Haven't I seen countless posts about how everybody wildly overstates their expected battery life except for Apple?
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macOS Sierra 10.12.2 Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator
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So professionals shouldn't switch to USB-C even though it is vastly superior to it's USB type A predecessors?
I am not advocating directly to Tim, but damn, someone along the pipeline is really jacking things up.
Probably was still in estimating mode
Maybe. See the other thing is, I always set the percentage to show through the energy saver panel in System Preferences. So I never clicked on the battery percentage. I had no reason to.
10 hours are more than enough for me, as long as this number is reached reliably and doesn't drop unexpectedly. My user experience doesn't improve from a 27 percent smaller battery capacity, which under some best case scenario runs incredibly long, but can end up all over the place once you start to do something with the computer.
Up to 10 hours is based on staring at a wallpaper for up to 10 hours without letting the display go to sleep, but also at 25 percent brightness.
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This will be my last Apple product, after I return it next week. What a joke this company is now.
I'll be blunt. Apple needs to remove the name "Pro" from their product. The MacBook Pro is NOT a Professional computer. It is a very expensive commodity laptop, but offers nothing to the professional user. The professional user is NOT interested in how thin or light their computer is, but how POWERFUL it is. Professionals do things that regularly stress out their computer, be it rendering jobs, compiling code all day, virtualization, or other applications that take significant CPU and/or GPU power, AND consume a lot of memory. Professional systems also have the ability to expand memory and storage.
So far as I'm concerned, Apple's current line is junk. It's based on last generation's CPU design, outdated GPU, and focuses only on thinness and weight. They've sacrificed batter life and processing power so they can claim it's thin and light. Whoop de fricking doo!
I do believe that if Apple doesn't fix this issue, they are going to be relegated back to niche computing again, like they were for years before Jobs came and saved them from their sorry selves.
So far as I'm concerned, Apple's current line is junk. It's based on last generation's CPU design, outdated GPU, and focuses only on thinness and weight. They've sacrificed batter life and processing power so they can claim it's thin and light. Whoop de fricking doo!
I do believe that if Apple doesn't fix this issue, they are going to be relegated back to niche computing again, like they were for years before Jobs came and saved them from their sorry selves.
I think it came with beta 4. I actually filed a bug report because I was sure something got messed up with my config (I used some 3rd party battery indicator apps). I thought to myself this could be a good ruse to kill the talks on battery life. Feels wrong to be right...
That's not accurate. The fuel gauge is still there (battery percentage). What they took out was to see how many miles you have until empty. I think the car metaphor is both accurate and inaccurate to this. Everyone knows that the MPG that is provided is generally the maximum you can expect. On a MacBook Pro, you can expect up to 10 hours. That means you're likely going to get less.
What you don't see in cars is extreme performance requirements like you would in a computer. For instance, if you are running a process, the processor is going to spin up and try to take care of that task as quickly as possible. Then when it's done, you basically go back to not doing much at all. It would be like driving by flooring the vehicle, going as fast as it will allow for two minutes and then coasting the rest of the way. Each app and task is like a different sized hill and you don't know what's coming. So if you end up flooring the accelerator a lot, your battery life depletes. But you if you ACTUALLY using the computer like a car on the highway, you're going to get much better mileage.
The issue is in how you are using the laptop. If you're not stressing the processor and driving on flat ground in overdrive (so to speak) you'll get 9-10 hours. If you're encoding video, playing games, compiling code, working in Photoshop or hitting the GPU... you're going to suck up battery much faster.
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I assume you are joking but I personally see the ongoing clash of Apple's relentless focus on "thinner" vs. the battery being the major space demander in all Apple products eventually leading to that exact thought... and maybe action.
As crazy as that might seem, if they don't get over "thinner" soon, how long can it be before they look for more stuff to jettison? Jettison the battery out to an accessory add-on and it would create a LOT of opportunity for "thinner" and "lighter" AND an additional accessory sale spun with "now anyone can get any level of battery they want."
The time remaining estimate has never been accurate and something you could depend on.
If it's not something you can depend on, why have it? For decoration?
Seems a lot of people are ok with having a number that doesn't have a lot of meaning. Still, with it going away, I guess it's still worth a few tiny moans for those who were apparently never fussy about numbers and accuracy.
If it's not something you can depend on, why have it? For decoration?
Seems a lot of people are ok with having a number that doesn't have a lot of meaning. Still, with it going away, I guess it's still worth a few tiny moans for those who were apparently never fussy about numbers and accuracy.
"vastly superior" is a bit hyperbolic
I like the USB-C port. I am eager for most things to move to it.
But it is not "VASTLY SUPERIOR"
in fact: USB3.0 and 3.1 speeds are perfectly usable on USB-A. the USB speed / performance is not tied directly to a port.
I like USB-C because it is small, and reversible. But from the USB standards standpoint, that is the only real difference between USB-C and USB-A. Both handle USB-3.x standard fine
I almost never use it so maybe I'm injecting my own opinion but I appreciate at least having it as an option.. but if that's the case, why have Siri at all? It isn't anywhere near 100 percent on point
Or apple maps? Or Apple Music? Certainly they don't have 100 percent of music either (I don't use either of these) Or anywhere near 100 percent geographic accuracy without leveraging an absurd amount of info at their disposal like google
Do you time your cell phone to know this as well? Or do you simply freak out all day not knowing if it'll last another 15 minutes?
I get it was a stupid move by Apple, there's no denying it. However, people are up in arms like Apple removed the keyboard or something. The whole thing is still common sense. Look at your percentage and base it from there based off how heavily you're using the computer. Why is it people can't use their own judgement anymore and when asked to they act as if they've just been insulted?
UsbC as a charging protocol exclusively is less than thrilling you remove the safety feature of totaling your laptop with pets and kids and general negligence and add little. It's not like MagSafe wasn't reversible
I say this as someone with rMB and nTB , I like USBC in general tho
Of course, selling something based on a lie - "10 hours of battery life" - takes more than courage. It takes brass balls. Maybe Apple leadership is taking more cues from Jimmy Iovine? Somebody sure is betting their reputational capital won't take a hit.
****** move on apples part... They removed a truly useful feature to quiet down user criticism.
You have to hack it to force integrated only mode so at that point dGPU is just for arguments sake. "It just works"
So when I am downloading an update through the app store, the indicator for how long it will take should also go away?
So when I am upgrading my OS, the time indicator for how long its going to take to fully update should also go away?
Because under Apple's rationale, the dynamic process of downloading and installing software is such that the time estimate fluctuates too much that it isnt accurate.