraine was part of Austro-Hungarian Empire before it was part of the USSR. Exactly... My last name is Ukrainian-Polish. In fact I was born 30 miles from East Poland.

 

[cmaier]

I don't know why I get this feeling, but this aggressive approach towards embracing the M1 and pretty much kicking all x86 Macs in the cojones is going to just create a divergence where people run back to windows or flatly refuse to upgrade.

So, what you are saying is:

Problem: M1 macs can do things my x86 mac can’t do.
Solution: my next computer will be a windows machine, which can not only not do those new things, but also can’t run Mac OS at all

Ok.

 

[nathansz]

Ok I just re-read and saw that. Thanks for mentioning it. That makes far more sense. Im assuming it will be only the Thunderbolt 3 capable intel Macs as the bandwidth on Thunderbolt 2 is just barely enough to handle DisplayPort 1.2 let alone 1.2a

i have no idea what macs it will work with through what ports or not

hopefully it will work fine from the displayport outputs of the 5700xt in my hackintosh

macos is my preferred operating system, but i haven’t bought a new mac since 2012 so i don’t pay attention to what each machine can do or not

 

[nathansz]

So, what you are saying is:

Problem: M1 macs can do things my x86 mac can’t do.
Solution: my next computer will be a windows machine, which can not only not do those new things, but also can’t run Mac OS at all

Ok.

in this case, it’s more likely a current x86 mac can do it better than an m1 mac

and any new “windows machine,” by which i presume you mean any modern computer, can easily run macos

unless it has an nvidia gpu of course

 

[cmaier]

in this case, it’s more likely a current x86 mac can do it better than an m1 mac

a new “windows machine” can easily run macos

So now your premise is that:

Problem: M1 macs can do things my x86 mac can’t do.
Solution: i‘ll get revenge by building a hackintosh?

What are you talking about?

(by the way, “things my x86 mac can’t do“ obviously refers to “features apple didn’t bring to x86 macs,” so you are changing the subject)

 

[nathansz]

So now your premise is that:
Problem: M1 macs can do things my x86 mac can’t do.
Solution: i‘ll get revenge by building a hackintosh?

What are you talking about?

(by the way, “things my x86 mac can’t do“ obviously refers to “features apple didn’t bring to x86 macs,” so you are changing the subject)

i think you are mixing me up with someone else

i was just pointing out that any x86 computer can run macos

i’ve also yet to hear of anything interesting that macos can only do on apple silicon and not also on intel/amd

indeed, the most compelling front facing addition to macos in years, adaptive sync for monitors, the story that this thread is commenting on, will likely benefit people running macos on x86 more than apples new machines

in fact i rejoice at this addition to macos

no complaints here

like i said, i think you had me mixed up with someone else ?

 

[nathansz]

So now your premise is that:

Problem: M1 macs can do things my x86 mac can’t do.
Solution: i‘ll get revenge by building a hackintosh?

What are you talking about?

(by the way, “things my x86 mac can’t do“ obviously refers to “features apple didn’t bring to x86 macs,” so you are changing the subject)

i never said, thought or implied a single one of those “problems,” premises or statements

i’m honestly not sure if you are confused or trying to set me up as some sort of straw man for some premise or another of your own

 

[star-affinity]

How many of those games still work with Catalina / Big Sur? Most of my games in steam are no longer compatible thanks to 32bit support being gone.

The problems with Macs and gaming is endless. It's an embarrassment to Apple.

I agree with you it has been pretty bad for a long time, but there sure seems to be a higher gaming focus from Apple's side now when they also make their own (seemingly very power efficient compared to the competition) GPUs.

Time will tell, but I don't think we have to assume things will stay the same when it comes to gaming on Macs in the future. Can’t really demand the change to happen over night.