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Meh, give it a few months and Apple will have the software fully optimised for our needs. Battery life for daaaaaaaaaaays
 
Apple should've replaced it with Siri's witty remarks.

"It only goes down."
"You just checked 5 minutes ago."
"Plug it in already and stop worrying."

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Bwahahahahahaha :D

This is the most funny and embarrassing thing Apple has made this year so far (we still have two weeks remaining in 2016)

My old MacBook Pro is gonna stay for longer than I expected, and I think I'm heading to the Dell next year...
 
So basically the way we fix our battery life issue is to not tell you your battery life so you won't think you have an issue.
Sweet!

Read the article again. Estimates of how long battery will last is not accurate. You can measure this yourself if need be.

Estimates of how much battery is left is accurate and available information.
 
The irony of these two posts.....

To be fair, we're talking about two very different things.

Not "I don't like this so it should be removed/stopped/finished"

I'm not on about removing anything or changing anything - just that IMHO this will create less reports as I highly doubt anyone is genuinely timing how long their battery lasts.

Though I should have said "90%" of people won't be, rather than 'no one' there will always be a percentage of people who do something.
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Sorry, which workstation operating system does Apple produce again?

Oh chuckle chuckle, the one that actual professionals (eg not you) use on a daily basis to make tens of thousands of pounds. Not using Chrome OS or Android are they.
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No, it wasn't so inaccurate, it wasn't to the second accurate but was a pretty good indicator and has been for years. Whereas % full means absolutely nothing time wise.

But it sort of does - at 10% it means "go and find a charging point" time wise...
 
If it reports an estimate that turns out to be incorrect, people complain. If they remove the inaccurate estimate, people complain. This site should be renamed to MacComplaints.
How did some people ever manage to drive a car with an old fashioned fuel gauge and not run out of fuel every week?
 
So basically the way we fix our battery life issue is to not tell you your battery life so you won't think you have an issue.
Sweet!

So.... this will now prevent the computer from shutting down in 3 hours?

Apple has mastered the shell shuffle. Masters of illusion.

Guess what Apple... if my computer dies after only 3 hours of use, I'm still going to know that the battery didn't last 10 hours.

Blaming poor battery life on background processes is also a joke. Ummm..... guess what Apple.... you wrote the operating system too.... so the blame still falls on you.

I think Apple's best move here would be to move to Windows based systems. Then they can pass the buck all day long and hide behind claims that they have no control over how Windows affects our experience with Apple computers.

If they want to pass the buck, they need to get behind someone else to blame.
 
Oh no we lose the 100% indicator? I know it's not accurate but it gives us a number which I like.

I hope this doesn't mean they are going to remove on the iPhone too.
 
Never use the battery prediction feature on OS X or Windows as it`s fundamentally flawed, equally Apple`s timing to depreciate the feature could not be worse given the rising tide of users not perceiving they are getting adequate battery runtime from their new 2016 MBP`s

Apple would have been far smarter to come up with a more accurate algorithm, rather than be seen to be retreating in the face of criticism, then again depreciating the battery capacity of many users primary workhorse was an equally poor decision. If anything the timing is just off.

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If it reports an estimate that turns out to be incorrect, people complain. If they remove the inaccurate estimate, people complain. This site should be renamed to MacComplaints.
How did some people ever manage to drive a car with an old fashioned fuel gauge and not run out of fuel every week?
yeah who needs a fuel gauge? the original beetle just had a dipstick for the gas
 
agree to disagree, I think this is exactly whats happening. Battery estimate feature didn't just come out,

or someone with a 2012 onward retina performing better battery wise assuming it isn't a shot battery, vs an impacted touchbar model, one would expect better if not at the very least parity on longevity
Both are happening. Some users are getting less battery life doing apparently equivalent tasks. Others are seeing the post and saying "I got less than 10 arbitrary hours too!"

The fallacy of the first case is that the new machines will run the same process differently. Its not unusual to see some processes not yet optimized for the latest hardware and OS. Some processes may be using more energy than they do on older systems. Others may be more efficient under low to moderate use, and probably get more work done in the same time. Yet others might be revealed as power hogs masked by slower processors using bigger batteries.

But they also have substantial resource reserves and a smaller battery. It just possible, under max load they drain the battery faster. I'm kind of skeptical here as most the chips are lower wattage. That screen goes to ~500 nits though. Maybe people need to start managing that.

The reactions are inflated. It will all sort itself out. There also are credible reports of users getting 12-15 hours working on documents, checking email, occasionally checking social media, listening to music; a typical work day for many.
 
Before everyone jumps in and cries foul, it's very possible that there is a bug in the gas gauge code so they hide the gauge for now as a temporary fix until they find the long term solution to display the battery life accurately.
 
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If somebody knows any trick, or Terminal command, app, whatever to check remaining battery life, I will be thankful. Otherwise, probably I'll stay on 10.12.1 forever... Glad I kept my 10.12.1 downloaded on my hard drive.
I always liked being able to look and see what was 'estimated' if I needed to adjust what I was doing to make the battery last longer I would. Of course different applications effected drain. From what I noticed this was never removed in the beta versions, which really makes this more dubious on Apples part.
It went walkabout several seeds before today's release.
 
No...freaking...way

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The battery on mine lasts less than 3 hours sitting on the desktop, no programs running. If this update doesn't fix that, it's going back to the store tonight.
Please let us know what happens after you do your update. I'm considering getting the MBP but the battery and graphics issues are making me very nervous. I've been waiting to see if Apple fixes these. Thanks in advance.
 
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If it reports an estimate that turns out to be incorrect, people complain. If they remove the inaccurate estimate, people complain. This site should be renamed to MacComplaints.
How did some people ever manage to drive a car with an old fashioned fuel gauge and not run out of fuel every week?

Using your car analogy....

Suppose that Lexus sold you a car with claims that it would go 500 miles on a tank of gas.

You buy the car because it's important for you to be able to go at least 400 miles between gas stations on the route you regularly take between two destinations.

But after buying the car at a premium price, you find out that the car can only travel 150 miles on a tank of gas.

I think most people would complain.

Apple's response is to deactivate the digital readout on the dashboard that estimates how many miles you can still travel on the gas remaining in the tank.

But, I can assure you that if Lexus pulled the same trick, you'd still complain because you would still run out of gas after 150 miles regardless of whether the digital readout was activated or not.

But fortunately, you'd be 250 miles short of reaching the next gas station. So Lexus could avoid hearing from you until you walked a while.

Remember that people buy these laptops based on portable use. It's very likely that some people will not be near an outlet every 3 hours and be able to wait for it to charge.
 
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