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So basically desktop widgets, safari tweaks and new screen savers.. so underwhelming
If you were used to the same on a phone or tablet, widgets might excite you, but not like the MacOS really needs a bunch of mini-apps (widgets) to be showing all the time. Even with a laptop we played this widget game previously and it's not that big a draw, just uses up desktop space instead of resizable windows.

Safari keeps getting more efficient with displaying multiple web pages with faster graphics, on my M1 based Macs its now doing speedometer 2.1 at 439 which is a lot faster then Crome ever worked. Yes there are still some graphics codec support I like to see it do such as AV1 which is still experimental.

The screen savers added a motion types like seen on ATV4K, but most here use a Mac then put it to sleep without much of a screen saver needed.

Underneath is where MacOS keeps improving but not necessary benefiting intel Macs so much. I noticed overall speed improvement a lot going from Monterey to Ventura, now that we have Sonoma it more like things like graphics with MetalFX combined with dev game porting Toolkit supporting DirectX version 12 shows promise. Background tasks such as search keeps getting better. Wish for some of the Apple Apps to be modernized as everyone feels.

After several months of using on two AS Macs this release looks very solid for once based on RC2.
 
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I still believe there was no good reason to drop support for 32-bit apps. I have Steam games, video editing software etc. that functioned before but don't now. It's so stupid.
I am sure Apple could do an about-face if they wanted to. They can obviously write an Intel-to-ARM translation layer. It's purely a business decision, and it's despicable. I hope Tim Cook's successor stops hammering customers and actually allows Apple to live up to the "empowering users" mantra they inherited from decades past.
 
The line under Accessibility will be updated to reflect only certain MFi hearing devices will be supported when it goes Live, and those all support Bidirectional streaming. The ones with asterisks are the only MFi devices Apple has chosen to support in macOS Sonoma. If your HA doesn't have an asterisk, then oh well. Same for all Cochlear Implant users. Hearing Device list
 
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As someone who is critical of the need for yearly major releases, I cannot wait to upgrade to Sonoma!

My biggest gripe with yearly updates has been that Apple tweaks so much under the hood for some architectural purpose that a lot stuff breaks. Apple silicon is rolling pretty good right now. As such there's not much need for Apple to make massive structural overhauls & there's not much to change for enterprise solutions. So Sonoma should be an improvement on stability & performance from Ventura.
 
I really wish Apple would stop with the yearly OSX releases. Its exhausting wondering if your apps are all going to be compatible and in the end I just end up waiting several months until I know everything works and there won't be an app I need that hasn't been updated or crashes regularly.

Just refine what we have and go on a two year cycle of upgrades. Then they will seem more significant.
I totally agree. Apple has fallen into the Android and Windows more is better open pit. Less performance producing software will always beat bloated piles of garbage software. Two years with needed updates a good starting point.
 
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So we had widgets in 2005….Apple said “no this is dumb” and got rid of them…..now in 2023 widgets are a new thing….again…oook
OR… they became useful instead of a near useless calendar or weather widget. This came under Tim Cook's leadership remember. As usual, things improve and get reinvented because of the App Store.
 
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If you were used to the same on a phone or tablet, widgets might excite you, but not like the MacOS really needs a bunch of mini-apps (widgets) to be showing all the time. Even with a laptop we played this widget game previously and it's not that big a draw, just uses up desktop space instead of resizable windows.
I think it’ll be more useful than the old screen and definitely better than that horrible notifications bar they use on the current system.
 
I am sure Apple could do an about-face if they wanted to. They can obviously write an Intel-to-ARM translation layer. It's purely a business decision, and it's despicable. I hope Tim Cook's successor stops hammering customers and actually allows Apple to live up to the "empowering users" mantra they inherited from decades past.
Yep... My iMac Pro sits on Mojave to this day for this reason. I've got a number of 32-bit programs I want to use, and especially with all the nonsense Apple keeps putting in recent MacOS releases? I don't feel like I'm missing much.

I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. I can still run 32-bit apps just fine in the very latest Windows release, despite Microsoft moving their OS to 64-bit quite a while ago. But when Apple went all 64-bit, a lot of game developers and writers of more "niche" apps and utilities such as music/MIDI related apps just said, "Nope! Sorry... No interest in going back and rewriting that for 64-bit. We're done with that." And who can blame them, given the relatively small number of sales they got in the first place?
 
I'll be sorely tempted to upgrade, but I will have to let my work computer sit with Ventura until I can be sure there are no issues with my mission critical apps like Illustrator and InDesign -- as well as the Google Drive client which we use to sync files.

Anyone on the betas using any of that software? Curious to hear how it's going. Thanks!

I'm NOT on the betas, but I've been following the beta tester threads and it seems like a few of them are having a couple very frustrating issues while most of them seem to be having a pretty good, smooth experience with the recent Sonoma betas.

So, like you I am very much tempted to load Sonoma on my personal M2 MBA and leave the work computer on Ventura for a couple more months.
 
I've found it remarkably stable and like most of the changes I've found. I am hoping for a quick update to Adobe Lightroom Classic is when I try to use the PRINT module it not only does a hard crash, but the only way to get back into LR is to startup after resetting all of your personalizations!! Pain in the rear to be sure!! Interestingly, this is the only issue I've had with LR (going to the PRINT module) ... or any other app that I use!!

Ken
 
Will be updating my Macs soon. Desktop widgets will be nice to have along with the new screensavers and safari profiles. Sad to see that my 2017 27" iMac cannot be updated
 
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My Studio Display stopped working after a beta driver update, though, 4-5 days now. I'm now firmly convinced that it's the worst thing Apple has released since the butterfly keyboard, and anyone interested should walk right past it to the Samsung.
I always hate the idea of loading an OS to a display. Gone are the days of just simple plug and play display that just works. Don’t get me wrong, many selling today still largely function that way, but this studio display starts a terrible trend in the monitor industry to further incentivise planned obsolescence.
To the Apple engineers reading this: stand up to your bosses and work for the betterment of everyone, not your CEO's stock price.
By standing up, you mean they resign and form a new company/find a new job?
Thats the strongest message engineers can send to Apple.
I'm going to consider downgrading to Mojave if this keeps up.
It will keep up. You should plan on downgrading now.
 
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the "underwhelming" features could (most of the time) be implemented as standalone apps or updates (feature packs?) untethered from the OS upgrade cycle.

They could, but that would significantly increase QA complexity, because that feature pack now needs to be tested against multiple OSes, and newer OSes need to either stop supporting the feature pack, or be held back by continuing to be compatible. And to what end, exactly?

To the Apple engineers reading this: stand up to your bosses and work for the betterment of everyone, not your CEO's stock price.

Stand up against what exactly?

I'm going to consider downgrading to Mojave if this keeps up.

Enjoy?
 
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