Not the same. The percentage is like the fuel gauge. They are basically removing the little bit in the dash that tells you how many more miles/kms you can go before needing to stop for fuel again. Those things are never accurate. Put your foot down and they're completely wrong most of the time.
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macOS Sierra 10.12.2 Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator
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Not the same. The percentage is like the fuel gauge. They are basically removing the little bit in the dash that tells you how many more miles/kms you can go before needing to stop for fuel again. Those things are never accurate. Put your foot down and they're completely wrong most of the time.
When was the last time Apple removed something then put it back? Not saying it has never happened, can't remember, but it's not usual.
its accuracy is almost immaterial to the issue at hand.
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You're twisting what he said to try to weaken it. I suspect what he meant was to keep the utility of the present in a pro machine rather than fully abandoning it. The MBpro is not really "thinner & lighter" if these pros have to carry a dock or other device to make it connectable with the rest of their hardware (because the rest of the hardware can't connect directly to USB3C).
Personally, I see nothing wrong with putting up to multiple USB3C/Tbolt 3 ports on this new MBpro. But 1-2 ports directly connectable to present time accessories would not hurt anything... and keep the hidden "thicker & heavier" + added cost burden of some kind of accessory out of pro laptop bags.
Nobody argues for solely clinging to the present or the past. But it's easy to argue for bridges from the present to the future. And if we do support "thinner & lighter" thinking, it appears it's time for that to evolve into "thinner & lighter" OVERALL if a pro machine pretty much begs for some other hardware to be tossed in the bag to make it compatible with the present world. We can still get to the all USB3C/Tbolt 3 future without having so many hardware hassles in the time between now and then.
Wow. Just wow. Does Apple really think this is a reasonable solution to gimping the battery on the MacBook "Pro"? If they wanted to be honest, they should have simply indicated the time remaining is an estimate based on past usage. It WAS a useful feature to know generally how much time was left.
I really miss the extra layer of safety AND being able to see if my computer was charging or not.
It's a downward trend of removing features that some people value. If it's benign why bother? Only pull malignant things, this has NEVER been a point of contention until the touchbar longevity PR nightmare.
It's not as if removing a (for arguments sake) completely inaccurate estimate makes customers happy. I open my laptop at 3 it's dead by 6. That's 3 hours no matter how you dice it up or spin it
The issue here is that there are alot of people with new MBP who believe that the indicator removal is tied to the fact that many users with these new MBPs are struggling to get to the rated "up to 10hrs" of usage under any circumstances.
You use them as a guide for your drive time until you have to fill up on gas.
I'm kinda surprised usbC with a light indicator still doesn't exist as far as I can tell.
I have a lightning cable that transitions from orange charging to green charged from mono price with a nice sturdy aluminum housing. It's fantastic. My favorite cable. The best. Yugggeee. Believe it.
And MFI certified too
In my car, the speed indicator changes all the time, so it does not give me any clue about the time at which I will arrive at. It should obviously be removed!!!
Same for the fuel consumption indicator. If I use it to predict when I should refuel, I may end up with an empty tank. Remove that too!!!
Same for the fuel consumption indicator. If I use it to predict when I should refuel, I may end up with an empty tank. Remove that too!!!
I have. Yes, I know it's a variable that changes depending on load, But I use that "time remaining" number to try and estimate if what I'm currently doing on my computer gives me enough battery life to complete, or I need to change my current behaviour.
So for example, if I sit down and start reading some websites and see "10 hours left" i'm going to continue and not worry.
But if I fire up Lightroom and suddenly that battery life is showing under current load 1.5 hours left, I can use that estimate to know if I need to change my power settings to extend it, or that if I need battery to last, cut back on what activities i'm currently doing.
I found on my MacBook Air that this was a pretty accurate way of doing using it. Same with my Surface Pro 2.
Do I think that the number is completely accurate? no. I'm not that delusional. But to claim that it's not useful metric is very narrow minded.
Jobs used to say he didn't do market surveys or test groups because people don't know what they are missing out on or want until they (apple) delivers it. Apple tapped into creating products that addressed abstract pain points. That used to feel true.
Now people don't know what they are missing out on or how good it is, until those features are stripped.
Because with the battery time remaining number, you never know if what's displayed is accurate. In fact, for me, I can be fairly certain it is inaccurate.
If I ask Siri a question and in the case the reply doesn't make sense because my question was not interpreted correctly, usually I'll know the answer doesn't make sense. It's not like I'm asking Siri for the value of pi to 50 digits and I only know the first 40, and knowing those last ten are critical.
With Apple Music, I haven't had a problem - though if I were to search for Sneaker Pimps and instead it brought up a playlist of NWA, I'd likely know the "answer" is wrong. Ditto with Maps.
My point is if you can count on the battery time remaining number being wrong, why have it? Maybe for some who are not fussy, it's a "feel good" indicator of sorts.
I got a better idea.
In Apple maps, they should completely remove the time estimate until arrival. Because you know, theres a thing called traffic. And it is very dynamic and unpredictable, so Apple needs to remove it from the app because you cannot predict future traffic conditions, and it does not want the app to confuse people as to whether or not they will actually ever arrive to their destination on "time".
But they removed the estimate from my 2014 too. Tim Cook really needs to ****ing go and **** himself. Put Scott Forstall as CEO, the guy understood Steve