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In this case the HUBs were working just fine. Apple released software that broke it.
Exactly. This is not new. It’s happened many times before.

Why does this keep happening on macs?
Catalina on my 2012 mini also has a USB hub issue. The hub works fine when it’s not connected to power (passive hub). If I connected it so it’s a powered hub, Catalina can randomly crash.
 
Тhe problem existed in Monterey beta. The developers had to fix it before the official release !
 
Not sure if this is directly related but immediately after the update the USB attached iPad (7th Gen) would no longer charge using an Apple lead. Lead works fine using a wall wart or from the M1 Mini to my iPhone SE.
 
I can confirm same thing, none of my Hubs or USB microphones are working on the new 14" MacBook Pro...

We have an M1 Mac in office on MacOs 11 and works fine... updated to 12 and they no longer work. Big issue, we cannot record any voice over or use older wired printers with the new Mac!
 
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Have the same problem with a Philips 276C/8 external display. The display signal over USB c works fine, no power delivery over usb c. Contacted apple and a senior advisor tolt me that I have to contact Philips for a firmware update of the monitor, with is not possible according to Philips. the senior advisor said that apple won't deliver a fix for the problem... a hamma usb 2 hub with 2 external HD's works fine. Its the power delivery that does not work.
 
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Hey Apple! Screw you and your dongles! Give us Mac with ports.

… Apple releases new MBP 2021 …

Hey Apple! I cannot plug dongles in my new mac!

End of Story


This should be made into an aTV series!
i wrote a beginning scene to a TV series (Hookin' with the Cooks!)
about an computer CEO and posted that here months ago
forgot what thread
 
Тhe problem existed in Monterey beta. The developers had to fix it before the official release !
So developers of the hubs or dongles needed to send apple software that needed to be delivered within Monterey OS? If I understand this correctly, hub/dongle manufacturers can't simply send out a patch? They have to send it to Apple and then Apple will add it to Monterey OS and send it out as an OS update.
 
Right after the update, I started with issues with my hub as well. Even with direct connection of my monitor to my M1 via USBC to HDMI I am having issues with mirroring and I wasn't before. This needs to get fixed (hopefully)
 
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It would be a nice burn if one of those $6000 16” MacBook Pro has the same issue using USB hubs lol.
Not quite expensive but that is me. First MBP in five years and both USB C travel hubs I use (each around $100) no longer work at all in my 16 in M1 Max but oddly continue to work on my 2016 MBP which I upgraded to Monterey for the machine migration and used both hubs with no issue on my Monterey 2016 MBP during a phone call with Apple support yesterday.

Reading a few articles made me think this might possibly be an M1 issue:


The interesting thing is my hubs can be seen in System Information from the About This Mac screen on the M1. That is why I am hoping this is a software situation.

Bit of irony that they say less dongles for this new Mac and I am heading on the road Monday with more dongles than ever before. I used to take two travel hubs for all of my connections (one as a backup in case the other failed) and now will need to pack Ethernet, VGA and USBA dongles which will fill all the ports when I present at a conference next week.

Really happy I use a hub in my home office setup or there would have been a really good chance I would have headed to a conference with no connection options. I am sure things could have been scrounged up but I wonder how many people who often use these hubs for presenting at conferences, meetings and whatnot might get caught by this.

Thank you for this thread. Going to contact the conference coordinators of my next two conferences to suggest they have more dongles than usual on hand.
 
Hey Apple! Screw you and your dongles! Give us Mac with ports.

… Apple releases new MBP 2021 …

Hey Apple! I cannot plug dongles in my new mac!

End of Story


This should be made into an aTV series!
It was already on network TV in the 60’s. It was called Candid Camera.
 
No issues on my M1 with the dock, though have noticed since upgrading to Monterey that my 4K Samsung monitor occasionally requires me upon startup to unplug the usb-c from the Mac and reconnect to get it to recognise and display. Guess there’s always issues with initial releases.
 
This update has caused lots of issues on intel machines TBH. My 2013 Mac Pro can’t even install it because of a “firmware” that can’t be updated.

I was testing beta and noticed a huge improvement and wanted to release it across the board to a lot of production machines but now I will be waiting probably a few months. Maybe even a year.
 
A few more old ports on macs costing less than $2,500 would have be avoided this problem. But the problem is not one of their ports so who cares, right? If you use your computer for more than the web you should always avoid updating the OS for a few months.
 
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Weird, my cable connect 7 port works fine with my m1 MBP. I say that with a grain of salt, because you never could use the usbc port to drive a display, even with a cable that works fine direct connected. Not a great hub btw
 
Have the same problem with a Philips 276C/8 external display. The display signal over USB c works fine, no power delivery over usb c. Contacted apple and a senior advisor tolt me that I have to contact Philips for a firmware update of the monitor, with is not possible according to Philips. the senior advisor said that apple won't deliver a fix for the problem... a hamma usb 2 hub with 2 external HD's works fine. Its the power delivery that does not work.
The senior advisor is a 21-year-old idiot. Apple will fix this issue shortly.
 
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But Apple suggests you only use Apple certified ones as the non-Apple certified ones might stop working randomly just like they did now due to Apple's own update. And Apple certified ones happen to be the expensive ones.

The ones Apple sells cost $69 for the "USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter" and if you only need ONE USB port (you will need 2 or 3 in real world scenarios), then it's indeed $19 but you'll more likely be buying 3 of them for $57. And since they're made by Apple the cable will probably fray after 1 year so you'll be buying 3 more a year later. And then 3 more the year after.
Cables are way better. I got a usbc to hdmi cable and two usbc to that flat thing on external usb drives - works great. I did get a hub, the usbc does not drive a display, I think it is for power in only, but they actually never said that anywhere, but it never worked for anything else.

So cables, not dongles. Isn’t that obvious?
 
Not quite expensive but that is me. First MBP in five years and both USB C travel hubs I use (each around $100) no longer work at all in my 16 in M1 Max but oddly continue to work on my 2016 MBP which I upgraded to Monterey for the machine migration and used both hubs with no issue on my Monterey 2016 MBP during a phone call with Apple support yesterday.

Reading a few articles made me think this might possibly be an M1 issue:


The interesting thing is my hubs can be seen in System Information from the About This Mac screen on the M1. That is why I am hoping this is a software situation.

Bit of irony that they say less dongles for this new Mac and I am heading on the road Monday with more dongles than ever before. I used to take two travel hubs for all of my connections (one as a backup in case the other failed) and now will need to pack Ethernet, VGA and USBA dongles which will fill all the ports when I present at a conference next week.

Really happy I use a hub in my home office setup or there would have been a really good chance I would have headed to a conference with no connection options. I am sure things could have been scrounged up but I wonder how many people who often use these hubs for presenting at conferences, meetings and whatnot might get caught by this.

Thank you for this thread. Going to contact the conference coordinators of my next two conferences to suggest they have more dongles than usual on hand.
If you use it for presenting at a conference, you should NEVER install a .0 version. NEVER.
 
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Will be avoiding like a dose of the clap for at least a few point releases. Definitely cannot risk this on my Mac. Seems like abstaining from new software releases is an increasingly sage idea in Apple land.
 
A bug has been discovered, it gets fixed. And life goes on.

Few years later...

iu


...still waiting.
 
Cables are way better. I got a usbc to hdmi cable and two usbc to that flat thing on external usb drives - works great. I did get a hub, the usbc does not drive a display, I think it is for power in only, but they actually never said that anywhere, but it never worked for anything else.

So cables, not dongles. Isn’t that obvious?

Should be obvious. And is the easy solution.

But then one can't have a good whine about how the devastating "dongle-mania" is ruining their professional life.
 
Might boil down to the USB controllers in the hubs. Some manufacturers use cheap ones and Apple (and Microsoft) USB drivers don’t play nice with them. Counterfeit ones even sometimes make it into legit products because suppliers cut corners. The global chip shortage is probably going to make this even more common than it was in the past. OS drivers will need to be updated to be less strict in utilizing specific chipset features otherwise there will be a lot of USB bricks in people’s desk draws.
 
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